Re: [XviD-devel] Adaptive quantisation

[Dirk Knop <dknop@xxxxxxx>]

Hi,

Michael Militzer wrote:

> > I don't  know if doom9 uses  to review open source  projects. But i've
> > never  seen reviews using  experimental code.  Koepi's builds  are cvs
> > snapshots + the  koepi's decision to include square me  or ... i would
> > have never used that to test a codec. I'm not criticizing koepi, I'm
> >    
> criticizing doom9's choice.
>
> you're both right. The daily binaries including untested experimental code
> are dangerous (for Joe User). I've already written doom9 about this (and
> because I liked to know what the problem really was). What is a bit
> disappointing for me is that doom9 didn't wrote me at all that he had any
> problems with the comparison. We were in contact when he did his last
> comparisons and recently we had some (more or less unimportant) talk about
> "when will b-frames be ready etc.". I would have advised him to simply used
> an older build...
Hey, I really tried my best. For all other people this code works, only 
now we got aware that there's something wrong with the luma-code, which 
explains some effects which could be seen.
Btw., the comparison is about the progress the codecs made, and about 
that what the users get to download from the net. So if you advise him 
to use an older build, this wouldn't be the real case somehow.

> > Perhaps  the solution  is koepi  proposes a  stable -  use  for review
> > binary... don't know.
> >    
>
> yeah, but we have no real stable version yet. I'd say we should do a lot of
> testing and first release when b-frames are ready (and maybe qpel also).
> This should improve the current situation a lot.
>  
Everyone should be aware that xvid is alpha (I clearly state that with 
"my" binaries.).

Btw., I'm reencoding matrix with the "old" luma code ATM and from what I 
can see in the first pass, the results (actual frame sizes) look way 
better. Have to see the first pass size afterwoods though and the visual 
quality of the encoded movie. I guess this really was the error.

So please, let's stop bitching at the persons who dare to release 
binaries and let's see how to prevent to get unreviewed code into CVS.

Best regards,
Koepi