From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Wed Nov 3 16:53:59 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A821126D83 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:53:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30391153EF; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:59:01 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from scamper.lut.ac.uk (scamper.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.219]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71370153DC for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:58:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from [158.125.1.221] (helo=magic.lut.ac.uk) by scamper.lut.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CPNSB-00049F-5x for xvid-devel@xvid.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:53:43 +0000 Received: from apache by magic.lut.ac.uk with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CPNSA-0008JJ-VQ for xvid-devel@xvid.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:53:42 +0000 Received: from nervous-energy.lut.ac.uk (nervous-energy.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.114]) by student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk (IMP) with HTTP for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:53:42 +0000 Message-ID: <1099497222.4188ff06e667a@student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:53:42 +0000 From: Tom Jacobs To: xvid-devel@xvid.org References: <1098706858.417cefaa305fa@student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <1098706858.417cefaa305fa@student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 158.125.1.114 X-Scan-Signature: 6c534765df601ba4d0e3a26d153e2019 Subject: [XviD-devel] input format X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org hi ive got a little problem with testing my threaded encoder. i think it is probable down to the raw images that i am paasing in. im not really sure how to process *.yuv *.ppm and *.qcif files. i have a variety of these both in single file or one per frame. what parameters do i use to set these as an input? can i have the seperate files as an input or do i need to combine them in someway. ive had various sucess doing this with the 'convert' tool. when i have tried to play my outputed m4v files in mplayer the colour is wrong and the picture is not right either. you can tell the image but its got a constant 'not rightness' to it, this is the same for both my encoder and the xvidcore any help would be greatful thanks Tom _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Wed Nov 3 19:19:43 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CA9126D83 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:19:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9534514157; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:24:51 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from nil.math.uni-bonn.de (mail.math.uni-bonn.de [131.220.120.11]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1AF9CFA for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:24:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from login.math.uni-bonn.de (login.math.uni-bonn.de [131.220.120.13]) by nil.math.uni-bonn.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009C954B11 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:22:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:19:35 +0100 (CET) From: Christoph Lampert To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] input format In-Reply-To: <1099497222.4188ff06e667a@student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk> Message-ID: References: <1098706858.417cefaa305fa@student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk> <1099497222.4188ff06e667a@student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org xvid_encraw takes either "YUV within PGM" or "raw YUV" as input, you can specify which to use by the "-type" command line parameter. 0=yuv, 1=pgm raw YUV does't have information on frame size in them, you have to know it in advance. For "YUV within PGM" each frame has a short header with the framesize (and some other data) in it. raw PGM is more or less a homebrewn format, you can create files yourself e.g. with mplayer's pgm output (just 'cat' all output PGM into one big file), or with ffmpeg. raw YUV is more common for download from the internet, e.g. ".qcif" are raw YUV files of the fixed size 176x144 and ".cif" are 352x288 (so qcif is one _q_uarter the pixels of cif). So, if you have a .qcif file, using xvid_encraw -type 0 -w 176 -h 144 -i inputfile.qcif -o outputfile.m4v should give you useful operation, and output like xvid_encraw - raw mpeg4 bitstream encoder written by Christoph Lampert 2002-2003 0: key=2, time= 5, len= 8006 | type=I, quant= 2, len= 8006 1: key=0, time= 10, len= 507 | type=P, quant= 2, len= 507 2: key=0, time= 9, len= 410 | type=P, quant= 2, len= 410 3: key=0, time= 8, len= 344 | type=P, quant= 2, len= 344 4: key=0, time= 8, len= 318 | type=P, quant= 2, len= 318 ... 869: key=0, time= 8, len= 284 | type=P, quant= 2, len= 284 -1: key=0, time= 0, len= -5 Tot: enctime(ms) =8707.51, length(bytes) = 1008509 Avg: enctime(ms) = 10.01, fps = 99.91, length(bytes) = 1159 gruel On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Tom Jacobs wrote: > ive got a little problem with testing my threaded encoder. i think it is > probable down to the raw images that i am paasing in. im not really sure > how to process *.yuv *.ppm and *.qcif files. i have a variety of these both > in single file or one per frame. what parameters do i use to set these as an > input? can i have the seperate files as an input or do i need to combine > them in someway. ive had various sucess doing this with the 'convert' tool. > when i have tried to play my outputed m4v files in mplayer the colour is > wrong and the picture is not right either. you can tell the image but its > got a constant 'not rightness' to it, this is the same for both my encoder > and the xvidcore > > any help would be greatful > > thanks > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > XviD-devel mailing list > XviD-devel@xvid.org > http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel > _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Thu Nov 4 03:42:03 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de 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--===============1306389639==-- From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Thu Nov 4 14:33:58 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D4E126D83 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:33:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CFA1591D; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:39:08 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from scamper.lut.ac.uk (scamper.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.219]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945C714287 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:39:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [158.125.1.221] (helo=magic.lut.ac.uk) by scamper.lut.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CPhkJ-000197-Mz for xvid-devel@xvid.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2004 13:33:48 +0000 Received: from apache by magic.lut.ac.uk with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CPhkJ-0001bf-Gx for xvid-devel@xvid.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2004 13:33:47 +0000 Received: from nervous-energy.lut.ac.uk (nervous-energy.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.114]) by student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:33:47 +0000 Message-ID: <1099575227.418a2fbb793b0@student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:33:47 +0000 From: Tom Jacobs To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] input format References: <1098706858.417cefaa305fa@student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk> <1099497222.4188ff06e667a@student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 158.125.1.114 X-Scan-Signature: 42f37af654fdde972def8f7fc00b0a1e X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org thx gruel i think i have got the cif files sorted now and worked out how i can play them on mplayer with the -rawvideo switch to check they are correct one other thing.... i think this has changed in the newer version but when i do a 2pass encode, should i set -mv to 1 with all the normal parameters and then run it with the same parameters but with -mv set to 2? can i set -m to 0 in the first pass? is a hint file simple created in the currect folder and read back in on the 2nd pass? just one more quick question is there anyway of telling from my code what version it is? i know it isnt the newest but it was given to be already vectorised to i had to use it thanks Tom Quoting Christoph Lampert : > > xvid_encraw takes either "YUV within PGM" or "raw YUV" as input, you can > specify which to use by the "-type" command line parameter. 0=yuv, 1=pgm > > raw YUV does't have information on frame size in them, you have to know > it > in advance. For "YUV within PGM" each frame has a short header with > the framesize (and some other data) in it. > > raw PGM is more or less a homebrewn format, you can create files yourself > e.g. with mplayer's pgm output (just 'cat' all output PGM into one big > file), or with ffmpeg. > > raw YUV is more common for download from the internet, e.g. ".qcif" are > raw YUV files of the fixed size 176x144 and ".cif" are 352x288 (so qcif > is > one _q_uarter the pixels of cif). > > So, if you have a .qcif file, using > > xvid_encraw -type 0 -w 176 -h 144 -i inputfile.qcif -o outputfile.m4v > > should give you useful operation, and output like > > > xvid_encraw - raw mpeg4 bitstream encoder written by Christoph Lampert > 2002-2003 > > 0: key=2, time= 5, len= 8006 | type=I, quant= 2, len= > 8006 > 1: key=0, time= 10, len= 507 | type=P, quant= 2, len= > 507 > 2: key=0, time= 9, len= 410 | type=P, quant= 2, len= > 410 > 3: key=0, time= 8, len= 344 | type=P, quant= 2, len= > 344 > 4: key=0, time= 8, len= 318 | type=P, quant= 2, len= > 318 > ... > 869: key=0, time= 8, len= 284 | type=P, quant= 2, len= > 284 > -1: key=0, time= 0, len= -5 > Tot: enctime(ms) =8707.51, length(bytes) = 1008509 > Avg: enctime(ms) = 10.01, fps = 99.91, length(bytes) = 1159 > > > gruel > > > > On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Tom Jacobs wrote: > > ive got a little problem with testing my threaded encoder. i think it > is > > probable down to the raw images that i am paasing in. im not really > sure > > how to process *.yuv *.ppm and *.qcif files. i have a variety of these > both > > in single file or one per frame. what parameters do i use to set these > as an > > input? can i have the seperate files as an input or do i need to > combine > > them in someway. ive had various sucess doing this with the 'convert' > tool. > > when i have tried to play my outputed m4v files in mplayer the colour > is > > wrong and the picture is not right either. you can tell the image but > its > > got a constant 'not rightness' to it, this is the same for both my > encoder > > and the xvidcore > > > > any help would be greatful > > > > thanks > > > > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > > XviD-devel mailing list > > XviD-devel@xvid.org > > http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > XviD-devel mailing list > XviD-devel@xvid.org > http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel > _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Thu Nov 4 15:25:15 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5CA126D83 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:25:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9F1148DE; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:30:25 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from nil.math.uni-bonn.de (mail.math.uni-bonn.de [131.220.120.11]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A5813BAB for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:30:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from login.math.uni-bonn.de (login.math.uni-bonn.de [131.220.120.13]) by nil.math.uni-bonn.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0756251F4D for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:27:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:25:07 +0100 (CET) From: Christoph Lampert To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] input format In-Reply-To: <1099575227.418a2fbb793b0@student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk> Message-ID: References: <1098706858.417cefaa305fa@student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk> <1099497222.4188ff06e667a@student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk> <1099575227.418a2fbb793b0@student-webmail.lboro.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Tom Jacobs wrote: > > i think this has changed in the newer version but when i do a 2pass encode, > should i set -mv to 1 with all the normal parameters and then run it with > the same parameters but with -mv set to 2? can i set -m to 0 in the first > pass? is a hint file simple created in the currect folder and read back in > on the 2nd pass? What's this "-mv" ? With the xvid_encraw I have, you use "-pass1 filename" to write a firstpass logfile called "filename", and "-pass2 filename" to use it in second pass. The filename must be the same, of course. I don't remember how this was in the old versions, that was ages ago. You don't have to create/safe output in first pass, that isn't reused. > just one more quick question is there anyway of telling from my code > what version it is? i know it isnt the newest but it was given to be > already vectorised to i had to use it Version of which? Of XviD? If it's not too old, there should be a versioning in the beginning of xvid.h include, like #define XVID_VERSION XVID_MAKE_VERSION(1,1,-127) #define XVID_API XVID_MAKE_API(4, 1) #define XVID_BS_VERSION 36 in the version I have. When you call the library, it should also return the version in xvid_gbl_info_t (also see xvid.h for this). However, if your library version is too old, you might have to search the ChangeLog or other files to find a date/version. gruel _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Mon Nov 8 23:30:44 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA70126D82 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:30:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2ED154FA; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:35:59 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from xvid.org (200-138-106-107.ctame7044.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br [200.138.106.107]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with SMTP id A2A4F153EF for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:35:56 +0100 (CET) From: ed.gomez@free.fr To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:31:01 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="84668054" Message-Id: <20041108223556.A2A4F153EF@edu.bnhof.de> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.4 Subject: [XviD-devel] robos! X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org --84668054 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Policia SP --84668054 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel --84668054-- From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Wed Nov 10 09:18:38 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2E4126D83 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:18:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92746153D0; Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:23:57 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from www.vuetec.com (195-226-141-186.bizdsl.guernsey.net [195.226.141.186]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4410314C37 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:23:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from vermivorous.cyp-internal.vuetec.com ([82.145.240.30]) by www.vuetec.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id iAA8A9P32061 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:10:19 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:17:43 +0200 To: xvid-devel@xvid.org From: "Stuart Scott" Organization: VueTec Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera M2/7.51 (Linux, build 689) Subject: [XviD-devel] java xvid decoder X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org There have been a number of bug fixes to the java xvid decoder. Thanks Mr D :-) It can be downloaded from the same place: http://monitor.vuetec.com/sscott/xvid.tar.bz2 Stu... _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Thu Nov 11 19:11:36 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DBA126D83 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:11:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A9215986; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:16:56 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F87E15979 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:16:52 +0100 (CET) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so356181rne for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:11:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Zlec07Vl7fjJ+vcukRDVy4C/Fgv+U/ACsGbqzllAkIkQFHawALpYkLeEh1baAZLwPWwv0gZiN2OpqSzx+2psYtyNWD/IbMhYeOC/6PAkmO5DVmRzVzDThTt6Eds6yFenWcB5g/9Mtei8fWvnKRElqpr7s7f5IUY2hZSgeBDPnfE= Received: by 10.38.70.35 with SMTP id s35mr413480rna; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.83.39 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:11:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7e4a925c041111101143f36640@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:11:21 -0800 From: Robert Rubin To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [XviD-devel] I would like to help. X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: Robert Rubin , xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org I have an incredible amount of free time and I would like to make graphics for any future devoloped projects for Xvid. If you would like to take this offer up just reply to this message Thank you, Robert _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Thu Nov 11 19:34:45 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51222126D83 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:34:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9808D14612; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:40:09 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from smartmx-04.inode.at (smartmx-04.inode.at [213.229.60.36]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EC214287 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:40:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [62.99.252.218] (port=63968 helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smartmx-04.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CSJmD-0002Ee-FD; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:34:33 +0100 Message-ID: <4193B0B0.5070604@x-ray.at> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:34:24 +0100 From: Reini Urban User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; de-AT; rv:1.8a4) Gecko/20040927 X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Rubin , xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] I would like to help. References: <7e4a925c041111101143f36640@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7e4a925c041111101143f36640@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Robert Rubin schrieb: > I have an incredible amount of free time and I would like to make > graphics for any future devoloped projects for Xvid. > > If you would like to take this offer up just reply to this message The vfw GUI needs some works. -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Thu Nov 11 20:59:20 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9E9126D83 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:59:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402511591D; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:04:44 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from nil.math.uni-bonn.de (mail.math.uni-bonn.de [131.220.120.11]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85902153FF for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:04:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from login.math.uni-bonn.de (login.math.uni-bonn.de [131.220.120.13]) by nil.math.uni-bonn.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A249F51FFA; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:02:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:59:13 +0100 (CET) From: Christoph Lampert To: Robert Rubin , xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] I would like to help. In-Reply-To: <7e4a925c041111101143f36640@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <7e4a925c041111101143f36640@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Robert Rubin wrote: > I have an incredible amount of free time and I would like to make > graphics for any future devoloped projects for Xvid. > > If you would like to take this offer up just reply to this message Sure, your help is appreciated. What's your background, what are your skills? Do you have anything specific in mind that you would like to help improve? gruel _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Thu Nov 11 22:04:16 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2B2126D83 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:04:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF41514984; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:09:40 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from edgomez.kicks-ass.org (edgomez.kicks-ass.org [82.225.208.184]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7502A14607 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:09:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from edy by edgomez.kicks-ass.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CSM71-0006AK-1i for xvid-devel@xvid.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:04:11 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:04:11 +0100 From: Edouard Gomez To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] java xvid decoder Message-ID: <20041111210410.GB5513@edgomez.dyndns.org> Mail-Followup-To: Edouard Gomez , xvid-devel@xvid.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Stuart Scott (stuart@vuetec.com) wrote: > > There have been a number of bug fixes to the java xvid decoder. Thanks Mr > D :-) It can be downloaded from the same place: > > http://monitor.vuetec.com/sscott/xvid.tar.bz2 Builds fine here. Any precise ChangeLog ? -- Edouard Gomez _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Thu Nov 11 23:55:57 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126D1126D83 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:55:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFDB9CD7; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:01:21 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix, from userid 30) id 0AA499CAA; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:01:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from pD953939D.dip.t-dialin.net (pD953939D.dip.t-dialin.net [217.83.147.157]) by www.xvid.org (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:01:18 +0100 Message-ID: <1100214078.4193ef3ed35e0@www.xvid.org> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:01:18 +0100 From: Michael Militzer To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] I would like to help. References: <7e4a925c041111101143f36640@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 217.83.147.157 X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Quoting Christoph Lampert : > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Robert Rubin wrote: > > > I have an incredible amount of free time and I would like to make > > graphics for any future devoloped projects for Xvid. > > > > If you would like to take this offer up just reply to this message > > Sure, your help is appreciated. > > What's your background, what are your skills? Do you have anything > specific in mind that you would like to help improve? yep, I back this up. We could need a good graphics designer with an incredible amount of free time ;-) Are there any examples of your artwork available somewhere on the net? Michael _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Fri Nov 12 09:02:13 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0581A126D83 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:02:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FBF14C37; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:07:37 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from www.vuetec.com (195-226-141-186.bizdsl.guernsey.net [195.226.141.186]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3513A1497C for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:07:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from vermivorous.cyp-internal.vuetec.com ([82.145.240.30]) by www.vuetec.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id iAC7sAP19678 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:54:10 GMT To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] java xvid decoder References: <20041111210410.GB5513@edgomez.dyndns.org> Message-ID: From: "Stuart Scott" Organization: VueTec Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:01:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20041111210410.GB5513@edgomez.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.51 (Linux, build 689) X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org There is now ;-) Stu... On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:04:11 +0100, Edouard Gomez wrote: > Stuart Scott (stuart@vuetec.com) wrote: >> >> There have been a number of bug fixes to the java xvid decoder. Thanks >> Mr >> D :-) It can be downloaded from the same place: >> >> http://monitor.vuetec.com/sscott/xvid.tar.bz2 > > Builds fine here. > > Any precise ChangeLog ? > _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Fri Nov 12 14:03:26 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0FB126D83 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:03:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944CE153EA; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:08:47 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from smartmx-07.inode.at (smartmx-07.inode.at [213.229.60.39]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34D11592A for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:01:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [62.99.252.218] (port=61837 helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smartmx-07.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CSa2A-0001G1-FF for xvid-devel@xvid.org; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:56:06 +0100 Message-ID: <4194A4E6.3080806@x-ray.at> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:56:22 +0100 From: Reini Urban User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; de-AT; rv:1.8a4) Gecko/20040927 X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: [XviD-devel] I would like to help.] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080308050600020603070400" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:07:17 +0100 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.4 X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080308050600020603070400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [mailed to me personally] -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ --------------080308050600020603070400 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re: [XviD-devel] I would like to help." 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X-Account-Key: account1 Return-path: Delivery-date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:40:59 +0100 Received: from [213.229.60.34] (helo=smartmx-02.inode.at) by mailhub-01.inode.at with esmtp id 1CSJsR-0008U7-00; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:40:59 +0100 Envelope-to: ru@x-ray.at Received: from [213.229.59.242] (port=58133 helo=mailcheck1.inode.at) by smartmx-02.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CSJsR-0004ow-Vv for ru@x-ray.at; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:40:59 +0100 Received: from [213.229.60.34] (helo=smartmx-02.inode.at) by mailcheck1.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1CSJsQ-00045s-00 for ru@x-ray.at; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:40:58 +0100 Received: from [64.233.170.206] (port=16607 helo=rproxy.gmail.com) by smartmx-02.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CSJsR-0004oN-9P for rurban@x-ray.at; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:40:59 +0100 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a36so344410rnf for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:40:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cIlFvTBEjvPdIq+ISjHt5rI4h+yaS7oTAJVdilRecsdmmyQOb7Jf+3x5ZNG+LEfObtosOkNyae0hXrNi/PGbeNAB7i4QbFq27uV9Irl6zqtlY62PUerbU92pgP6WFDhNISczHjZpZrdeLVNYuQZ7XUHyhkt0pcuA1OQw4cYzdI0= Received: by 10.38.126.5 with SMTP id y5mr1293916rnc; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:40:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.83.39 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:40:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7e4a925c041111104072646a67@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:40:57 -0800 From: Robert Rubin Reply-To: Robert Rubin To: Reini Urban Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] I would like to help. In-Reply-To: <4193B0B0.5070604@x-ray.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_492_14735402.1100198457786" References: <7e4a925c041111101143f36640@mail.gmail.com> <4193B0B0.5070604@x-ray.at> X-Inode-Forwarded: rurban@x-ray.at X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1CSJsQ-00045s-00*CLyX133lscI* X-Inode-SpamScore: 0.0 ------=_Part_492_14735402.1100198457786 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline okay, I need your help though i dont have any knowledge of programming. If you tell me what i should do with the gui i will send you the images and you can put them in I will send you a example i made for a icon for an xvid file open the attachment On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:34:24 +0100, Reini Urban wrote: > Robert Rubin schrieb: > > > > I have an incredible amount of free time and I would like to make > > graphics for any future devoloped projects for Xvid. > > > > If you would like to take this offer up just reply to this message > > The vfw GUI needs some works. > -- > Reini Urban > http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ > ------=_Part_492_14735402.1100198457786-- --------------080308050600020603070400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel --------------080308050600020603070400-- From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Sat Nov 13 00:51:10 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B385D126D83 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 00:51:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3892D15985; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 00:56:36 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4684415984 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 00:56:32 +0100 (CET) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 57so519912wri for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:51:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=GtR6T+Cqh3e8nWT21wukC43KruY7yin5NIzCsaFQDNMLkR1EJDViPMqfZrIoFyFCtFxwfBEXMYLCDVtQRfap09Euj06SSJSK3jD6t2YNPu3wl+ioR+BTHEMv8MND/dDc4OyvmUphoBuEDDS8rE2Mx3O2Qxg2L7Fv+zW8gTThK/c= Received: by 10.54.18.27 with SMTP id 27mr276933wrr; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:51:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.10.34 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:51:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0500 From: Ceryen Tan To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [XviD-devel] I would like to help.] In-Reply-To: <4194A4E6.3080806@x-ray.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4194A4E6.3080806@x-ray.at> X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ceryen Tan , xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Hmm, working on the VFW gui doesn't really refer to creating images and sticking them in. It refers more to working on the actual layout of the gui itself. For example, deciding how things should be organized, where options should go, which options should be included, how to keep the interface logical, clean, and nice looking, etc. The task will almost definitely require at least some programming experience. Unfortunately I don't believe there is much to do on the developing side without at least some programming experience. On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:56:22 +0100, Reini Urban wrote: > [mailed to me personally] > > > -- > Reini Urban > http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Robert Rubin > To: Reini Urban > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:40:57 -0800 > Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] I would like to help. > okay, I need your help though i dont have any knowledge of programming. > If you tell me what i should do with the gui i will send you the > images and you can put them in I will send you a example i made for a > icon for an xvid file open the attachment > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:34:24 +0100, Reini Urban wrote: > > Robert Rubin schrieb: > > > > > > > I have an incredible amount of free time and I would like to make > > > graphics for any future devoloped projects for Xvid. > > > > > > If you would like to take this offer up just reply to this message > > > > The vfw GUI needs some works. > > -- > > Reini Urban > > http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > XviD-devel mailing list > XviD-devel@xvid.org > http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel > > > _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Sat Nov 13 17:40:42 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171AD126D83 for ; 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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Requested file. ++++ Attachment: No Virus found ++++ F-Secure AntiVirus - www.f-secure.com ------=_NextPart_000_0016----=_NextPart_000_0016 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel ------=_NextPart_000_0016----=_NextPart_000_0016-- From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Tue Nov 16 20:56:24 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B3B126D82 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:56:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4821F15925; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:01:51 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from edgomez.kicks-ass.org (edgomez.kicks-ass.org [82.225.208.184]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068A9153E7 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:01:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from edy by edgomez.kicks-ass.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CU9Qx-00021F-Kg for xvid-devel@xvid.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:56:11 +0100 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:56:11 +0100 From: Edouard Gomez To: xvid-devel ML Message-ID: <20041116195611.GA5447@edgomez.dyndns.org> Mail-Followup-To: Edouard Gomez , xvid-devel ML Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Subject: [XviD-devel] ME bug X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Don't have time to look at this at all: http://www.xvid.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2419&highlight= I find there is a little strange in xvid_me_AdvDiamondSearch() at the end of diamond search stops, advDiamond search again neighboring pels but case 2 + 8 and case 1 + 8 shoud change to each other. right ? -- Edouard Gomez _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Tue Nov 16 21:34:42 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF16126D82 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:34:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932FB159DF; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:40:15 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from mail.ln9.net (rrcs-24-73-193-138.se.biz.rr.com [24.73.193.138]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD40159DC for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:40:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.100.77] (fajita.ad.ln9.net [192.168.100.77]) by mail.ln9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F619DCEF for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:34:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.290 [265.3.1]); Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:34:35 -0500 Message-ID: <419A645B.1050406@leoninedev.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:34:35 -0500 From: Bryan Mayland Organization: Leonine Development, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] ME bug References: <20041116195611.GA5447@edgomez.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20041116195611.GA5447@edgomez.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Edouard Gomez wrote: >at the end of diamond search stops, advDiamond search again >neighboring pels >but case 2 + 8 and case 1 + 8 shoud change to each other. > > He's right. The switch code in xvid_me_AdvDiamondSearch() for 2 + 8 is checking for a Left + Down, and the 1 + 8 is checking for a Right + Down. The code for the two case statements should be swapped. I've checked the rest of them (R, L, R+U, U, D, L+U) and they appear to be correct. I'm not sure what he's saying about "at end of diamond search stops" though. _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Sat Nov 20 13:29:25 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEB9126D83 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:29:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE879154DA; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:35:00 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from smtp05.web.de (smtp05.web.de [217.72.192.209]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BBB153BD for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:34:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from [80.141.111.49] (helo=p508D6F31.dip.t-dialin.net) by smtp05.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.102 #165) id 1CVUMc-00016t-00 for xvid-devel@xvid.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:29:14 +0100 From: Martin Kuball To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:10:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411201310.52239.MartinKuball@web.de> X-Sender: MartinKuball@web.de Subject: [XviD-devel] floating point exception on decoding X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Hi! Sometimes I transcode avi files with xvid encoded videos to dvd mpeg2=20 format. Recently I stumbled upon some avi files that give strange=20 errors on decoding. When using ffmpeg for decoding I get an error saying: header damaged. When using xvid (after all the avi header claims to contain video=20 encoded with xvid) I get a floating point exception. Well, I took a=20 deep breath and started gdb. I was able to trace the bug to the field DECODER.time_pp which has a value of 0. Now this is not good if you=20 want to use that value to divide another number with it (in function=20 decoder_bframe in decoder.c line 1326). Well, I can play the avi with e.g. mplayer or xine. Don't know what=20 these programs use to decode the video. But they obiously manage it=20 without errors. So what's going on here? What is this time_pp anyway? Should xvid=20 report an error? Should it guess a value if it finds 0 in time_pp? Martin =A0 _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Mon Nov 22 09:28:25 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7EF126D84 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:28:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23FC15A0D; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:34:04 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from web15306.mail.bjs.yahoo.com (web15306.mail.cnb.yahoo.com [202.43.216.181]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with SMTP id DEF2D159FE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:33:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <20041122082754.91926.qmail@web15306.mail.bjs.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.95.163.86] by web15306.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:27:54 CST Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:27:54 +0800 (CST) From: Keling Fei To: xvid-devel@xvid.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [XviD-devel] Problem about Decoding 704*576 resolution P Frames X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Hi, Dear developer When I using source program of Xvid 1.02 to decode mpeg4 video file,in my case:Simple Profile L2; the resolution is PAL D1 704*576. The P frame always has smeared effect, it seems like the motion estimation or compensation has some problem(for I noticed that the smeared part mostly is the moving part). While the I frame is always ok. In addition, the distance between P frame and I frame further, the effect blurred more. But in resolution of PAL CIF 352*288 ,P frame is clear, all are right. I have been confused about this problem for a long time, but not sure if it is a bug of Xvid , or just some other problem. When tracing the decoding procedure of P frame, I noticed that in 704*576 resolution, the "interlacing " is activated, but what is wrong ? Would you please give me some suggestion.thanks. 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I really feel like going back to xvid now - there are things I want to do, bugs I want to fix and bugs I want to invent. I commited AdvDiamond() fix some hours ago, and dshow brightness fix some minutes after that. What I'm doing now is VBV controls in out VfW config. Everything works well except for one parmeter - peak bitrate. VBV needs it, but the value is NOT hardcoded in our already-coded profiles. Is this a buglet which I should fix, or maybe our profiles do have this value and I just can't see it? They have some values I don't understand, that might be it. Now, another thing: RRV. What are we going to do about it? It doesn't work, it's useless, it's not supported by anything. We can either fix it or get rid of it. I place my vote on removal, lots of ME, MC and decoder code will become clearer. Further down the road, I want to make XviD understand packed bitstream without any stupid DIVX markers (it is easy, this is how all other decoders work right now) and implement HVS plugins (I've already made up my mind how). Radek PS. don't forget to answer about the profile / peak bitrate stuff :) _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Mon Nov 22 10:21:19 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74185126D84 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:21:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1A415AC3; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:27:03 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from nil.math.uni-bonn.de (mail.math.uni-bonn.de [131.220.120.11]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A13F15AC0 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:27:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from login.math.uni-bonn.de (login.math.uni-bonn.de [131.220.120.13]) by nil.math.uni-bonn.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C3D52166 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:24:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:21:13 +0100 (CET) From: Christoph Lampert To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] time for some progress :) In-Reply-To: <41A1A9A7.4070609@ihug.com.au> Message-ID: References: <41A1A9A7.4070609@ihug.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Radek Czyz wrote: > > As you might know, my exams are over. Congratulations! > What I'm doing now is VBV controls in out VfW config. Everything works > well except for one parmeter - peak bitrate. VBV needs it, but the value > is NOT hardcoded in our already-coded profiles. Is this a buglet which I > should fix, or maybe our profiles do have this value and I just can't > see it? They have some values I don't understand, that might be it. Peak bitrate doesn't matter at all, it's a broken DXN invention. If the stream doesn't violate the Max-Rate, it can also never violate the Peak-Rate (at least in the profiles they specified so far). I don't know why they came up with it... For clarity, you can just go ahead and add it to the profiles, but the algorithm shouldn't be influenced. > PS. don't forget to answer about the profile / peak bitrate stuff :) already did ;-) gruel _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Mon Nov 22 10:52:58 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738E5126D84 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:52:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0EC153FC; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:58:41 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from ftp.ilog.fr (ftp.ilog.fr [81.80.162.195]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9615153D5 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:58:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from laposte.ilog.fr (cerbere-qe0 [81.80.162.193]) by ftp.ilog.fr (8.13.1/8.13.0) with ESMTP id iAM9qnOi020048 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:52:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from latitude344 ([172.17.4.249]) by laposte.ilog.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAM9qi5b023065 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:52:44 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] time for some progress :) From: skal To: xvid-devel@xvid.org In-Reply-To: <41A1A9A7.4070609@ihug.com.au> References: <41A1A9A7.4070609@ihug.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1101116943.1464.17.camel@latitude344> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 22 Nov 2004 10:49:03 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Hi Radek and all, On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 09:56, Radek Czyz wrote: > > Now, another thing: RRV. What are we going to do about it? It doesn't > work, it's useless, it's not supported by anything. We can either fix it > or get rid of it. I place my vote on removal, lots of ME, MC and decoder > code will become clearer. I'd vote for removal too, since it's not used. But i wouldn't say it's useless, though: it could have work for hi-mo scenes, i think. Too bad. bye! Skal _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Mon Nov 22 11:21:50 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050B2126D84 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:21:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5EB14999; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:27:34 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from nil.math.uni-bonn.de (mail.math.uni-bonn.de [131.220.120.11]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56162142C7 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:27:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from login.math.uni-bonn.de (login.math.uni-bonn.de [131.220.120.13]) by nil.math.uni-bonn.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0CF51EB5 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:24:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:21:45 +0100 (CET) From: Christoph Lampert To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] time for some progress :) In-Reply-To: <1101116943.1464.17.camel@latitude344> Message-ID: References: <41A1A9A7.4070609@ihug.com.au> <1101116943.1464.17.camel@latitude344> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, skal wrote: > > Now, another thing: RRV. What are we going to do about it? It doesn't > > work, it's useless, it's not supported by anything. We can either fix it > > or get rid of it. I place my vote on removal, lots of ME, MC and decoder > > code will become clearer. > > I'd vote for removal too, since it's not used. But i wouldn't > say it's useless, though: it could have work for hi-mo scenes, > i think. Too bad. Yeah, get rid of it, make a clean cut. ME is confusing enough without it. ;) gruel _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Mon Nov 22 11:30:06 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D3C126D84 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:30:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD111596E; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:35:50 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F806153FA for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:35:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (ppp156-49.lns1.mel3.internode.on.net [150.101.156.49]) by smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iAMATs4Z015501 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:59:54 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:30:23 +1100 From: pete To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] time for some progress :) In-Reply-To: <41A1A9A7.4070609@ihug.com.au> References: <41A1A9A7.4070609@ihug.com.au> Message-Id: <20041123092329.83AC.PROSS@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.09.01 [en] X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: pross@xvid.org, xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org hi, On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:26:07 +1030 Radek Czyz wrote: > Now, another thing: RRV. What are we going to do about it? It doesn't > work, it's useless, it's not supported by anything. We can either fix it > or get rid of it. I place my vote on removal, lots of ME, MC and decoder > code will become clearer. iam in favor of this. no one is using or maintaining it, and its not compatible with anything else. for the record, it was originally implemented because i deemed the realtime profile potentially useful and fun to play with. cheers, -- pete _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Mon Nov 22 22:20:24 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E42126D84 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:20:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB9615A06; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:26:07 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from smtp08.web.de (smtp08.web.de [217.72.192.226]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE65159FE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:26:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [80.141.96.49] (helo=p508D6031.dip.t-dialin.net) by smtp08.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.102 #165) id 1CWLbc-0001pH-00 for xvid-devel@xvid.org; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:20:16 +0100 From: Martin Kuball To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] floating point exception on decoding Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:29:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <200411201310.52239.MartinKuball@web.de> In-Reply-To: <200411201310.52239.MartinKuball@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411222129.24165.MartinKuball@web.de> X-Sender: MartinKuball@web.de X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Please! Anybody here who can give me a short description of this=20 time_pp field? Martin Am Saturday 20 November 2004 13:10 schrieb Martin Kuball: > Hi! > > Sometimes I transcode avi files with xvid encoded videos to dvd > mpeg2 format. Recently I stumbled upon some avi files that give > strange errors on decoding. > > When using ffmpeg for decoding I get an error saying: header > damaged. > > When using xvid (after all the avi header claims to contain video > encoded with xvid) I get a floating point exception. Well, I took a > deep breath and started gdb. I was able to trace the bug to the > field DECODER.time_pp which has a value of 0. Now this is not good > if you want to use that value to divide another number with it (in > function decoder_bframe in decoder.c line 1326). > > Well, I can play the avi with e.g. mplayer or xine. Don't know what > these programs use to decode the video. But they obiously manage it > without errors. > > So what's going on here? What is this time_pp anyway? Should xvid > report an error? Should it guess a value if it finds 0 in time_pp? > > Martin > =A0 > _______________________________________________ > XviD-devel mailing list > XviD-devel@xvid.org > http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Mon Nov 22 22:49:11 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3947126D84 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:49:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9E715A0B; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:54:56 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from edgomez.kicks-ass.org (edgomez.kicks-ass.org [82.225.208.184]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94793159DD for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:54:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from edy by edgomez.kicks-ass.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CWM3W-00031l-6f for xvid-devel@xvid.org; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:49:06 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:49:06 +0100 From: Edouard Gomez To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] floating point exception on decoding Message-ID: <20041122214906.GA5368@edgomez.kicks-ass.org> Mail-Followup-To: Edouard Gomez , xvid-devel@xvid.org References: <200411201310.52239.MartinKuball@web.de> <200411222129.24165.MartinKuball@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200411222129.24165.MartinKuball@web.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Martin Kuball (MartinKuball@web.de) wrote: > Please! Anybody here who can give me a short description of this > time_pp field? As read in bitstream/bitstream.c L820: dec->time_pp = (int32_t)(dec->time - dec->last_non_b_time); (where dec->time is the current decoded frame time) Which means in real words: time_pp is the time separating the last two reference frames expressed in ticks. Exemple of its usage: It is used to interpolate motion vectors for bframes. -- Edouard Gomez _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Tue Nov 23 07:34:24 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B59B126D84 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:34:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2481596A; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:40:08 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from ns3.jdl.ac.cn (unknown [159.226.42.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECB51595B for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:40:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from jthou ([192.168.8.135]) by ns3.jdl.ac.cn (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id iAN6QIXA027236 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:26:23 +0800 Message-ID: <000901c4d126$685fae80$8708a8c0@jthou> From: "Jinting Hou" To: References: <7e4a925c041111101143f36640@mail.gmail.com> <1100214078.4193ef3ed35e0@www.xvid.org> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:33:52 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: [XviD-devel] would anybody help me ? 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First minor thing: Your stream cannot really be Simple Profile=20 at Level 2, because that only supports resolution up to CIF (352x288), see Table N-1. That shouldn't cause problems on the XviD side, but=20 possibly at the encoder? On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Keling Fei wrote: > Hi, Dear developer > When I using source program of Xvid 1.02 to decode > mpeg4 video file,in my case:Simple Profile L2; the > resolution is PAL D1 704*576. The P frame always has > smeared effect, it seems like the motion estimation or > compensation has some problem(for I noticed that the > smeared part mostly is the moving part). While the I > frame is always ok. In addition, the distance between > P frame and I frame further, the effect blurred more.=20 > But in resolution of PAL CIF 352*288 ,P frame is > clear, all are right. > I have been confused about this problem for a long > time, but not sure if it is a bug of Xvid , or just > some other problem. > When tracing the decoding procedure of P frame, I > noticed that in 704*576 resolution, the "interlacing=20 > " > is activated, but what is wrong ?=20 > Would you please give me some suggestion.thanks. > =20 > Best Regards=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > 150=CD=F2=C7=FAMP3=B7=E8=BF=F1=CB=D1=A3=AC=B4=F8=C4=FA=B4=B3=C8=EB=D2=F4= =C0=D6=B5=EE=CC=C3 > http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/yisou/music/*http://music.yisou.com/ > =C3=C0=C5=AE=C3=F7=D0=C7=D3=A6=D3=D0=BE=A1=D3=D0=A3=AC=CB=D1=B1=E9=C3=C0= =CD=BC=A1=A2=D1=DE=CD=BC=BA=CD=BF=E1=CD=BC > http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/yisou/image/*http://image.yisou.com > 1G=BE=CD=CA=C71000=D5=D7=A3=AC=D1=C5=BB=A2=B5=E7=D3=CA=D7=D4=D6=FA=C0=A9= =C8=DD=A3=A1 > http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/1g/*http://cn.mail.yahoo.com/event/mai= l_1g/ > _______________________________________________ > XviD-devel mailing list > XviD-devel@xvid.org > http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel >=20 _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Wed Nov 24 10:16:03 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEA8126D82 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:16:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40608159EB; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:21:48 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from web13426.mail.yahoo.com (web13426.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.157]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 24E03159A0 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:21:43 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 26035 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Nov 2004 09:15:48 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=hB2/uvEZFpPhKL6CHHmfNYc0Iix/jbPjf8oPPGlXBUpSic3NvrIReCOR3/UNmCGQw1GDN6jn4u7vCrm3BbA5fHuiueyB2OJmtDf8VqBMKKBYtZCsR1mcE7YDxiNvxA284IiA18UfQ2Q4mCB+J624pBwKWC+ixHlEf++SBcTiOZM= ; Message-ID: <20041124091546.26032.qmail@web13426.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.244.221.1] by web13426.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:15:46 PST Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:15:46 -0800 (PST) From: Tushit Bharthuar To: xvid-devel@xvid.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [XviD-devel] GMC help X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org hi, i am sorry for disturbing u all by asking a simple question... but i couldnot follow the GMC procedure followed by the decoder at all.. Can u plz tell me where i can read the algorithm implemented in the source code? if it is not available, can u plz explain a little bit and also tell me where to start frm? Thanks Tushit __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Wed Nov 24 13:48:29 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDB0126D82 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:48:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC391599B; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:54:17 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from nil.math.uni-bonn.de (mail.math.uni-bonn.de [131.220.120.11]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596011598D for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:54:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from login.math.uni-bonn.de (login.math.uni-bonn.de [131.220.120.13]) by nil.math.uni-bonn.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BDA54BDC for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:51:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:48:18 +0100 (CET) From: Christoph Lampert To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] GMC help In-Reply-To: <20041124091546.26032.qmail@web13426.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20041124091546.26032.qmail@web13426.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Tushit Bharthuar wrote: > i am sorry for disturbing u all by asking a simple > question... > but i couldnot follow the GMC procedure followed by > the decoder at all.. > Can u plz tell me where i can read the algorithm > implemented in the source code? > if it is not available, can u plz explain a little bit > and also tell me where to start frm? Hi, a good source of information for the algorithm is the PhD thesis (in german) and some papers (in english) by Aljoscha Smolic: http://iphome.hhi.de/smolic/personal.html If you have further questions, feel free to ask here. gruel _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Wed Nov 24 23:10:48 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8590B126D82 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:10:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB23E15997; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:16:36 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from edgomez.kicks-ass.org (edgomez.kicks-ass.org [82.225.208.184]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F0B15981 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:16:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from edy by edgomez.kicks-ass.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CX5LW-0004tA-T2 for xvid-devel@xvid.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:10:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:10:42 +0100 From: Edouard Gomez To: xvid-devel ML Message-ID: <20041124221042.GC5526@edgomez.kicks-ass.org> Mail-Followup-To: Edouard Gomez , xvid-devel ML Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Subject: [XviD-devel] [CVS commits] 1.1 and 1.0 syncing. X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org As usual fixes don't follow the right path :-) I was bored this evening and decided to sync things a bit in case a 1.0.3 has to be out before reaching 1.1 betas ? I'm still lazy at merging the AMD64 code, i have no box to test it on... i hate doing blind merges, even w/o upstream author feedback. ------------------------------------------------------------ Just a sum up of what's been done in 1.0 tree since last release: 2004-11-24 21:25:35 GMT Edouard Gomez patch-62 Summary: Fixed stride in vfw frontend. Revision: xvidcore--stable--1.0--patch-62 From pete: * Fixed the way stride is computed in the VFW frontend. (Same cure as for the DShow frontend) modified files: vfw/src/codec.c 2004-11-24 21:09:45 GMT Edouard Gomez patch-61 Summary: Fixed stride in DShow decoder. Revision: xvidcore--stable--1.0--patch-61 From pete: * Fixed the way stride is computed in DShow filter modified files: dshow/src/CXvidDecoder.cpp 2004-11-24 21:05:54 GMT Edouard Gomez patch-60 Summary: Fixed DiamondSearch Revision: xvidcore--stable--1.0--patch-60 From sysKin: * Fixed DiamondSearch, wrong directions were used in two cases. modified files: src/motion/estimation_common.c 2004-10-12 20:59:17 GMT Edouard Gomez patch-59 Summary: Don't read too short streams. Revision: xvidcore--stable--1.0--patch-59 From sysKin: * Dont even try to read bitstreams shorter than 4 bytes (nb: 4 bytes == size of startcodes). modified files: src/bitstream/bitstream.c 2004-10-12 20:33:59 GMT Edouard Gomez patch-58 Summary: 64bit fixes Revision: xvidcore--stable--1.0--patch-58 From Andre Werthmann (wertmann at aei dot mpg dot de): - uint vs int cleanups for addresses. This fixes various problems for 64bit platforms. modified files: src/image/interpolate8x8.h src/image/qpel.h src/motion/estimation_bvop.c src/motion/motion_comp.c 2004-10-12 19:22:53 GMT Edouard Gomez patch-57 Summary: ME fix. Revision: xvidcore--stable--1.0--patch-57 From gruel: * Diamond search sets iDirection to 0 preventing further searches. modified files: src/motion/estimation_common.c -- Edouard Gomez _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Thu Nov 25 04:45:22 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC7F126D82 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 04:45:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48642159DE; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 04:51:11 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from web15309.mail.cnb.yahoo.com (web15309.mail.cnb.yahoo.com [202.43.216.184]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 33DB6159DA for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 04:51:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <20041125034506.15493.qmail@web15309.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.95.163.86] by web15309.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:45:06 CST Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:45:06 +0800 (CST) From: mayfig To: Xvid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [XviD-devel] Confusion about Interlacing Implemantation X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Hey, Confused about some implementation of Interlacing argumant in MotionVector of MacroBlock , in ISO/IEC_14496_2_2001_PDF_Version, I noticed that in 6.2.6 MacroBlock---Page 54, in the 10th Item of the Table: If the condition if((derived_mb_type == 0|| derived_mb_type ==1) && (vop_coding_type == "P" || vop_coding_type == "S" && !mcsel))) satisfied ,then there will be some steps below: motion_vector('forward"); if(interlaced && field_prediction) motion_vector("forward"); My confusion is : 1. Does it mean ,when the condtion " if(interlaced && field_prediction)" satisfied, the first " motion_vector("forward")" will be neglected,and only completes the second operation of " motion_vector("forward")". Am I right? 2.What the difference of the first and the second motion_vector('forward")? 3.I noticed that in the function of decoder_pframe (in the decoder.c of Xvid 1.0.2),there are if (dec->interlacing && mb->field_pred) { get_motion_vector(dec, bs, x, y, 0, &mb->mvs[0], fcode, bound); get_motion_vector(dec, bs, x, y, 0, &mb->mvs[1], fcode, bound); } Is it complete? why only twice not fourth times ? how to deal with mb->mvs[2] mb->mvs[3]? Sorry to take your time , Could anyone give me an explanation? Thanks. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 150万曲MP3疯狂搜，带您闯入音乐殿堂 http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/yisou/music/*http://music.yisou.com/ 美女明星应有尽有，搜遍美图、艳图和酷图 http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/yisou/image/*http://image.yisou.com 1G就是1000兆，雅虎电邮自助扩容！ http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/1g/*http://cn.mail.yahoo.com/event/mail_1g/ _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Thu Nov 25 07:25:56 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EB6126D82 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 07:25:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69EA615A4A; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 07:31:40 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from web15306.mail.bjs.yahoo.com (web15306.mail.cnb.yahoo.com [202.43.216.181]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 87A3315989 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 07:31:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <20041125062541.23153.qmail@web15306.mail.bjs.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.95.163.86] by web15306.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 14:25:41 CST Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 14:25:41 +0800 (CST) From: mayfig To: Xvid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [XviD-devel] Another Question about Implemantation of Interlacing X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Hey, during the procedure of MacroBlock decoding, when the interlacing is enabled, if the dct_type == field DCT ,then I think the field_prediction should be "1" always, which means the macroblock is field predicted, But why when I use my bitstream to trace the P frame decoding , the dct_type is always " field DCT" (in Xvid "mb->field_dct") but field_prediction is sometimes 0 ,sometimes 1 (in Xvid "mb->field_pred") Why? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 150万曲MP3疯狂搜，带您闯入音乐殿堂 http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/yisou/music/*http://music.yisou.com/ 美女明星应有尽有，搜遍美图、艳图和酷图 http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/yisou/image/*http://image.yisou.com 1G就是1000兆，雅虎电邮自助扩容！ http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/1g/*http://cn.mail.yahoo.com/event/mail_1g/ _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Thu Nov 25 13:59:18 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEF8126D82 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 13:59:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B901159C5; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 14:05:04 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from web13425.mail.yahoo.com (web13425.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.156]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D173159B5 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 14:05:00 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 52704 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Nov 2004 12:59:06 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=MX90fNHJPKGt9xEykvu+kpfg7qbE58QTwquyVbjY7HXXXdYhAcrL1qjHVtb0NhNLLstjW6H/osL5l4+MA4vLMhZRvEwUrYaD8Vp2duNhk+5Qv/KrIUtJGuEmF6T4THDb+yCsZnfBMFaYSmVKL67Z5vtzUeJxnX0md2kk3aC8z5E= ; Message-ID: <20041125125906.52702.qmail@web13425.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.244.221.1] by web13425.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 04:59:06 PST Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 04:59:06 -0800 (PST) From: Tushit Bharthuar To: xvid-devel@xvid.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [XviD-devel] Re:Confusion about Interlacing Implemantation X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Hi, I will try to answer your questions....but I am myself new to all of this. Hopefully while explaining my understanding will also become better. 1. For interlaced and field prediction both the statements would be followed.If the macroblock is field predicted, there will will be two motion vectors, one for each field.. 2. It should have already become clear.. no difference.. one is for the top field and the other for bottom field if the macroblock is field predicted... otherwise only one motion vector in case of frame predicted macroblocks. 3. I haven't gone thru the source code completely very well but I think it is so because if the macroblock is field predicted it cannot be INTER4V..so they must using mb->mvs[0] and mvs[1] for the two field motion vectors. And if I am wrong, plz correct me. Tushit P.S. Thank you for helping me out with GMC. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Fri Nov 26 06:31:53 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8662126D82 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 06:31:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EE915970; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 06:37:43 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from web15312.mail.bjs.yahoo.com (web15312.mail.cnb.yahoo.com [202.43.216.187]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with SMTP id CDEE31596B for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 06:37:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <20041126053141.1762.qmail@web15312.mail.bjs.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.95.163.86] by web15312.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:41 CST Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:31:41 +0800 (CST) From: mayfig Subject: Re: [XviD-devel] Re:Confusion about Interlacing Implemantation To: xvid-devel@xvid.org In-Reply-To: <20041125125906.52702.qmail@web13425.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Hi, It is nice to read your e-mail this morning. I found some detailed info in the Section of 7.7.2 of MPEG4 Standard last night,and understand it . Yeah ,I agree with you for 1 and 2 point , if the macroblock is a field predicted MB, after decoding, there will be two MotionVectors: (MVxf1,MVyf1),(MVxf2,MVyf2) ,which corresponding to top and bottom fields of the MacroBlock. Consequently,in the source code there will be mb->mvs[0] and mb->mvs[1] which inlude info about the top and bottom fields. For the 3 point, I am not sure.Maybe it depends on the mode of MB, if it is MODE_INTER4V,then this MB has four MotionVectors; if it is not MODE_INTER4V: then there are two cases, if the MB is a frame predicted MB, then it has one MotionVector,and if the MB is a field predicted MB,then it has two MotionVectors which are for top field and bottom field. But for the three Cases in Section 7.7.2.1, I mean when the mb->field_pred==1, which means the current MB is a field predicted MB, I think the implementation of Xvid has some problem. Moreover , it did not use the info of mb->mvs[1] when it implement the interpolation of motion vectors. One more question, in the decoding process of MB, if the sequence of MB, is just for (y = 0; y < mb_height; y++) { ... for (x = 0; x < mb_width; x++) { ..... } } for the curent MB, how to decide its neighbor MB , i.e. left, top left, and top right , I do not know how to realize it. Feel so helpful to discuss it with you , now once again in agreement with you. Thank you for your kind response. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 注册世界一流品质的雅虎免费电邮 http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/1g/*http://cn.mail.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel From xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Mon Nov 29 07:47:04 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from edu.bnhof.de (edu.bnhof.de [213.167.167.52]) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C579F126D85 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:47:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from edu.bnhof.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F13BFF7; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:52:58 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org Delivered-To: xvid-devel@edu.bnhof.de Received: from web54608.mail.yahoo.com (web54608.mail.yahoo.com [68.142.225.192]) by edu.bnhof.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 780A19CAA for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:52:52 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 90963 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Nov 2004 06:46:52 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=r4S59qkDRIML2i/MGMAwXeWWmMnvQN/uTugtdWwBoleHgDL4foQ6JD8tmqsoDkC8dvstZtfpp5cr2neQmFSJPvuSC+gJ7gOSg2ShH/QsBKGT7XQ5BQpbwLyaM0+vAiB4RkWbHM1Pad93HjtzTRdmmwwUrLgygsj6ryRmsYKnlzI= ; Message-ID: <20041129064652.90961.qmail@web54608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.95.224.103] by web54608.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:46:52 PST Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:46:52 -0800 (PST) From: lakshmikanth r To: xvid-devel@xvid.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [XviD-devel] FDCT constants X-BeenThere: xvid-devel@xvid.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: xvid-devel@xvid.org List-Id: xvid-devel.xvid.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org Errors-To: xvid-devel-bounces@xvid.org HI, I am a new to the field of MPEG4 encodeing and I was going through your xvid reference code and in specfic DCT calculation. The following line of code is found in dct.c " #define FIX_0_298631336 ((int) 2446) /* FIX(0.298631336) */ #define FIX_0_390180644 ((int) 3196) /* FIX(0.390180644) */ #define FIX_0_541196100 ((int) 4433) /* FIX(0.541196100) */ #define FIX_0_765366865 ((int) 6270) /* FIX(0.765366865) */ #define FIX_0_899976223 ((int) 7373) /* FIX(0.899976223) */ #define FIX_1_175875602 ((int) 9633) /* FIX(1.175875602) */ #define FIX_1_501321110 ((int) 12299) /* FIX(1.501321110) */ #define FIX_1_847759065 ((int) 15137) /* FIX(1.847759065) */ #define FIX_1_961570560 ((int) 16069) /* FIX(1.961570560) */ #define FIX_2_053119869 ((int) 16819) /* FIX(2.053119869) */ #define FIX_2_562915447 ((int) 20995) /* FIX(2.562915447) */ #define FIX_3_072711026 ((int) 25172) /* FIX(3.072711026) */ " Can any one of explain what is calculation to arrive at the following constants, (0.298631336), (0.390180644), (0.541196100), (0.765366865), (0.899976223), (1.175875602), (1.501321110), (1.847759065), (1.961570560), (2.053119869), (2.562915447), (3.072711026), " Awaiting your response, With regards, R.Lakshmikanth __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ XviD-devel mailing list XviD-devel@xvid.org http://list.xvid.org/mailman/listinfo/xvid-devel