From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Sep 1 14:14:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0C9126D93 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:14:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j81C9WRd018985; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:09:32 +0200 Received: from hotmail.com (bay20-f19.bay20.hotmail.com [64.4.54.108]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j81C9TRd018964 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:09:29 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 05:09:21 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 195.237.72.114 by by20fd.bay20.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 12:09:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.237.72.114] X-Originating-Email: [salmjuh@hotmail.com] X-Sender: salmjuh@hotmail.com From: "juha salmijärvi" To: transcode-users@exit1.org Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 12:09:20 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2005 12:09:21.0402 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC57C5A0:01C5AEED] X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] mpeg2 -> mov X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi gurus Is't possible to trascode videos to quictime mov format. Here I have exsample video file which was made by Final cut: [root@videosrv1]# transcode -i /tmp/blair.mov transcode v0.6.14 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms [transcode] auto-probing source /tmp/blair.mov (ok) [transcode] V: import format | unknown QuickTime (V=mov|A=mov) [transcode] V: import frame | 720x576 1.25:1 [transcode] V: bits/pixel | 0.174 [transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 25.000,3 [transcode] V: Y'CbCr | YV12/I420 [transcode] A: import format | 0x1 PCM [48000,16,2] [transcode] A: export | disabled [transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 25.000,3 [transcode] A: bytes per frame | 7680 (7680.000000) [transcode] A: adjustment | 0@1000 [transcode] V: IA32 accel mode | sse3 (sse3 sse2 sse mmxext mmx asm C) tc_memcpy: using mmxext for memcpy [transcode] warning : no option -o found, encoded frames send to "/dev/null" [transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x576 [import_mov.so] v0.1.2 (2002-05-16) (video) * | (audio) * [export_null.so] v0.1.2 (2001-08-17) (video) null | (audio) null [import_mov.so] codec=twos, rate=48000 Hz, bits=16, channels=2, samples=2048640 [import_mov.so] VIDEO: codec=dvcp, fps=25.000, width=720, height=576, frames=1067 error: quicktime codec 'dvcp' not supported for RGB! video import module error: OPEN failed [transcode] critical: failed to open input source [root@videosrv1]# So I would like to convert video files to format, what users can use in final cut. Thanks advance -Jussi From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Sep 1 14:17:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE97126D93 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:17:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j81CFGRd019407; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:15:16 +0200 Received: from hotmail.com (bay20-f24.bay20.hotmail.com [64.4.54.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j81CFDRd019388 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:15:14 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 05:15:06 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 195.237.72.114 by by20fd.bay20.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 12:15:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.237.72.114] X-Originating-Email: [salmjuh@hotmail.com] X-Sender: salmjuh@hotmail.com From: "juha s." To: transcode-users@exit1.org Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 12:15:05 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2005 12:15:06.0034 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9C27120:01C5AEEE] X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] FW: mpeg2 -> mov X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi gurus Is't possible to trascode videos to quictime mov format. Here I have exsample video file which was made by Final cut: [root@videosrv1]# transcode -i /tmp/blair.mov transcode v0.6.14 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms [transcode] auto-probing source /tmp/blair.mov (ok) [transcode] V: import format | unknown QuickTime (V=mov|A=mov) [transcode] V: import frame | 720x576 1.25:1 [transcode] V: bits/pixel | 0.174 [transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 25.000,3 [transcode] V: Y'CbCr | YV12/I420 [transcode] A: import format | 0x1 PCM [48000,16,2] [transcode] A: export | disabled [transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 25.000,3 [transcode] A: bytes per frame | 7680 (7680.000000) [transcode] A: adjustment | 0@1000 [transcode] V: IA32 accel mode | sse3 (sse3 sse2 sse mmxext mmx asm C) tc_memcpy: using mmxext for memcpy [transcode] warning : no option -o found, encoded frames send to "/dev/null" [transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x576 [import_mov.so] v0.1.2 (2002-05-16) (video) * | (audio) * [export_null.so] v0.1.2 (2001-08-17) (video) null | (audio) null [import_mov.so] codec=twos, rate=48000 Hz, bits=16, channels=2, samples=2048640 [import_mov.so] VIDEO: codec=dvcp, fps=25.000, width=720, height=576, frames=1067 error: quicktime codec 'dvcp' not supported for RGB! video import module error: OPEN failed [transcode] critical: failed to open input source [root@videosrv1]# So I would like to convert video files to format, what users can use in final cut. Thanks advance -Jussi From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Sep 1 15:42:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AFE126D93 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:42:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j81DdBRd025094; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:39:11 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j81Dd9Rd025076 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:39:09 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id C68DC14340BD; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:39:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id E5EFD43C0C5; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:38:51 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Adjusting Volume for a VOB From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <4315D3A2.2030409@eecs.oregonstate.edu> References: <4315061A.9010405@eecs.oregonstate.edu> <1125478138.20251.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4315D3A2.2030409@eecs.oregonstate.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-JNWbt5aCXe7wq5XYKDxJ" Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:38:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1125581931.32356.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-91.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-JNWbt5aCXe7wq5XYKDxJ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 08:58 -0700, Christoph Neumann wrote: > >>I'm trying to amplify volume for an audio track in a VOB file. I'm=20 > >>having problems. Unfortunately I cannot reencode to VOB from another=20 > >>source. The VOB file is all I have. > >[ ... ] > >All of this has been discussed lately. > Are you referring to the "How do I rip a DVD to separate m2v and m2a=20 > files" thread? If so, it isn't what I'm looking for. No. The thread where someone tried to increase the volume of the ac3 track and didn't succeed, because ffmpeg has a bug that encodes ac3 3-6 dB too soft.=20 > First item I didn't see discussed: The following process, which simply=20 > tries to split the VOB MPG file and put it back together again results=20 > in sync errors. Why can't I, at the very least, take an mpg file, split=20 > it and mplex it and have it work? What am I missing? This, as well, has been discussed so many times. I'll give a hint, you cannot just split audio and video from a stream, glue them together again an expect it all works. Your timestamps have been completely lost. This is especially important on ITU-R "I" (30000/1001 fps) recordings (US). > Second item that I didn't see discussed: Why is the frame rate detected=20 > differently between transcode and ffmpeg? Might this be affecting the=20 > first problem? > [tcprobe] MPEG program stream (PS) > [tcprobe] summary for infile.mpg, (*) =3D not default, 0 =3D not detected > import frame size: -g 720x480 [720x576] (*) > aspect ratio: 4:3 (*) > frame rate: -f 23.976 [25.000] frc=3D1 (*) > PTS=3D0.5000, frame_time=3D41 ms, bitrate=3D104857 kb= ps > audio track: -a 0 [0] -e 48000,16,2 [48000,16,2] -n 0x2000 [0x2000= ] > PTS=3D0.5000, bitrate=3D384 kbps > -D 0 --av_fine_ms 0 (frames & ms) [0] [0] >=20 > This is from ffmpeg (note the frame rate doesn't match tcprobe) > Input #0, mpeg, from 'infile.mpg': > Duration: 01:27:06.1, start: 0.500000, bitrate: 1881 kb/s > Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg2video, 720x480, 29.97 fps > Stream #0.1: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 384 kb/s This usually means a mixed-fps stream or an improperly muxed stream. The solutions to this have been discussed about all of the time. 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Fri, 2 Sep 2005 09:26:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j827MSRd014169; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 09:22:28 +0200 Received: from fscked.org (c-67-188-96-111.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.96.111]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j827MORd014153 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 09:22:25 +0200 Received: from mikepery by fscked.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EB5Mg-0002DC-7D; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 01:49:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 01:49:30 -0500 From: Mike Perry To: atrpms-users@atrpms.net, transcode-users@exit1.org Message-ID: <20050902064930.GA11975@fscked.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Cc: Subject: [transcode-users] Transcode+ffmpeg producing out of sync audio X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Using transcode-1.0.0-18.rhfc4.at and ffmpeg-0.4.9-10_cvs20050612.rhfc4.at, I'm getting out of sync audio on both xvid4 and ffmpeg/mpeg4 streams. I'm using the perl-Video-DVDRip package to call transcode for me. It's about a half-second mismatch in sync, most easily noticable when observing dialog. The audio is leading the video. It seems to get slightly worse the further you get into the avi. I've selected 96kbps mp3 audio and "0 - best" compression, the output is supposed to be a 700mb avi file. I just used the defaults for frame size and clipping. This yields the following transcode command: transcode -Y 4,0,4,0 -s 2.643 -w 790,50 -i /data/rips/SomeMovie/vob/001 -y ffmpeg -M 2 --print_status 20 -F mpeg4 --a52_drc_off --accel 3dnow -B 15,10,8 -x vob -b 96,0,0 -a 0 -H 10 -o /data/rips/SomeMovie/avi/001/SomeMovie-001.avi -f 24,1 It should be noted that mplayer spits out the following notice when playing the avi: "Movie-Aspect is 1.82:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect." Dunno if its possible if the prescaling code is broken in mplayer.. For that I'm using mplayer-1.0-46_pre7.rhfc4.at. Is anyone else noticing these issues? Is it perhaps specific to my options for some reason? Note that I did have to throw in the '--accel 3dnow' switch to avoid a segfault, as described here: http://lists.freshrpms.net/pipermail/freshrpms-list/2005-August/013428.html -- Mike Perry Mad Computer Scientist fscked.org evil labs From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 2 17:05:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E70C126D82 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 17:05:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j82F0WRd012770; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 17:00:32 +0200 Received: from hermes.ccf.auth.gr (hermes.ccf.auth.gr [155.207.1.30]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j82F0RRd012752 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 17:00:29 +0200 Received: from [155.207.18.50] (elab3.eng.auth.gr [155.207.18.50]) by hermes.ccf.auth.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j82F0QvS003017 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 18:00:27 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4318691A.1000201@auth.gr> Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 18:00:42 +0300 From: Argiris Mokios User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List References: <4315061A.9010405@eecs.oregonstate.edu> <1125478138.20251.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4315D3A2.2030409@eecs.oregonstate.edu> <1125581931.32356.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1125581931.32356.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.86.2/1054/Fri Sep 2 17:26:51 2005 on alpha.ccf.auth.gr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Failure in avi to mpeg conversion X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hello, I have an avi file with: tcprobe -i island [tcprobe] RIFF data, AVI video [avilib] V: 25.000 fps, codec=XVID, frames=195603, width=640, height=272 [avilib] A: 48000 Hz, format=0x2000, bits=0, channels=2, bitrate=192 kbps, [avilib] 195578 chunks, 187776000 bytes, CBR [tcprobe] summary for island, (*) = not default, 0 = not detected import frame size: -g 640x272 [720x576] (*) frame rate: -f 25.000 [25.000] frc=3 audio track: -a 0 [0] -e 48000,0,2 [48000,16,2] -n 0x2000 [0x2000] (*) bitrate=192 kbps length: 195603 frames, frame_time=40 msec, duration=2:10:24.120 and when I try to use transcode: transcode --nice 20 -x mplayer,null -y ffmpeg,null -F mpeg2video --export_prof dvd-pal --export_fps 25 --export_asr 3 -i island -o island transcode v1.0.0 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable. libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO. [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms [transcode] auto-probing source island (ok) [transcode] V: import format | XviD RIFF data, AVI (V=mplayer|A=null) [transcode] V: import frame | 640x272 2.35:1 XXX: zoom=yes pre_clip=yes [transcode] V: pre clip frame | 640x382 (-56,0,-54,0) [transcode] V: zoom | 720x576 1.76:1 (Lanczos3) [transcode] V: bits/pixel | 0.174 [transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 25.000,3 [transcode] V: Y'CbCr | YV12/I420 [transcode] A: import format | 0x2001 AC3/A52 [48000,16,2] 192 kbps [transcode] A: export | disabled [transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 25.000,3 [transcode] A: bytes per frame | 7680 (7680.000000) [transcode] A: adjustment | 0@1000 [transcode] V: IA32/AMD64 accel | sse3 (sse3 sse2 sse 3dnowext 3dnow mmxext mmx asm C) tc_memcpy: using amd64 for memcpy [transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x576 [import_null.so] v0.2.0 (2002-01-19) (video) null | (audio) null [import_mplayer.so] v0.0.5 (2003-03-10) (video) rendered by mplayer | (audio) rendered by mplayer [export_null.so] v0.1.2 (2001-08-17) (video) null | (audio) null [export_ffmpeg.so] v0.3.13 (2004-08-03) (video) FFmpeg0.4.9-pre1b4718 | (audio) MPEG/AC3/PCM [import_mplayer.so] mplayer -benchmark -noframedrop -nosound -vo yuv4mpeg "island" -osdlevel 0 > /dev/null 2>&1 [import_mplayer.so] tcextract -i ./stream.yuv -x yv12 -t yuv4mpeg [export_ffmpeg.so] Using FFMPEG codec 'mpeg2video' (FourCC 'mpg2', MPEG2 compliant video). [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Selected dvd profile, pal/secam video type for video [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Set interlacing to top-first [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Set frame rate to 25 [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Set video bitrate to 5000 [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Set GOP size to 15 [export_ffmpeg.so] Neither './ffmpeg.cfg' nor '~/.transcode/ffmpeg.cfg' [export_ffmpeg.so] found. Default settings will be used instead. [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Starting 1 thread(s) [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Display aspect ratio calculated as 1.777778 [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Sample aspect ratio calculated as 1.422222 [mpeg2video @ 0x2aaaadf66b40]removing common factors from framerate tc_memcpy: using amd64 for memcpy Segmentation fault Any ideas? Regards._ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 2 21:59:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A33126D85 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 21:59:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j82JrgRd026810; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 21:53:43 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j82JrdRd026791 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 21:53:40 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j82JrXSd018848 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:53:33 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j82JrWdM018847 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:53:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:53:32 -0700 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode-users@exit1.org Message-ID: <20050902195332.GA18326@webserver> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] just when I got a handle on hqdn3d... X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Just as I was thinking to myself "Phil, you really got a handle on that hqdn3d thing", I built the current cvs versions of ffmpeg, mplayer/mencoder, and transcode... and now I have access to the mysterious lavc option "nr". Now, I will not claim to understand the interdependence of the various arguments to the hqdn3d filter (except that using pre=1 always makes everything green), I do believe that each of the arguments does SOMETHING. But, "nr" has only one argument... and it's bounds are 0-100000, and "400" is supposed to be the cats pajamas for live action... but, just what the hell does this number MEAN? And, if 400 is a reasonable value, can 100000 be meaningful at all? I would ask this in the mencoder forum, where they talk about it a lot, but after reviewing several hundred references to it there, I am convinced nobody there knows what the hell it means either. But everybody there seems to believe it is THE ANSWER... regardless of the question. Since "nr" resides very happily in an ffmpeg.conf file for a Transcode session, this is very much ON-TOPIC, and it may be a very important option for transcoding, offering very cheap (in terms of clock cycles) noise reduction. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sat Sep 3 12:08:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D85A126D8F for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 12:08:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j83A26Rd030410; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 12:02:06 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j83A24Rd030394 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 12:02:04 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 0912A14340BD; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 12:02:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 673BE43C0C5; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 12:01:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] just when I got a handle on hqdn3d... From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20050902195332.GA18326@webserver> References: <20050902195332.GA18326@webserver> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-rG4lp4swleefLjZBGLIo" Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:01:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1125741686.7351.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-91.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-rG4lp4swleefLjZBGLIo Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 12:53 -0700, Phil Ehrens wrote: > But, "nr" has only one argument... and it's bounds are > 0-100000, and "400" is supposed to be the cats pajamas > for live action... but, just what the hell does this > number MEAN? And, if 400 is a reasonable value, can 100000 > be meaningful at all? >=20 > I would ask this in the mencoder forum, where they talk > about it a lot, but after reviewing several hundred references > to it there, I am convinced nobody there knows what the > hell it means either. But everybody there seems to believe > it is THE ANSWER... regardless of the question. >=20 > Since "nr" resides very happily in an ffmpeg.conf file for > a Transcode session, this is very much ON-TOPIC, and it may > be a very important option for transcoding, offering very > cheap (in terms of clock cycles) noise reduction. :-) About a year ago I was in the same state of mind and had a "look at the source, Luke!" And now I now (or, better, pretend ;-)). This option "nr" works fundamentally different from denoise3d or hqdn3d. It is not so much a filter as more an option to the encoder (so I guess it won't work with just every codec). It basically says, drop components with frequencies above x and do not encode them. In theory this means your lowering the frequency. In practise, though, it appears that the highest frequency components are actually noise, most of the time. So, if you use it carefully, you can strip some (!) noise at no extra cost. You will need to keep using the real denoise filters for the bulk of the noise. To find out what value to use, I'd recommend to experiment. At higher levels, you'll start to see blockyness (no-one told you that, right!), and you will have to step back some. 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Message-ID: <20050904180103.GA31186@webserver> References: <20050902195332.GA18326@webserver> <1125741686.7351.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1125741686.7351.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter wrote: > On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 12:53 -0700, Phil Ehrens wrote: > > > But, "nr" has only one argument... and it's bounds are > > 0-100000, and "400" is supposed to be the cats pajamas > > for live action... but, just what the hell does this > > number MEAN? And, if 400 is a reasonable value, can 100000 > > be meaningful at all? > > > > This option "nr" works fundamentally different from denoise3d or hqdn3d. > It is not so much a filter as more an option to the encoder (so I guess > it won't work with just every codec). It basically says, drop components > with frequencies above x and do not encode them. In theory this means > your lowering the frequency. In practise, though, it appears that the > highest frequency components are actually noise, most of the time. > > So, if you use it carefully, you can strip some (!) noise at no extra > cost. You will need to keep using the real denoise filters for the bulk > of the noise. > > To find out what value to use, I'd recommend to experiment. At higher > levels, you'll start to see blockyness (no-one told you that, right!), > and you will have to step back some. At lower levels, there is a noticeable softening. Using nr=400, a 30% reduction in output size occurred, but there was a softening of detail visible when viewing the output on the computer screen (no difference detectable on the TV screen, of course). It would be nice if there were a similar filter that took an additional argument telling it what threshhold to use. I would be happy to get the nr effect applied to frames with bitrates > 9000. Alas, it seems to clip peak bitrate even from low bitrate frames. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 4 20:32:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC878126D96 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:32:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j84IT7Rd019878; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:29:07 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j84IT5Rd019859 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:29:05 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 83EDB14340C0; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:29:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 2C7A143C0C5; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:28:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] just when I got a handle on hqdn3d... From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20050904180103.GA31186@webserver> References: <20050902195332.GA18326@webserver> <1125741686.7351.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050904180103.GA31186@webserver> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-pK7cK8cXhcGhvLAus6SG" Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:28:34 +0200 Message-Id: <1125858514.7351.37.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-91.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-pK7cK8cXhcGhvLAus6SG Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 11:01 -0700, Phil Ehrens wrote: > At lower levels, there is a noticeable softening. Using nr=3D400, > a 30% reduction in output size occurred, but there was a softening > of detail visible when viewing the output on the computer screen > (no difference detectable on the TV screen, of course). It would > be nice if there were a similar filter that took an additional > argument telling it what threshhold to use. I would be happy to > get the nr effect applied to frames with bitrates > 9000. Alas, > it seems to clip peak bitrate even from low bitrate frames. Yes indeed, that would be very nice. And indeed it even cuts down low bitrate frames, making blockyness appear :-( I am afraid though that this means some frames have to be encoded twice, so I don't think the devels will be too enthusiastic about it. 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Message-ID: <20050904223001.GA457@webserver> References: <20050902195332.GA18326@webserver> <1125741686.7351.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050904180103.GA31186@webserver> <1125858514.7351.37.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1125858514.7351.37.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter wrote: > On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 11:01 -0700, Phil Ehrens wrote: > > > At lower levels, there is a noticeable softening. Using nr=400, > > a 30% reduction in output size occurred, but there was a softening > > of detail visible when viewing the output on the computer screen > > (no difference detectable on the TV screen, of course). It would > > be nice if there were a similar filter that took an additional > > argument telling it what threshhold to use. I would be happy to > > get the nr effect applied to frames with bitrates > 9000. Alas, > > it seems to clip peak bitrate even from low bitrate frames. > > Yes indeed, that would be very nice. And indeed it even cuts down low > bitrate frames, making blockyness appear :-( I am afraid though that > this means some frames have to be encoded twice, so I don't think the > devels will be too enthusiastic about it. At the moment I still have a > pile of messages from my vacation, but when I'm current again, I will > propose this (and catch the flames ;-)), is that ok? That would be great Erik! I admit to being far from flameproof, flamage still gets to me. You need some pretty thick flameproof armor to go onto some lists these days. I have to preserve my flame resistant underwear for use at work ;^) Phil From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Sep 6 00:17:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D34126D89 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 00:17:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j85MCURd010130; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 00:12:30 +0200 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.201]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j85MCQRd010115 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 00:12:28 +0200 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so914149wxd for ; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:12:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=s52OQs9aqPE/JG45SOxKtmc0KXRuVQsG6UNRr/qA9ERXa7ZG4vkE3Tk90CkZ877OZx+3Pcg9JLmJfZPu2tLjg0wW8AdJz0pB/6JEIho7mXiR/XXY3uCQvxa9afeHsVMMBb3ffJd/G2J25pO9Tvtei9BCYqLCfMh+c6oHsxu+mRk= Received: by 10.70.69.19 with SMTP id r19mr81140wxa; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.103.3 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 15:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 15:12:21 -0700 From: JCA <1.41421@gmail.com> To: transcode-users@exit1.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11299_30868419.1125958341486" X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, HTML_00_10, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_BY_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] avisplit segfaults X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: 1.41421@gmail.com, transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org ------=_Part_11299_30868419.1125958341486 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I am using transcode 1.0.0, and avisplit is segfaulting on me. It seems to= =20 be able to split an input AVI file all right, until the last portion is=20 reached. At this point, avisplit segfaults and the last chunk it was workin= g=20 on when it crashed does not seem to be any good. I was having a look in the= =20 archives, and one posting seem to imply that this problem would be sorted= =20 out for release 1.0.0. Anybody know if it is fixed in the CVS repository? ------=_Part_11299_30868419.1125958341486 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline   I am using transcode 1.0.0, and avisplit is segfaulting on me. It seems to be able to split an input AVI file all right, until the last portion is reached. At this point, avisplit segfaults and the last chunk it was working on when it crashed does not seem to be any good. I was having a look in the archives, and one posting seem to imply that this problem would be sorted out for release 1.0.0. Anybody know if it is fixed in the CVS repository?


------=_Part_11299_30868419.1125958341486-- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Sep 6 00:32:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31667126D95 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 00:32:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j85MUVRd010803; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 00:30:31 +0200 Received: from tamu-relay.tamu.edu (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [165.91.143.199]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j85MHcRd010343 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 00:17:38 +0200 Received: from ocean.tamu.edu (ocean.tamu.edu [128.194.106.0]) by tamu-relay.tamu.edu (8.13.3/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j85MHZG7024028 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 17:17:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from holcombe2.tamu.edu by ocean.tamu.edu (8.8.8/1.1.20.8/03Jan00-0653AM) id RAA0000435738; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 17:17:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 22:17:04 +0000 From: Leigh Holcombe To: transcode Users Mailing List X-Mailer: Balsa 2.3.3 Message-Id: <1125958624l.11734l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Received-SPF: pass (tamu-relay.tamu.edu: 128.194.106.0 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id j85MHcRd010343 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] header issues cause failure X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org I was attempting to transcode a video today, with very little success. Here is the output from tcprobe and transcode. I think the key is probably "[mpeg4 @ 0x7c4e30]header damaged". Is there any way to repair the header? Mencoder does not like this file at all! And mpgtx didn't like it much either. [lholcombe@holcombe2 films]$ tcprobe -i assdel3.avi [tcprobe] RIFF data, AVI video [avilib] V: 29.970 fps, codec=XVID, frames=233676, width=720, height=480 [avilib] A: 44100 Hz, format=0x55, bits=0, channels=2, bitrate=160 kbps, [avilib] 233676 chunks, 155939574 bytes, CBR [tcprobe] summary for assdel3.avi, (*) = not default, 0 = not detected import frame size: -g 720x480 [720x576] (*) frame rate: -f 29.970 [25.000] frc=4 (*) audio track: -a 0 [0] -e 44100,0,2 [48000,16,2] -n 0x55 [0x2000] (*) bitrate=160 kbps length: 233676 frames, frame_time=33 msec, duration=2:09:56.996 [lholcombe@holcombe2 films]$ transcode -i assdel3.avi -y ffmpeg -w6000 --export_prof dvd-ntsc --export_asr 3 -o assdel3 -D0 -s2 -m assdel3.ac3 -J modfps --export_fps 29.97 transcode v1.0.0 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD access libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO. [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms [transcode] auto-probing source assdel3.avi (ok) [transcode] V: import format | XviD RIFF data, AVI (V=ffmpeg|A=mp3) [transcode] V: import frame | 720x480 1.50:1 XXX: zoom=no pre_clip=yes [transcode] V: pre clip frame | 720x360 (60,0,60,0) [transcode] V: bits/pixel | 0.772 [transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 29.970,4 [transcode] V: Y'CbCr | YV12/I420 [transcode] A: import format | 0x55 MPEG layer-3 [44100,16,2] 160 kbps [transcode] A: export format | 0x55 MPEG layer-3 [44100,16,2] 128 kbps [transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 29.970,4 [transcode] A: bytes per frame | 5884 (5885.880000) [transcode] A: adjustment | 1880@1000 [transcode] A: rescale stream | 2.000 [transcode] V: IA32/AMD64 accel | sse3 (sse3 sse2 sse mmxext mmx asm C) tc_memcpy: using sse for memcpy [transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x480 [import_mp3.so] v0.1.4 (2003-08-04) (audio) MPEG [import_ffmpeg.so] v0.1.12 (2004-05-07) (video) ffmpeg: MS MPEG4v1-3/MPEG4/MJPEG [filter_modfps.so] v0.10 (2003-08-18) plugin to modify framerate [filter_modfps.so] converting from 29.9700fps to 29.9700fps [filter_modfps.so] No framerate conversion requested, exiting [transcode] warning : filter plugin 'modfps' returned error - plugin skipped [export_ffmpeg.so] v0.3.13 (2004-08-03) (video) FFmpeg0.4.9-pre1b4730 | (audio) MPEG/AC3/PCM [import_mp3.so] MP3->PCM [import_mp3.so] tcextract -a 0 -i "assdel3.avi" -x mp3 -d 0 | tcdecode -x mp3 -d 0 -z 20000 tc_memcpy: using sse for memcpy [export_ffmpeg.so] Using FFMPEG codec 'mpeg2video' (FourCC 'mpg2', MPEG2 compliant video). [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Selected dvd profile, ntsc video type for video [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Set interlacing to bottom-first [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Set frame rate to 29.97 [export_ffmpeg.so]: WARNING: Y resolution is not 576, 480, 288 or 240 as required [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Set GOP size to 18 [export_ffmpeg.so] Neither './ffmpeg.cfg' nor '~/.transcode/ffmpeg.cfg' [export_ffmpeg.so] found. Default settings will be used instead. [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Starting 1 thread(s) [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Display aspect ratio calculated as 1.777778 [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Sample aspect ratio calculated as 0.888889 [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Selected dvd profile for audio [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Resampling filter inactive [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Set number of audio channels to 2 [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Set number of audio bits to 16 [export_ffmpeg.so]: WARNING: Set audio sample rate to 48000 Hz, input rate is 44100 Hz [export_ffmpeg.so]: WARNING: loading resample plugin [filter.c] Filter "resample" with args (resample) [filter.c] Filter "resample" not loaded. Loading ... [filter.c] Loading (resample) .. [filter_resample.so] v0.1.4 (2003-08-22) audio resampling filter plugin [filter_resample.so] options=(null) [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Set audio bit rate to 224 kbps [export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Set audio codec to ac3 [mpeg4 @ 0x7c4e30]header damaged [transcode] warning : [import_ffmpeg.so] frame decoding failed clean up | frame threads | unload modules | cancel signal | internal threads | done [transcode] encoded 0 frames (0 dropped, 0 cloned), clip length 0.00 s -- Leigh Holcombe Department of Oceanography Texas A&M University From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Sep 6 11:46:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7615126D96 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:46:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j869eqRd008950; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:40:52 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j869c0Rd008740 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:38:02 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 60DEA14340BE; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:37:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 28FB643C0C5; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:37:21 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] header issues cause failure From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <1125958624l.11734l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> References: <1125958624l.11734l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-gIrR8uMgKaA1+aVQCqy8" Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:37:20 +0200 Message-Id: <1125999441.30156.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-91.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-gIrR8uMgKaA1+aVQCqy8 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 22:17 +0000, Leigh Holcombe wrote: > I was attempting to transcode a video today, with very little success. =20 > Here is the output from tcprobe and transcode. I think the key is =20 > probably "[mpeg4 @ 0x7c4e30]header damaged". Is there any way to =20 > repair the header? Mencoder does not like this file at all! And mpgtx =20 > didn't like it much either. I'm sorry, but damaged =3D damaged. I fact, this file is probably not damaged at all, but encoded by an ehrm.... non-compliant encoder (divx comes to my mind...). 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Tue, 6 Sep 2005 22:46:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j86KgFRd013117; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 22:42:15 +0200 Received: from tamu-relay.tamu.edu (smtp-relay.TAMU.EDU [165.91.143.199]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j86KgDRd013102 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 22:42:13 +0200 Received: from ocean.tamu.edu (ocean.tamu.edu [128.194.106.0]) by tamu-relay.tamu.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j86KgmaE067256 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:42:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lholcombe@ocean.tamu.edu) Received: from holcombe2.tamu.edu by ocean.tamu.edu (8.8.8/1.1.20.8/03Jan00-0653AM) id PAA0000441959; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 20:41:38 +0000 From: Leigh Holcombe Subject: Re: [transcode-users] header issues cause failure To: transcode Users Mailing List References: <1125958624l.11734l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> <1125999441.30156.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1125999441.30156.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> (from erik@slagter.name on Tue Sep 6 04:37:20 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.3.3 Message-Id: <1126039298l.12277l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id j86KgDRd013102 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On 09/06/2005 04:37:20 AM, Erik Slagter wrote: > On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 22:17 +0000, Leigh Holcombe wrote: > > I was attempting to transcode a video today, with very little > success. > > Here is the output from tcprobe and transcode. I think the key is > > probably "[mpeg4 @ 0x7c4e30]header damaged". Is there any way to > > repair the header? Mencoder does not like this file at all! And > mpgtx > > didn't like it much either. > > I'm sorry, but damaged = damaged. > > I fact, this file is probably not damaged at all, but encoded by an > ehrm.... non-compliant encoder (divx comes to my mind...). I bet the > file comes from a p2p network, right? > Bittorrent, same difference. If it was a Windows problem, that would be fantastic, because Windows problem = bitch material. Oddly, the movie plays well enough in mplayer - the file must not be /that/ damaged... -- Leigh Holcombe Department of Oceanography Texas A&M University From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Sep 7 09:55:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047A9126D89 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:55:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j877pgRd009181; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:51:42 +0200 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j877peRd009165 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:51:40 +0200 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Sep 2005 07:51:35 -0000 Received: from 212-62-89-16.teleos-web.de (EHLO work.holtkamp.priv) [212.62.89.16] by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 07 Sep 2005 09:51:35 +0200 X-Authenticated: #810257 Received: from maik by work.holtkamp.priv with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ECuiV-00015m-00 for ; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 09:51:35 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:51:35 +0200 From: Maik Holtkamp To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] header issues cause failure Message-ID: <20050907075135.GA4177@holtkamp.priv> Mail-Followup-To: transcode Users Mailing List References: <1125958624l.11734l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> <1125999441.30156.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1126039298l.12277l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1126039298l.12277l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-PGP-Fingerprint: 868E 75E0 3FF1 A5F7 7036 41B1 D019 F5EF 9027 AB88 X-ICQ: 106425684 X-IRC: m707 X-message-flag: Outlook is a breeding ground for viruses. See http://cws.internet.com/mail.html for alternatives X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, 0n 05/09/06@20:41 Leigh Holcombe told me: >=20 > On 09/06/2005 04:37:20 AM, Erik Slagter wrote: > >On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 22:17 +0000, Leigh Holcombe wrote: > >> I was attempting to transcode a video today, with very little > >success. > >> Here is the output from tcprobe and transcode. I think the key is > >> probably "[mpeg4 @ 0x7c4e30]header damaged". Is there any way to > >> repair the header? Mencoder does not like this file at all! And > >mpgtx > >> didn't like it much either. > > > >I'm sorry, but damaged =3D damaged. > > > >I fact, this file is probably not damaged at all, but encoded by an > >ehrm.... non-compliant encoder (divx comes to my mind...). I bet the > >file comes from a p2p network, right? > > > Bittorrent, same difference. If it was a Windows problem, that would =20 > be fantastic, because Windows problem =3D bitch material. >=20 > Oddly, the movie plays well enough in mplayer - the file must not be =20 > /that/ damaged... If it's playable using mplayer, it is probably worth a trial to dump[audio|video] using mplayer and try to remux using avidemux. --=20 bye maik --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Weitere Infos: siehe http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkMenAYACgkQ0Bn175Anq4gr6gCgiL3N3E6ulHYjo/Ohugvcl0rU GeYAnj0bJkD1gteXeeLwB8yM0BTG2iLb =HHf0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Sep 7 10:34:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5480126D91 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:34:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j878VIRd011270; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:31:18 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j878VGRd011255 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:31:16 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id D7BDD14340BF; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:31:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 7038343C0C5; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:30:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] header issues cause failure From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <1126039298l.12277l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> References: <1125958624l.11734l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> <1125999441.30156.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1126039298l.12277l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-5qol1qVEcdp4rdYzlneQ" Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 10:30:30 +0200 Message-Id: <1126081830.19250.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-91.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-5qol1qVEcdp4rdYzlneQ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 20:41 +0000, Leigh Holcombe wrote: > > I'm sorry, but damaged =3D damaged. =20 > > I fact, this file is probably not damaged at all, but encoded by an > > ehrm.... non-compliant encoder (divx comes to my mind...). I bet the > > file comes from a p2p network, right? =20 > Bittorrent, same difference. Same problem. The network is not the problem, it's encoder. > Oddly, the movie plays well enough in mplayer - the file must not be =20 > /that/ damaged... Mplayer is very good at concealing errors. 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User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List References: <4282ca4d.51561@msgid.achurch.org> <1115898444.3033.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1115898444.3033.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: converting png into raw dv video X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Kall, Bruce A." , transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org I have been using the following command wtih transcode 0.6.12 for quite some time to convert a single png file into a raw dv file that runs about 3 seconds: transcode -i video_title.png -x im -y dvraw -o out.dv -c 0-90 -k -z --export_asr 2 --export_fps 29.97 -N 0x1 -g 720x480 > transcode -i video_title.png -x im -y dvraw -o out.dv -c 0-90 -k -z --export_asr 2 --export_fps 29.97 -N 0x1 -g 720x480 > transcode v0.6.12 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg > [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms > [transcode] auto-probing source video_title.png (ok) > [transcode] V: import format | RGB/BGR PNG image (V=im|A=null) > [transcode] V: import frame | 720x480 1.50:1 > [transcode] V: flip frame | yes > [transcode] V: rgb2bgr | yes > [transcode] V: bits/pixel | 5.208 > [transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 1.000,0 > [transcode] A: import format | 0x2001 AC3/A52 [ 0,16,0] > [transcode] A: export format | 0x1 PCM [ 0,16,0] 0 kbps > [transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 29.970,4 > [transcode] A: bytes per frame | 0 (0.000000) > [transcode] A: adjustment | 0@1000 > [transcode] V: IA32 accel mode | sse2 (sse2 sse mmxext mmx asm) > [transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x480 > [import_null.so] v0.2.0 (2002-01-19) (video) null | (audio) null > [import_im.so] v0.0.4 (2003-09-15) (video) RGB > [export_dvraw.so] v0.4 (2003-10-14) (video) Digital Video | (audio) PCM > Regex match failed: no image sequence > encoding frame [89], 11.10 fps, 100.0%, ETA: 0:00:00, ( 0| 0| 0) > clean up | frame threads | unload modules | cancel signal | internal threads | done > [transcode] encoded 90 frames (0 dropped, 0 cloned), clip length 90.00 s I just upgraded to transcode 1.0 and while it acts like it works, all I end up with is a zero length out.dv file. Here is the output (after adding the --use_rgb needed in transcode 1.0): transcode -i video_title.png -x im -y dvraw -o out.dv -c 0-90 -k -z --export_asr 2 --export_fps 29.97 -N 0x1 -g 720x480 --use_rgb transcode v1.0.0 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO. [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms [transcode] auto-probing source video_title.png (ok) [transcode] V: import format | RGB/BGR PNG image (V=im|A=null) [transcode] V: import frame | 720x480 1.50:1 [transcode] V: flip frame | yes [transcode] V: rgb2bgr | yes [transcode] V: bits/pixel | 5.208 [transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 1.000,0 [transcode] A: import | disabled [transcode] A: export | disabled [transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 29.970,4 [transcode] A: bytes per frame | 0 (0.000000) [transcode] A: adjustment | 0@1000 [transcode] V: IA32/AMD64 accel | sse3 (sse3 sse2 sse mmxext mmx asm C) tc_memcpy: using sse for memcpy [transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x480 [import_null.so] v0.2.0 (2002-01-19) (video) null | (audio) null [import_im.so] v0.0.4 (2003-09-15) (video) RGB [export_null.so] v0.1.2 (2001-08-17) (video) null | (audio) null [export_dvraw.so] v0.4 (2003-10-14) (video) Digital Video | (audio) PCM Regex match failed: no image sequence encoding frame [89], 13.26 fps, 100.0%, ETA: 0:00:00, ( 0| 0| 0) clean up | frame threads | unload modules | cancel signal | internal threads | done [transcode] encoded 90 frames (0 dropped, 0 cloned), clip length 90.00 s Any suggestions on what is going wrong? Thanks, Bruce From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Sep 8 01:17:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FCE126D91 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 01:17:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j87NE2Rd027877; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 01:14:02 +0200 Received: from fscked.org (c-67-188-96-111.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.96.111]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j87NDtRd027813 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 01:14:00 +0200 Received: from mikepery by fscked.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ED96a-0003Lh-8R; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 18:13:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 18:13:24 -0500 From: Mike Perry To: atrpms-users@atrpms.net, transcode-users@exit1.org Message-ID: <20050907231324.GA18181@fscked.org> References: <20050902064930.GA11975@fscked.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050902064930.GA11975@fscked.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Cc: Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Transcode+ffmpeg producing out of sync audio X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thus spake Mike Perry (mikepery@fscked.org): > Using transcode-1.0.0-18.rhfc4.at and > ffmpeg-0.4.9-10_cvs20050612.rhfc4.at, I'm getting out of sync audio on > both xvid4 and ffmpeg/mpeg4 streams. I'm using the perl-Video-DVDRip > package to call transcode for me. > > It's about a half-second mismatch in sync, most easily noticable when > observing dialog. The audio is leading the video. It seems to get > slightly worse the further you get into the avi. Ok, I've done a considerable amount of testing, and no matter what I try the sync issue persists. I've tried doing 1400mb, 128kbps mp3, and have also tried using the official Windows DivX player on a different computer to play the avi to rule out mplayer (and also tried mplayer's -noaspect flag to prevent rescaling). I've also tried a couple of different movies, all to the same effect. I've also tried changing --accel 3dnow to --accel mmx. Nothing seems to fix the sync issue. Is there a lack of replies because no one else is having this problem, or because no one else on atrpms is using dvdrip/transcode? Am I the first one to successfully get transcode/dvdrip to run properly? I did have one heck of a time fighting dependencies between the repos... If someone is able to transcode vob files without an audio sync delay, could you please paste your transcode command so I could give it a shot? Thanks, -- Mike Perry Mad Computer Scientist fscked.org evil labs From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Sep 8 04:06:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBF1126D89 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 04:06:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8823JRd000447; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 04:03:19 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88239Rd000428 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 04:03:11 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j88232El000961 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 19:03:02 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id j88232k3000960 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 19:03:02 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 19:03:01 -0700 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Transcode+ffmpeg producing out of sync audio Message-ID: <20050908020301.GA941@t22> References: <20050902064930.GA11975@fscked.org> <20050907231324.GA18181@fscked.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050907231324.GA18181@fscked.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mike Perry wrote: > > If someone is able to transcode vob files without an audio sync > delay, could you please paste your transcode command so I could give > it a shot? Hi Mike, Sync issues are usually caused by improper sensing of the source material. Probably something about your source is defeating the auto-detection. I always rip dvd's using mencoder: mencoder -oac copy \ -ovc lavc \ -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:mbd=2:nr=200:autoaspect:v4mv:trell:vpass=1:vbitrate=1800 \ -ofps 24000/1001 \ -alang jp \ -sid 0 \ -o /dev/null dvd://3 mencoder -oac copy \ -ovc lavc \ -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:mbd=2:nr=200:autoaspect:v4mv:trell:vpass=2:vbitrate=1800 \ -ofps 24000/1001 \ -alang jp \ -sid 0 \ -o eriks-nasty-hentai.avi dvd://3 >& /dev/null This seems to work for pretty much everything. Except of course the dialogue will always be in Japanese if you don't fiddle with it a bit. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Sep 8 12:39:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B72126D8B for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:39:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88AV8Rd027688; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:31:08 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88AV6Rd027672 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:31:06 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id A512114340BF; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:31:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 90AA543C0C5; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:30:41 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: converting png into raw dv video From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List , "Kall, Bruce A." In-Reply-To: <431F39E0.5080001@mayo.edu> References: <4282ca4d.51561@msgid.achurch.org> <1115898444.3033.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <431F39E0.5080001@mayo.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-3I/bGw6E2b2a5cq8b94Y" Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:30:41 +0200 Message-Id: <1126175441.24699.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-91.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Cc: X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-3I/bGw6E2b2a5cq8b94Y Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 14:05 -0500, Kall, Bruce A. wrote: > Regex match failed: no image sequence ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --=-3I/bGw6E2b2a5cq8b94Y Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; 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Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:40:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88AbvRd028173; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:37:57 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88AW5Rd027739 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:32:05 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 9C51114340BF; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:32:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id CFB0D43C0C5; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:31:52 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Transcode+ffmpeg producing out of sync audio From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20050907231324.GA18181@fscked.org> References: <20050902064930.GA11975@fscked.org> <20050907231324.GA18181@fscked.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-XaOIRd4T862Br9P8aBrI" Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:31:52 +0200 Message-Id: <1126175512.24699.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-91.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-XaOIRd4T862Br9P8aBrI Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 18:13 -0500, Mike Perry wrote: > Is there a lack of replies because no one else is having this problem, IIRC I did reply. --=-XaOIRd4T862Br9P8aBrI Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; 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Thu, 8 Sep 2005 15:07:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88D44Rd005502; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 15:04:04 +0200 Received: from mail1.mayo.edu (mail1.mayo.edu [129.176.212.12]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88D40Rd005472 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 15:04:01 +0200 Received: from mhro1a.mayo.edu (129.176.212.53) by mail1.mayo.edu with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2005 08:03:59 -0500 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Received: from [129.176.102.8] ([129.176.102.8] [129.176.102.8]) by mhro1a.mayo.edu with ESMTP for transcode-users@exit1.org; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 08:03:59 -0500 Message-Id: <432036BF.4070207@mayo.edu> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 08:03:59 -0500 From: "Kall, Bruce A." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List References: <4282ca4d.51561@msgid.achurch.org> <1115898444.3033.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <431F39E0.5080001@mayo.edu> In-Reply-To: <431F39E0.5080001@mayo.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: FIXED: converting png into raw dv video X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Kall, Bruce A." , transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org As per my previous email, I started having trouble converting a png file into a short DV file when I moved from transcode 0.6.12 to 1.0. This is the fix for 1.0. Not sure why this fixes the problem nor why it occurs. DOES NOT WORK (but did in 0.6.12) transcode -i video_title.png -x im -y dvraw -o out.dv -c 0-90 -k -z --export_asr 2 --export_fps 29.97 -N 0x1 -g 720x480 --use_rgb DOES NOT WORK: transcode -i video_title.png -x im,null -y dvraw,null -o out.dv -c 0-90 -k -z --export_asr 2 --export_fps 29.97 -N 0x1 -g 720x480 THIS WORKS!!!! transcode -i video_title.png -x im,null -y dvraw -o out.dv -c 0-90 -k -z --export_asr 2 --export_fps 29.97 -N 0x1 -g 720x480 This gets message about 'impossible frequencies' (pngs don't have any audio anyway), but does produce the right .dv file from the png. Anybody have any thoughts on why transcode only works when you have -x im,null -y dvraw (and not "-x im -y dvraw" NOR "-x im,null -y dvraw,nul") Bruce > I have been using the following command wtih transcode 0.6.12 for quite > some time to convert a single png file into a raw dv file that runs > about 3 seconds: > > transcode -i video_title.png -x im -y dvraw -o out.dv -c 0-90 -k -z > --export_asr 2 --export_fps 29.97 -N 0x1 -g 720x480 > >> transcode -i video_title.png -x im -y dvraw -o out.dv -c 0-90 -k -z >> --export_asr 2 --export_fps 29.97 -N 0x1 -g 720x480 >> transcode v0.6.12 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg >> [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms >> [transcode] auto-probing source video_title.png (ok) >> [transcode] V: import format | RGB/BGR PNG image (V=im|A=null) >> [transcode] V: import frame | 720x480 1.50:1 >> [transcode] V: flip frame | yes >> [transcode] V: rgb2bgr | yes >> [transcode] V: bits/pixel | 5.208 >> [transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 1.000,0 >> [transcode] A: import format | 0x2001 AC3/A52 [ 0,16,0] >> [transcode] A: export format | 0x1 PCM [ 0,16,0] >> 0 kbps >> [transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 29.970,4 >> [transcode] A: bytes per frame | 0 (0.000000) >> [transcode] A: adjustment | 0@1000 >> [transcode] V: IA32 accel mode | sse2 (sse2 sse mmxext mmx asm) >> [transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x480 >> [import_null.so] v0.2.0 (2002-01-19) (video) null | (audio) null >> [import_im.so] v0.0.4 (2003-09-15) (video) RGB >> [export_dvraw.so] v0.4 (2003-10-14) (video) Digital Video | (audio) PCM >> Regex match failed: no image sequence >> encoding frame [89], 11.10 fps, 100.0%, ETA: 0:00:00, ( 0| 0| 0) >> clean up | frame threads | unload modules | cancel signal | internal >> threads | done >> [transcode] encoded 90 frames (0 dropped, 0 cloned), clip length 90.00 s > > > > I just upgraded to transcode 1.0 and while it acts like it works, all I > end up with is a zero length out.dv file. Here is the output (after > adding the --use_rgb needed in transcode 1.0): > > > transcode -i video_title.png -x im -y dvraw -o out.dv -c 0-90 -k -z > --export_asr 2 --export_fps 29.97 -N 0x1 -g 720x480 --use_rgb > transcode v1.0.0 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg > libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access > libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO. > [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms > [transcode] auto-probing source video_title.png (ok) > [transcode] V: import format | RGB/BGR PNG image (V=im|A=null) > [transcode] V: import frame | 720x480 1.50:1 > [transcode] V: flip frame | yes > [transcode] V: rgb2bgr | yes > [transcode] V: bits/pixel | 5.208 > [transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 1.000,0 > [transcode] A: import | disabled > [transcode] A: export | disabled > [transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 29.970,4 > [transcode] A: bytes per frame | 0 (0.000000) > [transcode] A: adjustment | 0@1000 > [transcode] V: IA32/AMD64 accel | sse3 (sse3 sse2 sse mmxext mmx asm C) > tc_memcpy: using sse for memcpy > [transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x480 > [import_null.so] v0.2.0 (2002-01-19) (video) null | (audio) null > [import_im.so] v0.0.4 (2003-09-15) (video) RGB > [export_null.so] v0.1.2 (2001-08-17) (video) null | (audio) null > [export_dvraw.so] v0.4 (2003-10-14) (video) Digital Video | (audio) PCM > Regex match failed: no image sequence > encoding frame [89], 13.26 fps, 100.0%, ETA: 0:00:00, ( 0| 0| 0) > clean up | frame threads | unload modules | cancel signal | internal > threads | done > [transcode] encoded 90 frames (0 dropped, 0 cloned), clip length 90.00 s > > > Any suggestions on what is going wrong? > > Thanks, > Bruce > From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Sep 8 20:08:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4279F126D8B for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:08:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88I4jRd023605; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:04:45 +0200 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.198.43]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88I4eRd023574 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:04:41 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.30] (c-24-13-50-214.hsd1.il.comcast.net[24.13.50.214]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005090818042801400asl34e>; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:04:33 +0000 Message-ID: <43207E37.9070803@personnelware.com> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:08:55 -0500 From: Carl Karsten User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] any2vob mia X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Anyone have the any2vob script that is normally here: http://mightylegends.zapto.org/dvd/ Or, something that will help me make a DVD from [tcprobe] RIFF data, AVI video [avilib] V: 29.970 fps, codec=XVID, frames=20735, width=512, height=384 [avilib] A: 44100 Hz, format=0x55, bits=0, channels=2, bitrate=110 kbps, [avilib] 26485 chunks, 9568329 bytes, VBR [tcprobe] summary for leprauchpolis.avi, (*) = not default, 0 = not detected import frame size: -g 512x384 [720x576] (*) frame rate: -f 29.970 [25.000] frc=4 (*) audio track: -a 0 [0] -e 44100,0,2 [48000,16,2] -n 0x55 [0x2000] (*) bitrate=110 kbps length: 20735 frames, frame_time=33 msec, duration=0:11:31.858 Carl K From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Sep 8 20:30:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D6E126D8B for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:30:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88IRwRd024877; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:27:58 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88IRtRd024860 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:27:56 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j88IRnVX026417 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 11:27:49 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j88IRn1q026416 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 11:27:49 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 11:27:49 -0700 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] any2vob mia Message-ID: <20050908182749.GA26132@webserver> References: <43207E37.9070803@personnelware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43207E37.9070803@personnelware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Carl Karsten wrote: > Anyone have the any2vob script that is normally here: > http://mightylegends.zapto.org/dvd/ > > Or, something that will help me make a DVD from > > [tcprobe] RIFF data, AVI video > [avilib] V: 29.970 fps, codec=XVID, frames=20735, width=512, height=384 > [avilib] A: 44100 Hz, format=0x55, bits=0, channels=2, bitrate=110 kbps, > [avilib] 26485 chunks, 9568329 bytes, VBR > [tcprobe] summary for leprauchpolis.avi, (*) = not default, 0 = not detected > import frame size: -g 512x384 [720x576] (*) > frame rate: -f 29.970 [25.000] frc=4 (*) > audio track: -a 0 [0] -e 44100,0,2 [48000,16,2] -n 0x55 [0x2000] (*) > bitrate=110 kbps > length: 20735 frames, frame_time=33 msec, duration=0:11:31.858 If you mean for an NTSC dvd, you can use: http://inferno.slug.org/cgi-bin/wiki?AviToVob From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Sep 8 20:57:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDF7126D82 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:57:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88IsoRd026257; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:54:50 +0200 Received: from tamu-relay.tamu.edu (smtp-relay.TAMU.EDU [165.91.143.199]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88IsmRd026240 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:54:49 +0200 Received: from ocean.tamu.edu (ocean.tamu.edu [128.194.106.0]) by tamu-relay.tamu.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j88Itd3e005039 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 13:55:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lholcombe@ocean.tamu.edu) Received: from holcombe2.tamu.edu by ocean.tamu.edu (8.8.8/1.1.20.8/03Jan00-0653AM) id NAA0000491493; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 13:54:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:54:16 +0000 From: Leigh Holcombe Subject: Re: [transcode-users] header issues cause failure To: transcode Users Mailing List References: <1125958624l.11734l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> <1125999441.30156.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1126039298l.12277l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> <1126081830.19250.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1126081830.19250.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> (from erik@slagter.name on Wed Sep 7 03:30:30 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.3.3 Message-Id: <1126205656l.14637l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id j88IsmRd026240 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On 09/07/2005 03:30:30 AM, Erik Slagter wrote: > On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 20:41 +0000, Leigh Holcombe wrote: > > > > I'm sorry, but damaged = damaged. > > > > I fact, this file is probably not damaged at all, but encoded by > an > > > ehrm.... non-compliant encoder (divx comes to my mind...). I bet > the > > > file comes from a p2p network, right? > > > Bittorrent, same difference. > > Same problem. The network is not the problem, it's encoder. > > > Oddly, the movie plays well enough in mplayer - the file must not be > > > /that/ damaged... > > Mplayer is very good at concealing errors. This means you are lucky, > you > can use the mplayer import plugin! > Feeding the movie to transcode thru mplayer worked well. The following command produced great results: transcode -i assdel3.avi -x mplayer,mplayer -y ffmpeg --export_prof dvd-ntsc --export_asr 3 -o assdel3 -D0 -s2 -m assdel3.ac3 -J modfps --export_fps 29.97 (my network has firewalled bittorrent ports at the router since then, so I guess I won't ever be having this problem again) -- Leigh Holcombe Department of Oceanography Texas A&M University From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Sep 8 21:44:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2706126D82 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:44:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88JgLRd028647; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:42:21 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88JgJRd028619 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:42:19 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j88JgDs9026832 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:42:13 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j88JgCmd026831 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:42:12 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:42:12 -0700 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] header issues cause failure Message-ID: <20050908194212.GB26132@webserver> References: <1125958624l.11734l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> <1125999441.30156.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1126039298l.12277l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> <1126081830.19250.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1126205656l.14637l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1126205656l.14637l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Leigh Holcombe wrote: > > (my network has firewalled bittorrent ports at the router since then, > so I guess I won't ever be having this problem again) > Nonsense! --minport and --maxport are your friends. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 00:05:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F39126D82 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:05:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88M21Rd002754; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:02:01 +0200 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88M1xRd002722 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:01:59 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.30] (c-24-13-50-214.hsd1.il.comcast.net[24.13.50.214]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050908220120012002jol3e>; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:01:26 +0000 Message-ID: <4320B5B9.70904@personnelware.com> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:05:45 -0500 From: Carl Karsten User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] any2vob mia References: <43207E37.9070803@personnelware.com> <20050908182749.GA26132@webserver> In-Reply-To: <20050908182749.GA26132@webserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Phil Ehrens wrote: > Carl Karsten wrote: > >>Anyone have the any2vob script that is normally here: >>http://mightylegends.zapto.org/dvd/ >> >>Or, something that will help me make a DVD from >> >>[tcprobe] RIFF data, AVI video >>[avilib] V: 29.970 fps, codec=XVID, frames=20735, width=512, height=384 >>[avilib] A: 44100 Hz, format=0x55, bits=0, channels=2, bitrate=110 kbps, >>[avilib] 26485 chunks, 9568329 bytes, VBR >>[tcprobe] summary for leprauchpolis.avi, (*) = not default, 0 = not detected >>import frame size: -g 512x384 [720x576] (*) >> frame rate: -f 29.970 [25.000] frc=4 (*) >> audio track: -a 0 [0] -e 44100,0,2 [48000,16,2] -n 0x55 [0x2000] (*) >> bitrate=110 kbps >> length: 20735 frames, frame_time=33 msec, duration=0:11:31.858 > > > If you mean for an NTSC dvd, you can use: > > http://inferno.slug.org/cgi-bin/wiki?AviToVob > Neat. I'll give it a shot. don't suppose you know what the minimum config requirements for tc are? ^Carl From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 00:42:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933AE126D82 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:42:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88MdVRd004421; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:39:31 +0200 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [216.148.227.117]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88MdSRd004405 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:39:29 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.30] (c-24-13-50-214.hsd1.il.comcast.net[24.13.50.214]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005090822391701300pqohfe>; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:39:22 +0000 Message-ID: <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:43:42 -0500 From: Carl Karsten User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List References: <43207E37.9070803@personnelware.com> <20050908182749.GA26132@webserver> <4320B5B9.70904@personnelware.com> In-Reply-To: <4320B5B9.70904@personnelware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Trying to get tc to build on a fresh box (ubuntu/debian). Coulcn't figure out what .deb contained libjpeg, so I punted and hoped I didn't need it. the oog/vorbis=no was an attempt to get past the error. transcode-1.0.0$ ./configure --enable-libjpeg=no --enable-ogg=no --enable-vorbis=no $make... gcc -Wall -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g -O2 -o tcdecode tcdecode-tcdecode.o tcdecode-decode_ac3.o tcdecode-decode_mpeg2.o tcdecode-decode_yuv.o tcdecode-fileinfo.o tcdecode-ioaux.o tcdecode-decode_dv.o tcdecode-decode_mp3.o tcdecode-mpg123.o tcdecode-decode_a52.o tcdecode-decode_af6.o tcdecode-scan_dv.o tcdecode-decode_lavc.o tcdecode-decode_xvid.o tcdecode-decode_ogg.o tcdecode-decode_mov.o tcdecode-decode_lzo.o -L/usr/lib -lavcodec -lpthread /usr/lib/libmpeg2.so /usr/lib/libmpeg2convert.so /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so ../libac3/.libs/libac3_tc.a ../libvo/.libs/libvout.a ../aclib/.libs/libac.a ../libtc/.libs/libtc.a -lm -lz -ldl /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(dtsdec.o): In function `dts_decode_frame': : undefined reference to `dts_frame' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(dtsdec.o): In function `dts_decode_frame': : undefined reference to `dts_blocks_num' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(dtsdec.o): In function `dts_decode_frame': : undefined reference to `dts_syncinfo' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(dtsdec.o): In function `dts_decode_frame': : undefined reference to `dts_block' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(dtsdec.o): In function `dts_decode_frame': : undefined reference to `dts_samples' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(dtsdec.o): In function `dts_decode_init': : undefined reference to `dts_init' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_init': : undefined reference to `vorbis_info_init' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_init': : undefined reference to `vorbis_encode_init' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_init': : undefined reference to `vorbis_analysis_init' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_init': : undefined reference to `vorbis_block_init' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_init': : undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_init' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_init': : undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_add_tag' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_init': : undefined reference to `vorbis_analysis_headerout' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_init': : undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_frame': : undefined reference to `vorbis_analysis_buffer' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_frame': : undefined reference to `vorbis_analysis_wrote' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_frame': : undefined reference to `vorbis_analysis_blockout' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_frame': : undefined reference to `vorbis_analysis' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_frame': : undefined reference to `vorbis_bitrate_addblock' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_frame': : undefined reference to `vorbis_bitrate_flushpacket' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_close': : undefined reference to `vorbis_analysis_wrote' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_close': : undefined reference to `vorbis_block_clear' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_close': : undefined reference to `vorbis_dsp_clear' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_encode_close': : undefined reference to `vorbis_info_clear' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_decode_init': : undefined reference to `vorbis_info_init' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_decode_init': : undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_init' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_decode_init': : undefined reference to `vorbis_synthesis_headerin' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_decode_init': : undefined reference to `vorbis_synthesis_init' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_decode_init': : undefined reference to `vorbis_block_init' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_decode_frame': : undefined reference to `vorbis_synthesis' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_decode_frame': : undefined reference to `vorbis_synthesis_pcmout' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_decode_frame': : undefined reference to `vorbis_synthesis_read' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_decode_frame': : undefined reference to `vorbis_synthesis_pcmout' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_decode_frame': : undefined reference to `vorbis_synthesis_blockin' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_decode_close': : undefined reference to `vorbis_info_clear' /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o): In function `oggvorbis_decode_close': : undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [tcdecode] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/juser/src/transcode/transcode-1.0.0/import' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/juser/src/transcode/transcode-1.0.0/import' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/juser/src/transcode/transcode-1.0.0' make: *** [all] Error 2 ^Carl From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 01:31:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1EA126D98 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:31:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88NSWRd006281; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:28:32 +0200 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88NSTRd006265 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:28:30 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.30] (c-24-13-50-214.hsd1.il.comcast.net[24.13.50.214]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005090823282301300pqdiae>; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 23:28:23 +0000 Message-ID: <4320CA1D.4000009@personnelware.com> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:32:45 -0500 From: Carl Karsten User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' References: <43207E37.9070803@personnelware.com> <20050908182749.GA26132@webserver> <4320B5B9.70904@personnelware.com> <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> In-Reply-To: <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org nm. found the solution to the last time I had this problem. I knew I should have stayed on top of getting the .deb thing all wrapped up. ^C From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 01:40:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5014C126D8B for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:40:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88NbgRd006567; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:37:42 +0200 Received: from galaxy.systems.pipex.net (galaxy.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.31]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88NbfRd006549 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:37:41 +0200 Received: from nova (81-178-84-55.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.84.55]) by galaxy.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0174E0000C3 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:37:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from paul by nova with local id 1EDVxW-0001yj-3K for ; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:37:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:37:34 +0100 From: Paul Walker To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' Message-ID: <20050908233733.GH3768@black-sun.demon.co.uk> References: <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org I don't know why transcode tried to pull in things it was told weren't there, but as for the packages... > Coulcn't figure out what .deb contained libjpeg, so I punted and hoped I > didn't need it. libjpeg62-dev on mine. > the oog/vorbis=no was an attempt to get past the error. libvorbis-dev libogg-dev You may be detecting a theme here. ;-) -- Paul Please remember that downloading MP3s damages the music industry so please do it early, often and cheerfully. -- Phil Dyson From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 01:48:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6800E126D82 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:48:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88NkcRd006879; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:46:38 +0200 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88NkZRd006859 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:46:36 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.30] (c-24-13-50-214.hsd1.il.comcast.net[24.13.50.214]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005090823462401400fds3re>; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 23:46:29 +0000 Message-ID: <4320CE58.3080209@personnelware.com> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:50:48 -0500 From: Carl Karsten User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' References: <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> <20050908233733.GH3768@black-sun.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20050908233733.GH3768@black-sun.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Paul Walker wrote: > libjpeg62-dev on mine. > > > libvorbis-dev > libogg-dev Thanks. > > You may be detecting a theme here. ;-) > Yeah - re-run season. I played this same game a few months ago. got realy close, and then it fell off my radar. As long as you hhelping me do something I think I have figured out before, is there an easy answer to this one? carl@dhcp45:~/athf$ ./avitovob.sh leprauchpolis.avi transcode v1.0.0 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable. ************************************************ ** ** ** No css library available. See ** ** /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian ** ** for more information. ** ** ** ************************************************ libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO. [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms [transcode] auto-probing source output.avi (ok) [transcode] V: import format | XviD RIFF data, AVI (V=mplayer|A=null) [transcode] V: import frame | 512x384 1.33:1 XXX: zoom=yes pre_clip=no [transcode] V: clip frame (<-) | 576x416 [transcode] V: fast resize | Using -B 0,0,8 -X 8,18,8 [transcode] V: new aspect ratio | 720x480 1.44:1 (-X) [transcode] V: bits/pixel | 0.174 [transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 29.970,4 [transcode] V: Y'CbCr | YV12/I420 [transcode] A: import format | 0x55 MPEG layer-3 [48000,16,2] 110 kbps [transcode] A: export | disabled [transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 29.970,4 [transcode] A: bytes per frame | 6408 (6406.400000) [transcode] A: adjustment | -1600@1000 [transcode] V: IA32/AMD64 accel | sse3 (sse3 sse2 sse mmxext mmx asm C) tc_memcpy: using sse for memcpy [transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x480 [import_null.so] v0.2.0 (2002-01-19) (video) null | (audio) null [import_mplayer.so] v0.0.5 (2003-03-10) (video) rendered by mplayer | (audio) rendered by mplayer [transcode] warning : libavcodec.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [transcode] warning : (dl_loader.c) loading "/usr/local/lib/transcode/export_ffmpeg.so" failed [transcode] warning : (encoder.c) loading video export module failed [transcode] warning : failed to init export modules [transcode] critical: plug-in initialization failed INFO: [mplex] mplex version 1.6.3-rc2 (2.2.3 $Date: 2004/01/13 20:45:26 $) **ERROR: [mplex] Unable to open file output.m2v for reading. ^Carl From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 01:56:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDEC126D8B for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:56:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88NsmRd007279; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:54:48 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j88NsjRd007261 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:54:46 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j88NsdFg028294 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 16:54:39 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j88NsdPY028293 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 16:54:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 16:54:39 -0700 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' Message-ID: <20050908235439.GC26132@webserver> References: <43207E37.9070803@personnelware.com> <20050908182749.GA26132@webserver> <4320B5B9.70904@personnelware.com> <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> <4320CA1D.4000009@personnelware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4320CA1D.4000009@personnelware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Carl Karsten wrote: > nm. found the solution to the last time I had this problem. I knew I > should have stayed on top of getting the .deb thing all wrapped up. Ah, I run Slackware... so I just built ALL THE DEPENDENCIES FOR EVERY GODDAMN THING... from scratch! Bwahahahahaha! It took an entire day. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 02:08:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38860126D82 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 02:08:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8906XRd007710; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 02:06:33 +0200 Received: from ranger.systems.pipex.net (ranger.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.32]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8906WRd007694 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 02:06:32 +0200 Received: from nova (81-178-84-55.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.84.55]) by ranger.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1ECE0001D1 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:06:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from paul by nova with local id 1EDWPR-0002AN-EU for ; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 01:06:25 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:06:25 +0100 From: Paul Walker To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' Message-ID: <20050909000624.GJ3768@black-sun.demon.co.uk> References: <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> <20050908233733.GH3768@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <4320CE58.3080209@personnelware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4320CE58.3080209@personnelware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 06:50:48PM -0500, Carl Karsten wrote: > As long as you hhelping me do something I think I have figured out before, > is there an easy answer to this one? > ** No css library available. See ** > ** /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian ** Do that... ;) > [transcode] warning : libavcodec.so: cannot open shared object file: No > such file or directory > [transcode] warning : (dl_loader.c) loading Since I have it installed, dpkg -S /usr/lib/libavcodec.so produces "libavcodeccvs-dev: /usr/lib/libavcodec.so" You'll find a lot of this easier if you add: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main to /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update. Then you can install that package. > "/usr/local/lib/transcode/export_ffmpeg.so" failed export_ffmpeg.so is produced by a transcode build, for me. Possibly I have a different set of config options - I tend to have quite a lot of codecs and stuff installed, so it might have found something extra... Actually, it looks like the package above would probably resolve that one as well, if you run configure again (removing any cache) to make sure it can find avcodec.h and company. Hope that helps. -- Paul From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 02:46:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEBC126D8B for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 02:46:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j890iVRd008834; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 02:44:31 +0200 Received: from tamu-relay.tamu.edu (smtp-relay.TAMU.EDU [165.91.143.199]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j890iTRd008819 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 02:44:29 +0200 Received: from ocean.tamu.edu (ocean.tamu.edu [128.194.106.0]) by tamu-relay.tamu.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j890jKB3038643 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:45:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lholcombe@ocean.tamu.edu) Received: from holcombe2.tamu.edu by ocean.tamu.edu (8.8.8/1.1.20.8/03Jan00-0653AM) id TAA0000496916; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:44:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:43:56 +0000 From: Leigh Holcombe Subject: Re: [transcode-users] undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' To: transcode Users Mailing List References: <43207E37.9070803@personnelware.com> <20050908182749.GA26132@webserver> <4320B5B9.70904@personnelware.com> <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> <4320CA1D.4000009@personnelware.com> <20050908235439.GC26132@webserver> In-Reply-To: <20050908235439.GC26132@webserver> (from phil@slug.org on Thu Sep 8 18:54:39 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.3.3 Message-Id: <1126226636l.17956l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Received-SPF: none (smtp-relay.tamu.edu: domain of lholcombe@ocean.tamu.edu does not designate permitted sender hosts) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id j890iTRd008819 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On 09/08/2005 06:54:39 PM, Phil Ehrens wrote: > Carl Karsten wrote: > > nm. found the solution to the last time I had this problem. I knew > I > > should have stayed on top of getting the .deb thing all wrapped up. > > Ah, I run Slackware... so I just built ALL THE DEPENDENCIES > FOR EVERY GODDAMN THING... from scratch! Bwahahahahaha! It > took an entire day. > > > > > And doesn't it make you feel great? That's why I love Linux, that extra rush you get if you manage to make something work from scratch. -- Leigh Holcombe Department of Oceanography Texas A&M University From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 04:24:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71ECA126D8B for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 04:24:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j892LVRd011455; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 04:21:31 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j892LHRd011433 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 04:21:19 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j892L78I001828 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:21:07 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id j892L5vH001827 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:21:05 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:21:05 -0700 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' Message-ID: <20050909022105.GA1823@t22> References: <43207E37.9070803@personnelware.com> <20050908182749.GA26132@webserver> <4320B5B9.70904@personnelware.com> <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> <4320CA1D.4000009@personnelware.com> <20050908235439.GC26132@webserver> <1126226636l.17956l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1126226636l.17956l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Leigh Holcombe wrote: > > And doesn't it make you feel great? That's why I love Linux, that > extra rush you get if you manage to make something work from scratch. Damn, you saw right through me ;^) From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 04:42:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76690126D8B for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 04:42:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j892epRd012150; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 04:40:51 +0200 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.198.54]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j892ehRd012133 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 04:40:44 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.30] (c-24-13-50-214.hsd1.il.comcast.net[24.13.50.214]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005090902403301400fimile>; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 02:40:34 +0000 Message-ID: <4320F721.6050403@personnelware.com> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 21:44:49 -0500 From: Carl Karsten User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' References: <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> <20050908233733.GH3768@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <4320CE58.3080209@personnelware.com> <20050909000624.GJ3768@black-sun.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20050909000624.GJ3768@black-sun.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >>** No css library available. See ** >>** /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian ** > > > Do that... ;) I am going from avi to vob, so I don't need that now, right? > Since I have it installed, dpkg -S /usr/lib/libavcodec.so > produces "libavcodeccvs-dev: /usr/lib/libavcodec.so" > > You'll find a lot of this easier if you add: > > deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main there is a transcode in another of my repos and I think I got that version. how do I get the tc from this repo? (marillat) > > to /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update. Then you can install that > package. > > That package being transcode? if it will do the trick for my avi to vob, then fine. some other day I can get back to building from source. ^C From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 07:40:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D36126D8F for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:40:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j895bdRd023399; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:37:39 +0200 Received: from mail.hopnet.net (hopnet.net [202.173.129.91]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j895bXRd023379 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:37:34 +0200 Received: from [192.168.101.20] (apollo.hopnet.lan [192.168.101.20]) by mail.hopnet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5805FB6; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 15:37:27 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <43211F96.3020800@hopnet.net> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 15:37:26 +1000 From: Keith Hopkins Organization: Hopkins Network Engineering User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] *crash* tccat, double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0806a040 X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi Users, For tccat (called from transcode, or on the command line), is a trailing slash required when specifying a directory name as the -i parameter? I'm sometime seeing an error like *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0806a040 *** when a trailing slash is not present. Adding a trailing slash with the same file does not generate any error. Unfortunately dvd::rip doesn't append a trailing slash. More details (gdb output) can be found at http://wiki.hopnet.lan/twiki/bin/view/Main/VidOne --Keith From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 09:38:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83AE1126D8F for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 09:38:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j897ZSRd029367; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 09:35:28 +0200 Received: from fscked.org (c-67-188-96-111.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.96.111]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j897ZQRd029349 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 09:35:26 +0200 Received: from mikepery by fscked.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EDdPT-0003zP-2m for transcode-users@exit1.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 02:34:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 02:34:55 -0500 From: Mike Perry To: transcode Users Mailing List Message-ID: <20050909073454.GA16694@fscked.org> References: <20050902064930.GA11975@fscked.org> <20050907231324.GA18181@fscked.org> <20050908020301.GA941@t22> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050908020301.GA941@t22> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Re: Transcode+ffmpeg producing out of sync audio X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thus spake Phil Ehrens (phil@slug.org): > Mike Perry wrote: > > > > If someone is able to transcode vob files without an audio sync > > delay, could you please paste your transcode command so I could give > > it a shot? > > Hi Mike, > > Sync issues are usually caused by improper sensing of the > source material. Probably something about your source is > defeating the auto-detection. I always rip dvd's using > mencoder: Welp, this worked. For the record, the DVDs I noticed this issue with were Control Room and Brewster's Millions. Of the two, Control Room was much worse off, though Brewster's was still off by enough to be irritating. For the benefit of web/archive viewers, I found some more detailed info on using mencoder for this process on: http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/single/index.html#transcoding_mplayer and http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/other/ripping_dvds_to_divx_with_mencoder.html I had started using transcode+dvdrip years ago and had never bothered with mencoder, since transcode+dvdrip had always "just worked" in the past. It didn't even occur to me to try it. Thanks much! -- Mike Perry Mad Computer Scientist fscked.org evil labs From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 11:41:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93C5126D8F for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:41:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j899b8Rd003851; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:37:09 +0200 Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j899b6Rd003833 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:37:06 +0200 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Sep 2005 09:37:01 -0000 Received: from chello080109065213.17.15.tuwien.teleweb.at (EHLO laptop) [80.109.65.213] by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 09 Sep 2005 11:37:01 +0200 X-Authenticated: #11437207 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:37:40 +0000 From: Tim Blechmann To: transcode Users Mailing List Message-ID: <20050909113740.2a598d5c@laptop> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.13 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] merging audio and video for a dvd X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org hi all, i'm currently trying to merge an audio file (wav) and a video file (vob from a dvd rip). i was trying something like this: tcmplex -i old.vob -o sound.wav -o new.vob -m d this doesn't work: INFO: using reference profile (DVD) INFO: profile type is (PAL) ERROR: File VTS_01_1.VOB is not a 11172-2 or 13818-2 Video stream. it seems, that a vob file can't be used as a source file. my question is now: is it possible to do a lossless transformation to a file that tcmplex can use (what format, how?) so that i can merge both audio and video without loosing image quality... thanks in advance ... tim -- mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de ICQ: 96771783 http://www.mokabar.tk latest mp3: kMW.mp3 http://mattin.org/mp3.html latest cd: Goh Lee Kwang & Tim Blechmann: Drone http://www.geocities.com/gohleekwangtimblechmannduo/ After one look at this planet any visitor from outer space would say "I want to see the manager." William S. Burroughs From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 12:12:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7980F126D8F for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:12:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89A90Rd005756; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:09:00 +0200 Received: from vagranthosting01.vagrantweb.com (vagranthosting01.vagrantweb.com [67.18.220.98]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89A8wRd005739 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:08:58 +0200 Received: (qmail 28023 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2005 05:08:52 -0500 Received: from p232.net220148054.tnc.ne.jp (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (220.148.54.232) by authentichypocrite.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2005 05:08:52 -0500 Message-ID: <43215F95.5000405@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:10:29 +0900 From: Joe Friedrichsen Organization: Pengi Films User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode-users@exit1.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] The best quality OSS mpeg2 encoder? X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pengi.films@gmail.com, transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org I've started to make films recently using linux and I've been trying to find the best mpeg2 encoder for making DVD compliant video. After reading the news groups for a while, I realized this is one of those never-fully-answered, and always-asked questions. I decided to at least do some looking around beforehand to help alleviate the eye-rolling. First, to find the possible encoder candidates. A few months ago, I thought the main encoding utilities were mjpegtools, ffmpeg, transcode, and mencoder (please tell me if I missed any leading ones). But reading more deeply into the matter has raised a few questions for me. Please clarify things for me if you can. Transcode (http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?Building_Transcode) and more importantly the ffmpeg home page (http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/index.php) suggest that ffmpeg is built off of (and I suspect develops...?) libavcodec. libavcodec is also used by mplayer/mencoder. Given that ffmpeg has admitted having bitrate problems with mpeg-2, does that hold true for mencoder? The mplayer docs (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/codecs.html#ffmpeg) say that mplayer uses ffmpeg's libavcodec (which version?). How intertwined are these tools? I found a basic comparison between ffmpeg and mpeg2enc here: http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?FFmpeg_Vs._Mpeg2enc that confirms ffmpeg's bitrate control problem (and a more brief description in the newsgroups: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.ffmpeg.user/481). Both pages also suggest that transcode can use either ffmpeg/libavcodec or mpeg2enc when encoding. Yet, transcode lists neither as a dependency (from what I've seen)... Does it include its own libraries from these utilities? If so, which versions? So, if I'm reading this correctly, the truly 'base' utilities/libraries are ffmpeg and mpeg2enc, while transcode and mencoder are front-ends/re-branders of sorts. Is this accurate? Second, evaluate the encoders. The first step here would be research - look for others' work to avoid rehashing known facts. I've done some googling and haven't found much quantitative information comparing the stream quality of streams encoded by mpeg2enc and libavcodec (the FFmpeg_Vs._Mpeg2enc page offers some good starting information, but I fear that it's a little old - last edited over a year and a half ago). I found another site that compares many other encoders, but libavcodec and mpeg2enc aren't included: http://www.tecoltd.com/enctest/enctest.htm . Do you know any sites that have done any comparisons? What are your personal experiences with the two? If comparisons haven't been made, then I should do some. Which are good video types to test? What content do I want? I like tecoltd.com's choice of fast motion, edges, and details. What types of video will show how encoders differ? Joe From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 13:56:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8685126D8F for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 13:56:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89BrGRd012785; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 13:53:16 +0200 Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j89BrDRd012761 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 13:53:13 +0200 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Sep 2005 11:53:07 -0000 Received: from 212-62-89-16.teleos-web.de (EHLO work.holtkamp.priv) [212.62.89.16] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 09 Sep 2005 13:53:07 +0200 X-Authenticated: #810257 Received: from maik by work.holtkamp.priv with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1EDhRM-0005Hj-00 for ; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:53:08 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 13:53:08 +0200 From: Maik Holtkamp To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] merging audio and video for a dvd Message-ID: <20050909115308.GA20291@holtkamp.priv> Mail-Followup-To: transcode Users Mailing List References: <20050909113740.2a598d5c@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050909113740.2a598d5c@laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-PGP-Fingerprint: 868E 75E0 3FF1 A5F7 7036 41B1 D019 F5EF 9027 AB88 X-ICQ: 106425684 X-IRC: m707 X-message-flag: Outlook is a breeding ground for viruses. See http://cws.internet.com/mail.html for alternatives X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, 0n 05/09/09@11:37 Tim Blechmann told me: > i'm currently trying to merge an audio file (wav) and a video file (vob > from a dvd rip). wav is not allowed on dvd specs. Try to convert the sound to mpeg1-layer2 (mp2enc, toolame). > i was trying something like this: > tcmplex -i old.vob -o sound.wav -o new.vob -m d IMHO tcmplex is not the tool of choice at all. Try mplex from mjpeg-tools. > ERROR: File VTS_01_1.VOB is not a 11172-2 or 13818-2 Video stream. Not familiar with tcmplex, but tcprobe -i should give you advice if the file is usable on dvd or not. --=20 bye maik --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Weitere Infos: siehe http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkMhd6QACgkQ0Bn175Anq4ggqgCeKzWwuEggijkIo75bjkmgKNOq Mf0AnjCI29PKRsLAmHtsZAQAQNb5YF22 =hVDv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 14:11:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83CE126D8F for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:11:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89C8qRd013933; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:08:52 +0200 Received: from galaxy.systems.pipex.net (galaxy.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.31]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89C8nRd013915 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:08:50 +0200 Received: from nova (81-178-84-55.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.84.55]) by galaxy.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A617DE0001BF for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 13:08:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from paul by nova with local id 1EDhgP-0005no-R7 for ; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:08:41 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 13:08:41 +0100 From: Paul Walker To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' Message-ID: <20050909120841.GA20018@black-sun.demon.co.uk> References: <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> <20050908233733.GH3768@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <4320CE58.3080209@personnelware.com> <20050909000624.GJ3768@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <4320F721.6050403@personnelware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4320F721.6050403@personnelware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 09:44:49PM -0500, Carl Karsten wrote: > >Do that... ;) > I am going from avi to vob, so I don't need that now, right? Not for this, no. > there is a transcode in another of my repos and I think I got that version. > how do I get the tc from this repo? (marillat) You don't particularly want the transcode from that repository, because it's still an old version (0.6.4). However, it does seem to have fairly up-to-date library versions. > That package being transcode? if it will do the trick for my avi to vob, > then fine. some other day I can get back to building from source. You can install transcode, if you don't mind the older version. The package I actually meant was libavcodeccvs-dev, though. You might also want to investigate the build-dep and source commands of apt-get. -- Paul As you can see, Mozilla glides though even the most complex and obfuscated HTML with the greatest of... oh crap. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 14:25:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D446126D8F for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:25:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89CMnRd014741; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:22:49 +0200 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j89CMlRd014715 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:22:47 +0200 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Sep 2005 12:22:42 -0000 Received: from chello080109065213.17.15.tuwien.teleweb.at (EHLO laptop) [80.109.65.213] by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 09 Sep 2005 14:22:42 +0200 X-Authenticated: #11437207 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:23:22 +0000 From: Tim Blechmann To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] merging audio and video for a dvd Message-ID: <20050909142322.40088a71@laptop> In-Reply-To: <20050909115308.GA20291@holtkamp.priv> References: <20050909113740.2a598d5c@laptop> <20050909115308.GA20291@holtkamp.priv> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.13 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Cc: s-y-l@gmx.net X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org > wav is not allowed on dvd specs. Try to convert the sound to > mpeg1-layer2 (mp2enc, toolame). thanks for this hint ... > > i was trying something like this: > > tcmplex -i old.vob -o sound.wav -o new.vob -m d > > IMHO tcmplex is not the tool of choice at all. Try mplex from > mjpeg-tools. i just tried it, but it has problems with the .vob file, too: INFO: [mplex] mplex version 1.6.2 (2.2.3 $Date: 2004/01/13 20:45:26 $) **ERROR: [mplex] File unrecogniseable! **ERROR: [mplex] Unrecogniseable file(s)... exiting. > > ERROR: File VTS_01_1.VOB is not a 11172-2 or 13818-2 Video stream. > > Not familiar with tcmplex, but tcprobe -i should give you > advice if the file is usable on dvd or not. the tcprobe output returns the following: [tcprobe] MPEG program stream (PS) [tcprobe] summary for ../VTS_01_1.VOB, (*) = not default, 0 = not detected import frame size: -g 720x576 [720x576] aspect ratio: 4:3 (*) frame rate: -f 25.000 [25.000] frc=3 PTS=0.3600, frame_time=40 ms, bitrate=7000 kbps no audio track: use "null" import module for audio what does this tell me? thanks for your help ... tim -- mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de ICQ: 96771783 http://www.mokabar.tk latest mp3: kMW.mp3 http://mattin.org/mp3.html latest cd: Goh Lee Kwang & Tim Blechmann: Drone http://www.geocities.com/gohleekwangtimblechmannduo/ After one look at this planet any visitor from outer space would say "I want to see the manager." William S. Burroughs From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 15:39:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4A9126D90 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 15:39:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89DaWRd019231; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 15:36:33 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89DaTRd019215 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 15:36:30 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j89DaLtp002325 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 06:36:21 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id j89DaLBq002324 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 06:36:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 06:36:21 -0700 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Re: Transcode+ffmpeg producing out of sync audio Message-ID: <20050909133621.GA2318@t22> References: <20050902064930.GA11975@fscked.org> <20050907231324.GA18181@fscked.org> <20050908020301.GA941@t22> <20050909073454.GA16694@fscked.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050909073454.GA16694@fscked.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mike Perry wrote: > > I had started using transcode+dvdrip years ago and had never bothered > with mencoder, since transcode+dvdrip had always "just worked" in the > past. It didn't even occur to me to try it. Since dvd's are becoming crankier and crankier, with wildly shifting frame rates and even worse things, mencoder's on-the-fly error correction is a big win. It is probably all available from within transcode via -x mplayer,mplayer as well. Of course, when going in the other direction, from .avi's to playable dvd's, transcode is the only way to go, using the diabolically clever --export_prof option, which takes all the hair-pulling out of geometry management. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 17:55:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89023126D90 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:55:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89FqvRd027229; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:52:57 +0200 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [63.240.76.28]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89FqtRd027214 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:52:55 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.30] (c-67-163-39-125.hsd1.il.comcast.net[67.163.39.125]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20050909155248013004qhlme>; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 15:52:48 +0000 Message-ID: <4321B0D2.3010809@personnelware.com> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:57:06 -0500 From: Carl Karsten User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' References: <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> <20050908233733.GH3768@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <4320CE58.3080209@personnelware.com> <20050909000624.GJ3768@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <4320F721.6050403@personnelware.com> <20050909120841.GA20018@black-sun.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20050909120841.GA20018@black-sun.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org > You might also want to investigate the build-dep and source commands of > apt-get. me sings "Which brings us back to Doh!" From a thread in august: > > ERROR: option '--enable-avifile' failed: cannot compile avifile.h > avifile.h can be found in the following packages: > avifile http://avifile.sourceforge.net/ > > Which fits, given that I can't get avifile-dev to install. So for now, how do I set configure options? I'll just disable avi (which makes tc somewhat useless for many people, but Ill worry about that once I get something to buiild. > Christian Marillat wrote: > ... >>root@cpEpro1:~/src # apt-cache policy libavifile-0.7-dev libavifile-0.7 >>> libavifile-0.7c102 >>> libavifile-0.7: >>> Installed: 1:0.7.43.20050224-1ubuntu4 >>> Candidate: 1:0.7.43.20050224-1ubuntu4 > > > We can do nothing with this one. Broken package completely > uninstallable. > > So open with your prefered editor 'transcode-1.0.0/debian/control' and > remove libavifile-0.7-dev from the Build-Depends: field. > > Christian > The plan was to A) get a tc.deb package that did anything, then B) figure out what options to add, and C) do them right. Never got A working, got distracted by real work. ^Carl From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 22:20:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A1A126D93 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 22:20:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89KFPRd009067; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 22:15:25 +0200 Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89KFORd008985 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 22:15:24 +0200 Received: from [80.229.242.51] (helo=tiber.centauri) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1EDpHI-0000mi-IO for transcode-users@exit1.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 21:15:16 +0100 Received: from tony by tiber.centauri with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EDpGf-0002yM-Sh for transcode-users@exit1.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 21:14:37 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 21:14:37 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: transcode-users@exit1.org Message-ID: <20050909201437.GA11328@realh.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: transcode-users@exit1.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Requantization with KVCD matrixes X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Would it be possible for tools such as tcrequant or m2vrequant to support alternative matrixes, namely KVCD, or can they only change one or two simple factors within the matrixes a video was originally encoded with? Every so often I record something from my DVB card I want to keep on DVD, and being able to requantize with KVCD would be an ideal way to fit more on per disc with shorter conversion time and less loss of quality and compatibility than other conversions. -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 9 23:21:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56C6126D93 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 23:21:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89LIORd012439; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 23:18:24 +0200 Received: from boreas.iversen-net.dk (port741.ds1-noe.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.204.118]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j89LILRd012422 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 23:18:21 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by boreas.iversen-net.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455AF1319A1 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 23:18:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boreas.iversen-net.dk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (boreas.iversen-net.dk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30197-10 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 23:18:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zephyr.iversen-net.dk (zephyr.iversen-net.dk [10.0.0.2]) by boreas.iversen-net.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 23:18:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Iversen To: transcode-users@exit1.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 23:18:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at iversen-net.dk X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hello. I'm developing/researching PVR software for Linux, and have been using transcode for the encoding part for over a year now, which seems to be stable. However, this is with 0.6.14. Any newer version crashes, and I have testet with 0.6.15, 0.6.16 and 1.0.0. The error is _always_ SIGSEGV if and _only_ if I use deinterlacing. I usually use linear blend (-I5), so I'm guaranteed a crash. However, without -I5 everything runs smoothly. Surely, something is broken. So, I began searching, and found the function that crashes, within a relatively short amount of time. yuv_deinterlace_linear_blend(ptr->video_buf, ptr->video_buf_Y[ptr->free], ptr->v_width, ptr->v_height); (line 800 of video_trans.c) Now, this function checks the cpu caps, and chooses a carefully (? ;-) hand-optimized assembler function (at least on x86). In my case (Barton, so 3dnow+sse), it goes for ac_average_sse. (line 1526 of video_yuv.c). After some experimentation, I've found that this exact line is what causes transcode to crash. A quick "fix" for this is to comment out line 1526: // yuv_average = ac_average_sse; But that doesn't really solve the problem, of course. (it doesn't crash anymore, but it's quite a lot slower because it can't use SSE). I don't have time to read and grok ac_average_sse(), but it's only 30-40 LOC, so I hope this is information enough to get some of you seasoned transcode devs to fix it. Happy hacking :-) -- Regards, Christian Iversen From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sat Sep 10 04:51:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7DB126D90 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:51:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8A2mDRd023744; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:48:13 +0200 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j8A2lwRd023718 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:48:00 +0200 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 4322495b.37223; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:47:55 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:46:44 JST In-Reply-To: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.20 Message-ID: <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >I'm developing/researching PVR software for Linux, and have been using >transcode for the encoding part for over a year now, which seems to be >stable. However, this is with 0.6.14. Any newer version crashes, and I have >testet with 0.6.15, 0.6.16 and 1.0.0. > >The error is _always_ SIGSEGV if and _only_ if I use deinterlacing. I usually >use linear blend (-I5), so I'm guaranteed a crash. However, without -I5 >everything runs smoothly. Surely, something is broken. I can't reproduce this with current CVS. Please try it and report the results. --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sat Sep 10 08:08:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB783126D98 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:08:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8A64XRd002664; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:04:33 +0200 Received: from mail231.csoft.net (qmailr@resin.csoft.net [63.111.22.86]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j8A64URd002648 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:04:31 +0200 Received: (qmail 10722 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2005 05:59:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO puff.jakemsr.gom) (63.111.27.87) by mail231.csoft.net with SMTP; 10 Sep 2005 05:59:59 -0000 Received: (from jakemsr@jakemsr.com) by puff.jakemsr.gom (mini_sendmail/1.3.5 16nov2003); Fri, 09 Sep 2005 22:58:38 PDT (sender jakemsr@puff.jakemsr.gom) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 22:58:38 -0700 From: Jacob Meuser To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) Message-ID: <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> Mail-Followup-To: transcode-users@exit1.org References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 11:46:44AM +0900, Andrew Church wrote: > >I'm developing/researching PVR software for Linux, and have been using > >transcode for the encoding part for over a year now, which seems to be > >stable. However, this is with 0.6.14. Any newer version crashes, and I have > >testet with 0.6.15, 0.6.16 and 1.0.0. 0.6.15? 0.6.16? > >The error is _always_ SIGSEGV if and _only_ if I use deinterlacing. I usually > >use linear blend (-I5), so I'm guaranteed a crash. However, without -I5 > >everything runs smoothly. Surely, something is broken. > > I can't reproduce this with current CVS. Please try it and report the > results. yes, it was fixed a while ago. -- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sat Sep 10 10:55:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5199F126D98 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:55:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8A8q8Rd009608; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:52:08 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8A8q4Rd009591 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:52:06 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 09B8014340BF; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:52:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id E2B1643C0C5; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:51:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] undefined reference to `vorbis_comment_clear' From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <1126226636l.17956l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> References: <43207E37.9070803@personnelware.com> <20050908182749.GA26132@webserver> <4320B5B9.70904@personnelware.com> <4320BE9E.2060203@personnelware.com> <4320CA1D.4000009@personnelware.com> <20050908235439.GC26132@webserver> <1126226636l.17956l.0l@holcombe2.tamu.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-tkQ4brVKmXZ95ECdNCuc" Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:51:45 +0200 Message-Id: <1126342305.4766.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-91.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-tkQ4brVKmXZ95ECdNCuc Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 00:43 +0000, Leigh Holcombe wrote: > And doesn't it make you feel great? 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From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <43215F95.5000405@gmail.com> References: <43215F95.5000405@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-rc3fPxwPZfoj90on/XcK" Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:12:20 +0200 Message-Id: <1126343540.4766.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-91.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-rc3fPxwPZfoj90on/XcK Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 19:10 +0900, Joe Friedrichsen wrote: [ ... ] > suggest that ffmpeg is built off of (and I suspect develops...?) libavco= dec. FFmpeg is the application, it's merely a quite simple wrapper around libavcodec and libavformat. > libavcodec is also used by mplayer/mencoder. Given that ffmpeg has > admitted having bitrate=20 > problems with mpeg-2, does that hold true for mencoder? It's not exactly so. The bitrate control of ffmpeg is really not perfect, but in practise you'll never know (in my opinion). Unless you want to make a super-hq DVD with an average bitrate of 9 Mbps, which imho is silly anyway. And yes. > The mplayer docs=20 > (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/codecs.html#ffmpeg) say that=20 > mplayer uses ffmpeg's libavcodec (which version?). How intertwined are=20 > these tools? CVS, yes, very. > I found a basic comparison between ffmpeg and mpeg2enc here:=20 > http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?FFmpeg_Vs._Mpeg2enc > that confirms ffmpeg's bitrate control problem (and a more brief=20 > description in the newsgroups:=20 > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.ffmpeg.user/481). Please keep in mind those postings (and the opinions even more) are mostly based on versions of libavcodec from years ago. FFmpeg is one of the fastest moving open source projects around. That's also why you should always use CVS. > Both pages=20 > also suggest that transcode can use either ffmpeg/libavcodec or mpeg2enc=20 > when encoding. Yet, transcode lists neither as a dependency (from what=20 > I've seen)... Does it include its own libraries from these utilities? If=20 > so, which versions? Transcode used to ship the ffmpeg libs until 0.6.12 and link to these statically. Then I decided in my endless wisdom that it was too much burden on the developers to include the latest CVS of ffmpeg each time and also I don't like static libraries, so transcode now dynamically links to libavcodec. AFAIK all docs are changed to reflect this change. Before that time, the dependency on ffmpeg already was there because transcode uses all kinds of utils from libavcodec, regardless. You can make a transcode that doesn't use mpeg2enc, so in that perspective, mpeg2enc is not a dependency. > So, if I'm reading this correctly, the truly 'base' utilities/libraries=20 > are ffmpeg and mpeg2enc, while transcode and mencoder are=20 > front-ends/re-branders of sorts. Is this accurate? Almost. It's more correctly to compare libavcodec and mpeg2enc. BTW afaik mpeg2enc does not supply separate libraries, so you always must run the program (separate or started from a frontend). > Second, evaluate the encoders. The first step here would be research -=20 > look for others' work to avoid rehashing known facts. I've done some=20 > googling and haven't found much quantitative information comparing the=20 > stream quality of streams encoded by mpeg2enc and libavcodec Bottom line: both are good encoders, libavcodec has some options to make it work faster (imho a lot, but opinions vary on this subject) but also less precise (bitrate and max compression, not quality). In some very rare cases of a very picky decoder, mpeg2enc tends to give better results. Also mpeg2enc is way easier to use from the command line, because it only makes mpeg program streams with mpeg2 video. > If comparisons haven't been made, then I should do some. Which are good=20 > video types to test? What content do I want? I like tecoltd.com's choice=20 > of fast motion, edges, and details. What types of video will show how=20 > encoders differ? I don't think it's worth the effort to do extensive comparison. Try both, watch the completion time and then look for yourself if you see any difference. If no, use the fastest. At least don't use bbmpeg (-y mpeg in transcode). 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Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:19:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8A9HQRd011231; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:17:26 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8A9D3Rd010991 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:13:03 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id B891714340BE; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:13:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 60E7D43C0C5; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:13:01 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] merging audio and video for a dvd From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20050909113740.2a598d5c@laptop> References: <20050909113740.2a598d5c@laptop> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-A/hQK3EAELj6FNt+A3k0" Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:13:01 +0200 Message-Id: <1126343581.4766.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-91.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-A/hQK3EAELj6FNt+A3k0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 11:37 +0000, Tim Blechmann wrote: > is it possible to do a lossless transformation to a file that tcmplex > can use (what format, how?) so that i can merge both audio and video > without loosing image quality... 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Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:22:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8A9KRRd011576; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:20:27 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8A9K4Rd011529 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:20:04 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 51EAF14340BF; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:20:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 2887C43C0C5; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:19:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] merging audio and video for a dvd From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20050909115308.GA20291@holtkamp.priv> References: <20050909113740.2a598d5c@laptop> <20050909115308.GA20291@holtkamp.priv> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-MMfChoGwV5/0w6/cxFQZ" Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:19:47 +0200 Message-Id: <1126343988.4766.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-MMfChoGwV5/0w6/cxFQZ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 13:53 +0200, Maik Holtkamp wrote: > > i'm currently trying to merge an audio file (wav) and a video file (vob > > from a dvd rip). >=20 > wav is not allowed on dvd specs. Try to convert the sound to > mpeg1-layer2 (mp2enc, toolame). PCM is allowed, afaik mplex can decapsulate it from wav. --=-MMfChoGwV5/0w6/cxFQZ Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIGFjCCAs8w ggI4oAMCAQICAw9TczANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhh d3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVt YWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDUwODE4MTE1NDA1WhcNMDYwODE4MTE1NDA1WjBDMR8wHQYDVQQD ExZUaGF3dGUgRnJlZW1haWwgTWVtYmVyMSAwHgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhFlcmlrQHNsYWd0ZXIubmFt ZTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBANAMKW15OgreNb+Wd++Xcw6uNJUXXIfX 56u1rtTObMmbbDY2wNc4Iqwbuwaysvox3z+YElXBibE8BAyV1iMjhee4mOfAy38dGHtWDxhOGke8 VpkyY8DSWgMN5p4egTiT6YNdHW75iiQ+Vh5zMHju1UXnIqgf5zkUGkNuxYp15jLZvRDbfA5H+Sil jbZGB2fiPOJHpyI61ZidcMgdow31qm70/oe6vXxhSZLzo7OLvExE+mQHwbCSIJMN/hPTK1z0lmQ1 kkaEjHrefqIgoF9Dk/WfOtulzvR3xBzDL50GZ32BxT/OhXYe1SHEJpSM1S/aq8TBQJYwjzREWyDh 0OYsmr0CAwEAAaMuMCwwHAYDVR0RBBUwE4ERZXJpa0BzbGFndGVyLm5hbWUwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIw ADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQCCpzoneRQIKsUO8zSnwQ7yhJTrS/EaDibiIVrkkCbzXwCiHFAi 7nmTRF0DlLVF3Ssf97ITWT/RSdkj9Xke0OHH7724PJdfpA6OglMnx2i7IcJLzPgPjB+fOmfR0nYX UYKuzGxTOXmshLmPcwKdpFuRLLk7n+vrTAwJYJI++crhJzCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZI hvcNAQEFBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcT CUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmlj YXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFp bCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMzA3 MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUg Q29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwg SXNzdWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV+065yplaHmjAdQRw nd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNaLIkVcI7dyfArhVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+R NiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUqVIUPSAR/p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEA AaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1UdHwQ8MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwu dGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWlsQ0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNV HREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxhYmVsMi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEA SIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/TCG4+DYfqi2fNi/A9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6GX6E sZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amcOY6MIE9lX5Xa9/eH1sYITq726jTlEBpbNU1341YheILc IRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggHvMIIB6wIBATBpMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3 dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1h aWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIDD1NzMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgXTAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcB MBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNTA5MTAwOTE5NDdaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBREAHw9duCRod8S haabpgwrHw+ucDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQB79V/SkPKVTLpvSYzCLuW5+8wyXUp9yJXRfa4T xV5IqmgJhMCtLN6u5AkszD6XepOeOU5Y06jdZJsXkQr4EUPv1IRimDmSV9D8ZriEU4/I0dt51wz+ cSRqFLvd/BZR5mXBUD67Fz+Gvrtlxr+yjOJiRkNBKqu0jveyWyuHnw24p6Y6ZMHwwMtw1IyobWka YUE02d7DNLY2gRIzFxLmgT5HCH0UbLvMPjFti6bEgF6CyEnfuKPKNr3wwofed2btNF47ZNvMk2T9 VUou3tZHSgW+5XNlIMqea+vXDPuGgnimmN7SQu5JDquHDejy10UUkns8/9RsN8z1Qn+djQIiaix3 AAAAAAAA --=-MMfChoGwV5/0w6/cxFQZ-- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sat Sep 10 11:34:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DBA126D90 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:34:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8A9WtRd012518; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:32:55 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8A9O4Rd011832 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:24:04 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 0DD6B14340BF; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:24:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 9F87943C0C5; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:23:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] merging audio and video for a dvd From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20050909142322.40088a71@laptop> References: <20050909113740.2a598d5c@laptop> <20050909115308.GA20291@holtkamp.priv> <20050909142322.40088a71@laptop> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-DnWBLVqmEUi6gP+Nh8bq" Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:23:02 +0200 Message-Id: <1126344182.4766.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-DnWBLVqmEUi6gP+Nh8bq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 14:23 +0000, Tim Blechmann wrote: > the tcprobe output returns the following: > [tcprobe] MPEG program stream (PS) Your file is a program stream (already muxed), mplex wants elementary streams (mpeg video/mpeg audio/ac3 audio) --=-DnWBLVqmEUi6gP+Nh8bq Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; 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Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:54:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8ABpuRd021973; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:51:56 +0200 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j8ABpqRd021956 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:51:53 +0200 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 4322c8d7.66257; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:51:51 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] The best quality OSS mpeg2 encoder? Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:48:17 JST In-Reply-To: <1126343540.4766.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.20 Message-ID: <4322c8d7.66257@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >> libavcodec is also used by mplayer/mencoder. Given that ffmpeg has >> admitted having bitrate=20 >> problems with mpeg-2, does that hold true for mencoder? > >It's not exactly so. The bitrate control of ffmpeg is really not >perfect, but in practise you'll never know (in my opinion). That's wrong. The ffmpeg bug can bite you even at rates of 3Mbps (like it has me); the issue is that it can exceed the _maximum_ bitrate which transcode sets to 9Mbps per default (DVD spec says the maximum is 9800 kbps). It's not an issue of how it looks, it's an issue of whether the video data is within spec or not. --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sat Sep 10 15:18:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21743126D90 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:18:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8ADF0Rd027046; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:15:02 +0200 Received: from boreas.iversen-net.dk (port741.ds1-noe.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.204.118]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8ADEwRd027029 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:14:58 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by boreas.iversen-net.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35922D2997 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:14:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boreas.iversen-net.dk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (boreas.iversen-net.dk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20087-10 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:14:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zephyr.iversen-net.dk (zephyr.iversen-net.dk [10.0.0.2]) by boreas.iversen-net.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:14:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Iversen To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:14:53 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> In-Reply-To: <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at iversen-net.dk X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Saturday 10 September 2005 07:58, Jacob Meuser wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 11:46:44AM +0900, Andrew Church wrote: > > >I'm developing/researching PVR software for Linux, and have been using > > >transcode for the encoding part for over a year now, which seems to be > > >stable. However, this is with 0.6.14. Any newer version crashes, and I > > > have testet with 0.6.15, 0.6.16 and 1.0.0. > > 0.6.15? 0.6.16? Did I remember the version numbers wrong? Anyway, they were the 2 newest versions before 1.0.0. > > >The error is _always_ SIGSEGV if and _only_ if I use deinterlacing. I > > > usually use linear blend (-I5), so I'm guaranteed a crash. However, > > > without -I5 everything runs smoothly. Surely, something is broken. > > > > I can't reproduce this with current CVS. Please try it and report > > the results. > > yes, it was fixed a while ago. Oh I see. Just not in the debian maintainers version. I'll prod him :-) -- Regards, Christian Iversen From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sat Sep 10 17:16:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403BF126D98 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:16:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8AF56Rd001084; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:05:06 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8AF53Rd001068 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:05:03 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id A0FAB14340BF; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:05:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id B3D1743C0C5; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:04:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-GEijtUFJukzEO5IoNEs5" Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:04:35 +0200 Message-Id: <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-GEijtUFJukzEO5IoNEs5 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 15:14 +0200, Christian Iversen wrote: > > yes, it was fixed a while ago. > Oh I see. > Just not in the debian maintainers version. 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From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <4322c8d7.66257@msgid.achurch.org> References: <4322c8d7.66257@msgid.achurch.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-RnkCTqqPM1zVSJUYxYxV" Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:06:23 +0200 Message-Id: <1126364783.5565.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-RnkCTqqPM1zVSJUYxYxV Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 20:48 +0000, Andrew Church wrote: > >> libavcodec is also used by mplayer/mencoder. Given that ffmpeg has > >> admitted having bitrate=3D20 > >> problems with mpeg-2, does that hold true for mencoder? > > > >It's not exactly so. The bitrate control of ffmpeg is really not > >perfect, but in practise you'll never know (in my opinion). >=20 > That's wrong. The ffmpeg bug can bite you even at rates of 3Mbps > (like it has me); the issue is that it can exceed the _maximum_ bitrate > which transcode sets to 9Mbps per default (DVD spec says the maximum is > 9800 kbps). It's not an issue of how it looks, it's an issue of whether > the video data is within spec or not. That's what I say (a little bit further on). It may bite you when you want an average bit rate of 9 Mbps or so. 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(partial fix) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:12:57 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509101812.57788.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at iversen-net.dk X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Saturday 10 September 2005 17:04, Erik Slagter wrote: > On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 15:14 +0200, Christian Iversen wrote: > > > yes, it was fixed a while ago. > > > > Oh I see. > > Just not in the debian maintainers version. I'll prod him :-) > > What's new :-( Oh, bugger :-( Well, at least I have an internal package now, based off of transcode-cvs head. It works, btw. -- Regards, Christian Iversen From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sat Sep 10 19:00:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB291126D98 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:00:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8AGv7Rd008317; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:57:07 +0200 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j8AGv3Rd008292 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:57:04 +0200 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 4323105f.66526; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:57:03 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] The best quality OSS mpeg2 encoder? Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:54:30 JST In-Reply-To: <1126364783.5565.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.20 Message-ID: <4323105f.66526@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >> That's wrong. The ffmpeg bug can bite you even at rates of 3Mbps >> (like it has me); the issue is that it can exceed the _maximum_ bitrate >> which transcode sets to 9Mbps per default (DVD spec says the maximum is >> 9800 kbps). It's not an issue of how it looks, it's an issue of whether >> the video data is within spec or not. > >That's what I say (a little bit further on). It may bite you when you >want an average bit rate of 9 Mbps or so. No no, you're misreading me. It bites you with an AVERAGE bitrate of 3 Mbps, if your MAXIMUM bitrate is set too high (like 9 Mbps--which is what transcode defaults to with --export-profile dvd, hence this is relevant to ordinary transcoding). >BTW this also only counts for two-pass encoding (which I never do anyway). This is true, but I on the other hand always use two-pass (for the reasons I give on the wiki), and I have in fact had to deal with this several times at ordinary bitrates, like 3-4 Mbps. --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sat Sep 10 19:11:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDC8126D98 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:11:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8AH9bRd008962; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:09:37 +0200 Received: from szolnok.dunaweb.hu (dunaweb1.euroweb.hu [195.184.0.6]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8AH9aRd008946 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:09:36 +0200 Received: from [193.226.227.37] (wl-193.226.227-37-szolnok.dunaweb.hu [193.226.227.37]) by szolnok.dunaweb.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF0F8913CB for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:10:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:34:05 +0200 From: Zoltan Boszormenyi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-1.1.fc3 (X11/20050720) X-Accept-Language: hu-hu, hu, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode-users@exit1.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Interlaced NTSC -> PAL DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi, here is the situation: my neighbour has a MiniDV camera that he bought when he was in Canada. The camera obviously produces NTSC interlaced material. He asked me to create DVDs from his recordings but since we are in Hungary, I would like to make PAL DVDs. I was happy to see that dvgrab works like a charm. Then came my tortures. Please, don't be offended that I haven't tried transcode at first. :-) At first, I tried ffmpeg to convert the DV material to MPEG2, but this script produced visible interlaced artifacts: dvgrab --format raw --frames 0 --size 0 film.dv ffmpeg -f dv -i film.dv -target dvd -b 3000 -ab 224 -s pal film.mpg The video and audio bitrates were chosen (after some trial and error) so three one-hour recordings fit on one DVD. Note, the target is "dvd", not "pal-dvd". Is it a problem? The resolution given is "pal". I am not sure though that the NTSC frame rate was converted to PAL frame rate. When I gave option "-deinterlace" to ffmpeg, it created an MPEG2 file that looked good for viewing on the computer. Then I tried to make a DVD from this file with DVDStyler, but replaying was jerky. However replaying the plain MPEG2 file was smooth. Replaying those MPEG2 files that I converted without "-deinterlace" were smooth on both DVD and plain but had interlaced artifacts. Unfortunately, the original DV file is now deleted and the DV cassette is overwritten, too. Now, how can I create a PAL DVD conforming MPEG2 file from this de-interlaced MPEG2 file? I am trying it now with this: transcode -i source.mpg -y mpeg2enc,mp2enc -b 224 \ --export_fps 25.0,3 -w 3000 --export_prof dvd-pal -o dest.mpg But: - It's slow, it's progressing with about 9.5 fps on my Athlon64. - It's converting the 224 kbit/sec AC3 to MP2. Option "-P 2" wasn't accepted by transcode. Please, help me speed it up. And please, also suggest a transcode command line, so the NTSC DV source is converted correctly to PAL resolution and frame rate in one go. I used DVDStyler from http://dvdstyler.sourceforge.net to create the DVD menu and file system, for replaying I used Xine if it's important. For the conversion, I used the RPMs from freshrpms.net, compiled from src.rpm files, e.g. ffmpeg-0.4.9-0.2.20050427.2.fc4.x86_64, transcode-1.0.0-1.rf.x86_64 and all the dependencies. Best regards, Zoltán Böszörményi From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sat Sep 10 21:53:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04FB126D92 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:53:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8AJp4Rd018125; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:51:04 +0200 Received: from guru.guru-group.fi (guru.megabaud.fi [212.54.0.62]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8AJp1Rd018105 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:51:01 +0200 Received: from guru.guru-group.fi (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by guru.guru-group.fi (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j8AJoxKR005695 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:51:00 +0300 Received: (from too@localhost) by guru.guru-group.fi (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j8AJox0H005693; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:50:59 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: guru.guru-group.fi: too set sender to tomi.ollila@iki.fi using -f X-Face: HhBM'cA~ Subject: Re: [transcode-users] The best quality OSS mpeg2 encoder? References: <4323105f.66526@msgid.achurch.org> From: Tomi Ollila Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:50:59 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4323105f.66526@msgid.achurch.org> (Andrew Church's message of "Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:54:30 JST") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) writes: >>> That's wrong. The ffmpeg bug can bite you even at rates of 3Mbps >>> (like it has me); the issue is that it can exceed the _maximum_ bitrate >>> which transcode sets to 9Mbps per default (DVD spec says the maximum is >>> 9800 kbps). It's not an issue of how it looks, it's an issue of whether >>> the video data is within spec or not. >> >>That's what I say (a little bit further on). It may bite you when you >>want an average bit rate of 9 Mbps or so. > > No no, you're misreading me. It bites you with an AVERAGE bitrate of > 3 Mbps, if your MAXIMUM bitrate is set too high (like 9 Mbps--which is what > transcode defaults to with --export-profile dvd, hence this is relevant to > ordinary transcoding). I've got bitten with this too. I've used ffmpeg to re-encoded some dvb-recorded material to a smapper size. W/ ffmpeg I used option -b 1860 to set the bitrate... Everything looked fine on computer but viewing the resulting stuff using dvd player gave me jerky output on tv (cartoon scene where much rain caused lot's of changes in picture -- I checked the .m2v video -- a that part all frames were I-frames...). In latest re-encodings I've used -b 1860 -maxrate 6000. I haven't checked the output (and whether there has been potentially problematic content there), but I hope I have better luck now. Tomi From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sat Sep 10 23:22:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60F1126D9A for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:22:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8ALJtRd023680; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:19:55 +0200 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (smtp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.29]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8ALJrRd023663 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:19:53 +0200 Received: from christian.marillat.net (marillat.net [82.225.139.42]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0954C244B7 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:19:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from marillat by christian.marillat.net with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EEClK-00013r-MN for transcode-users@exit1.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:19:50 +0200 From: Christian Marillat To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) In-Reply-To: <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> (Erik Slagter's message of "Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:04:35 +0200") References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Face: %bb}rHtkhdXe[kOd{$b>~C#vXV/f-TGTU{[j(@aYvg~5i3E"O+!TdhB,l|fu!F"v%1 $d/]Xn; [HuD"PPm6!cVD$FO!7FGEk1:-2y!<'k8.yWu_aso"c!Rn<&*}MKyl>Ym#H-Hj.; 'm3q |:`GheUw?{lt~;@j-a,x-r*A}5uJDxfW"/UgcSaB_Dwksz-MU3hLkF}%uwe._`u\Avd! Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:19:50 +0200 Message-ID: <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) XEmacs/21.4.17 (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter writes: > On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 15:14 +0200, Christian Iversen wrote: >> > yes, it was fixed a while ago. >> Oh I see. >> Just not in the debian maintainers version. I'll prod him :-) > > What's new :-( What is not new ? Don't release broken software then. Christian From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 00:30:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA37A126D90 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:30:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8AMSGRd028084; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:28:17 +0200 Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8AMSFRd028063 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:28:15 +0200 Received: from nova (81-178-84-55.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.84.55]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B680E0000F2 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:28:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from paul by nova with local id 1EEDpL-0007BW-MJ for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:28:03 +0100 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:28:03 +0100 From: Paul Walker To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) Message-ID: <20050910222803.GB14399@black-sun.demon.co.uk> References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 11:19:50PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > Don't release broken software then. Hi Christian, Just wondering if you were going to update your apt repository to transcode 1.0.0 at some point? Or are you sticking with 0.6.14 deliberately..? Thanks, -- Paul And the Baron's tendency to speak in rhyme is even worse. It's like the Atreides are engaged in a brutal blood feud with Dr. Seuss. -- Dave Helm on the Dune miniseries From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 01:05:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF65A126D90 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:05:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8AN2FRd030070; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:02:15 +0200 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8AN2DRd030050 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:02:13 +0200 Received: from christian.marillat.net (marillat.net [82.225.139.42]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2B528205 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:02:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from marillat by christian.marillat.net with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EEEMO-0001cy-J7 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:02:12 +0200 From: Christian Marillat To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) In-Reply-To: <20050910222803.GB14399@black-sun.demon.co.uk> (Paul Walker's message of "Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:28:03 +0100") References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050910222803.GB14399@black-sun.demon.co.uk> X-Face: %bb}rHtkhdXe[kOd{$b>~C#vXV/f-TGTU{[j(@aYvg~5i3E"O+!TdhB,l|fu!F"v%1 $d/]Xn; [HuD"PPm6!cVD$FO!7FGEk1:-2y!<'k8.yWu_aso"c!Rn<&*}MKyl>Ym#H-Hj.; 'm3q |:`GheUw?{lt~;@j-a,x-r*A}5uJDxfW"/UgcSaB_Dwksz-MU3hLkF}%uwe._`u\Avd! Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:02:12 +0200 Message-ID: <87fyscwmq3.fsf@christian.marillat.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) XEmacs/21.4.17 (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Paul Walker writes: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 11:19:50PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > >> Don't release broken software then. > > Hi Christian, Hi, > Just wondering if you were going to update your apt repository to transcode > 1.0.0 at some point? Or are you sticking with 0.6.14 deliberately..? The latest transcode on my repository is 2:1.0.0-0.6 for unstable. My package follow the Debian policy to move to testing so the latest package for testing is 2:0.6.14-0.7 Christian transcode (2:1.0.0-0.5) unstable; urgency=low * Build against the latest quicktime package 0.9.7 -- Christian Marillat Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:46:22 +0200 transcode (2:1.0.0-0.4) unstable; urgency=low * Use dpatch. * New patch to fix segfault with fast rescaling. -- Christian Marillat Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:27:18 +0200 transcode (2:1.0.0-0.3) unstable; urgency=low * Doesn't build with avifile support. For now avifile can't be built under unstable. I'll add again the avifile support, if a new package is uploaded in unstable. -- Christian Marillat Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:15:36 +0200 transcode (2:1.0.0-0.2) unstable; urgency=low * Add a version number (6.2.3.4-1) for libmagick6-dev build-dependency. * Rebuild for latest libavcodec package and update build-depends. -- Christian Marillat Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:38:04 +0200 transcode (2:1.0.0-0.1) unstable; urgency=low * Removed '| a52dec-dev' from build-depends. * Add libmpeg2-4-dev in Builde-depends. * libxxf86vm-dev build-depends is only for i386. -- Christian Marillat Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:55:13 +0200 transcode (2:1.0.0-0.0) unstable; urgency=low * New upstream release. * For now remove SDL support, the libsdl1.2-dev package isn't installable in unstable. * Removed 03_import_mplayer patch, included by upstream. -- Christian Marillat Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:54:35 +0200 From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 02:30:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BED126D90 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 02:30:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8B0R2Rd002262; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 02:27:02 +0200 Received: from mightylegends.zapto.org (ppp211-243.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.122.211.243]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8B0QwRd002239 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 02:26:59 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ppp211-243.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.122.211.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mightylegends.zapto.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2873C18432 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:56:42 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <432379DD.6000305@mightylegends.zapto.org> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:57:09 +0930 From: Rick Harris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050908) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Interlaced NTSC -> PAL DVD References: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> In-Reply-To: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: > Hi, > > here is the situation: my neighbour has a MiniDV camera > that he bought when he was in Canada. The camera obviously > produces NTSC interlaced material. > > He asked me to create DVDs from his recordings but > since we are in Hungary, I would like to make PAL DVDs. > > I was happy to see that dvgrab works like a charm. > Then came my tortures. Please, don't be offended that I haven't > tried transcode at first. :-) > > At first, I tried ffmpeg to convert the DV material to MPEG2, > but this script produced visible interlaced artifacts: > > dvgrab --format raw --frames 0 --size 0 film.dv > ffmpeg -f dv -i film.dv -target dvd -b 3000 -ab 224 -s pal film.mpg > > The video and audio bitrates were chosen (after some trial > and error) so three one-hour recordings fit on one DVD. > > Note, the target is "dvd", not "pal-dvd". Is it a problem? > The resolution given is "pal". I am not sure though that > the NTSC frame rate was converted to PAL frame rate. > > When I gave option "-deinterlace" to ffmpeg, it created > an MPEG2 file that looked good for viewing on the computer. > Then I tried to make a DVD from this file with DVDStyler, > but replaying was jerky. However replaying the plain MPEG2 > file was smooth. Replaying those MPEG2 files that I converted > without "-deinterlace" were smooth on both DVD and plain > but had interlaced artifacts. > > Unfortunately, the original DV file is now deleted and > the DV cassette is overwritten, too. > > Now, how can I create a PAL DVD conforming MPEG2 file > from this de-interlaced MPEG2 file? I am trying it now > with this: > > transcode -i source.mpg -y mpeg2enc,mp2enc -b 224 \ > --export_fps 25.0,3 -w 3000 --export_prof dvd-pal -o dest.mpg > > But: > > - It's slow, it's progressing with about 9.5 fps on my Athlon64. > - It's converting the 224 kbit/sec AC3 to MP2. Option "-P 2" > wasn't accepted by transcode. > > Please, help me speed it up. And please, also suggest a transcode > command line, so the NTSC DV source is converted correctly to PAL > resolution and frame rate in one go. Hi Zoltan, With the help of an overseas acquaintance who lives in NTSC land, I've done a fair amount of experimentation on converting interlaced NTSC DV material to PAL DVD. At this point I'd like to be able to paste a nice neat transcode line that does the trick, but unfortunately cannot. But would appreciate very much if some other user(s) can prove me wrong. The only way (AFAIK) to convert NTSC interlaced DV to perfectly smooth PAL DVD is to not de-interlace but to shift the interlace field order with mjpegtools. (Note that Transcode should be capable of this with the '--encode_fields' option, but has the same undesirable effect as ffmpeg's '-top' option, ie. it doesn't work & produces a strange rippling effect). When changing down from NTSC framerate of 29.97fps to PAL framerate of 25fps, don't drop or blend frames, simply adjust the video's header framerate (yuvfps -c) then adjust the audio speed accordingly without changing it's pitch (soundstretch). Here is the process: Install mjpegtools -> http://mjpeg.sourceforge.net/ Install libsndfile -> http://www.mega-nerd.com/libsndfile/ ##VIDEO## (all one command) lav2yuv -P 4:3 film.dv | \ yuvcorrect -T TOP_FORWARD -T INTERLACED_TOP_FIRST | \ yuvfps -c -r 25:1 | \ yuvscaler -O SIZE_720x576 | \ mpeg2enc -a2 -f8 -s -o film.m2v ##AUDIO## lav2wav film.dv > film_tmp.wav soundstretch film_tmp.wav film.wav -tempo=-16.5832499165832 ffmpeg -i film.wav -ar 48000 -ab 384 -ac 2 film.ac3 ##MUX TOGETHER## mplex -f8 -o film.vob film.m2v film.ac3 It's a shame you no longer have the original DV material, de-interlacing reduces the quality enormously, and is not necessary. Passing your already de-interlaced DV material through transcode should at least produce a bearably watchable video. Do give the above process a go on a DV file produced by dvgrab, the video encoding process is painfully slow but the quality is as good as the original, only in PAL DVD format :) Regards, Rick From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 03:14:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC36126D90 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 03:14:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8B1CaRd004773; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 03:12:36 +0200 Received: from mightylegends.zapto.org (ppp211-243.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.122.211.243]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8B1CWRd004753 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 03:12:34 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ppp211-243.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.122.211.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mightylegends.zapto.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C194318432 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:42:16 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <4323848C.8080707@mightylegends.zapto.org> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:42:44 +0930 From: Rick Harris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050908) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Interlaced NTSC -> PAL DVD References: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> <432379DD.6000305@mightylegends.zapto.org> In-Reply-To: <432379DD.6000305@mightylegends.zapto.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Rick Harris wrote: > Hi Zoltan, > > With the help of an overseas acquaintance who lives in NTSC land, I've > done a fair amount of experimentation on converting interlaced NTSC DV > material to PAL DVD. > > At this point I'd like to be able to paste a nice neat transcode line > that does the trick, but unfortunately cannot. > But would appreciate very much if some other user(s) can prove me wrong. > > The only way (AFAIK) to convert NTSC interlaced DV to perfectly smooth > PAL DVD is to not de-interlace but to shift the interlace field order > with mjpegtools. > (Note that Transcode should be capable of this with the > '--encode_fields' option, but has the same undesirable effect as > ffmpeg's '-top' option, ie. it doesn't work & produces a strange > rippling effect). > When changing down from NTSC framerate of 29.97fps to PAL framerate of > 25fps, don't drop or blend frames, simply adjust the video's header > framerate (yuvfps -c) then adjust the audio speed accordingly without > changing it's pitch (soundstretch). > > Here is the process: > Install mjpegtools -> http://mjpeg.sourceforge.net/ > Install libsndfile -> http://www.mega-nerd.com/libsndfile/ > > ##VIDEO## (all one command) > lav2yuv -P 4:3 film.dv | \ > yuvcorrect -T TOP_FORWARD -T INTERLACED_TOP_FIRST | \ > yuvfps -c -r 25:1 | \ > yuvscaler -O SIZE_720x576 | \ > mpeg2enc -a2 -f8 -s -o film.m2v > > > ##AUDIO## > lav2wav film.dv > film_tmp.wav > > soundstretch film_tmp.wav film.wav -tempo=-16.5832499165832 > > ffmpeg -i film.wav -ar 48000 -ab 384 -ac 2 film.ac3 > > > ##MUX TOGETHER## > mplex -f8 -o film.vob film.m2v film.ac3 > > > It's a shame you no longer have the original DV material, de-interlacing > reduces the quality enormously, and is not necessary. > Passing your already de-interlaced DV material through transcode should > at least produce a bearably watchable video. > Do give the above process a go on a DV file produced by dvgrab, the > video encoding process is painfully slow but the quality is as good as > the original, only in PAL DVD format :) **EDIT** Sorry, instead of installing libsndfile, install the following: Libsoundtouch -> http://sky.prohosting.com/oparviai/soundtouch/ This will provide you with the 'soundstretch' tool. Rick From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 06:51:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244D4126D90 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 06:51:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8B4m5Rd013664; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 06:48:05 +0200 Received: from mail231.csoft.net (qmailr@resin.csoft.net [63.111.22.86]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j8B4liRd013598 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 06:47:45 +0200 Received: (qmail 19190 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2005 04:49:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO puff.jakemsr.gom) (63.111.27.87) by mail231.csoft.net with SMTP; 11 Sep 2005 04:49:02 -0000 Received: (from jakemsr@jakemsr.com) by puff.jakemsr.gom (mini_sendmail/1.3.5 16nov2003); Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:47:39 PDT (sender jakemsr@puff.jakemsr.gom) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:47:39 -0700 From: Jacob Meuser To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) Message-ID: <20050911044739.GA6805@puff.jakemsr.gom> Mail-Followup-To: transcode Users Mailing List References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 11:19:50PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > Erik Slagter writes: > > > On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 15:14 +0200, Christian Iversen wrote: > >> > yes, it was fixed a while ago. > >> Oh I see. > >> Just not in the debian maintainers version. I'll prod him :-) > > > > What's new :-( > > What is not new ? > > Don't release broken software then. Only if people test the software before it's released. I was surprised at the number of bug reports right after release, when we had been in a really slow development cycle for _weeks_ before the release, and I asked people to test many times ... -- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 09:35:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18005126D95 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:35:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8B7WuRd027503; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:32:56 +0200 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8B7WrRd027479 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:32:54 +0200 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i22so1285382wra for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:32:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=YxFYitOwLS2BxmQdETy7VNCccCmvRjAr8KQUPZyGOdL9PfK90/+b+bmjvpsmw3WOibv5t3v44PbELaWcs31MKHWZxMWzOcn5zhSiQgxf22qLQvk/GyLBG9MJkEed/maHqJuTnUxuSbqZv28iwcjkAjfPBIIPiWXmu6mRfxCjIaA= Received: by 10.54.15.20 with SMTP id 20mr1675188wro; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.70.11 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <22f551e305091100322da559a6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 04:32:48 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn_Gaitan?= To: transcode-users@exit1.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id j8B7WrRd027479 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] installing transcode in ubuntu 5.04 amd64 X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gaitan@gmail.com, transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi everybody, I'm Martin from argentina, I need to install transcode because I want use dvd::rip, but at the moment there is not a package of trasncode for amd64 in the repositories. Looking for some help, I found this wiki about an specific repository for amd64, http://tamir.nooms.de/wiki/doku.php?id=packages and trasncode is listed on the request... so I'm not alone with this problem. Really I'm a beginner in linux (and writing english too, sorry) so is very difficult to me install transcode from the sources. I read the instructions here http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?Building_Transcode but there is a lot of flags that I dont undestand, and I dont know which is the path to the almost all mandatory packages. So, I need a full command line with all neccesary options to install transcode. By the way, if somebody know how to make a .deb package for this arquitecture, it'll be wonderfull. thanks a lot. I hope that you can understand my poor english. Bye. Martin From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 09:51:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B88126D95 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:51:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8B7kNRd028062; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:46:23 +0200 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr (smtp1-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.27]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8B7kLRd028046 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:46:21 +0200 Received: from christian.marillat.net (marillat.net [82.225.139.42]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F012E831 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:46:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from marillat by christian.marillat.net with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EEMXc-0002Ix-LJ for transcode-users@exit1.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:46:20 +0200 From: Christian Marillat To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) In-Reply-To: <20050911044739.GA6805@puff.jakemsr.gom> (Jacob Meuser's message of "Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:47:39 -0700") References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050911044739.GA6805@puff.jakemsr.gom> X-Face: %bb}rHtkhdXe[kOd{$b>~C#vXV/f-TGTU{[j(@aYvg~5i3E"O+!TdhB,l|fu!F"v%1 $d/]Xn; [HuD"PPm6!cVD$FO!7FGEk1:-2y!<'k8.yWu_aso"c!Rn<&*}MKyl>Ym#H-Hj.; 'm3q |:`GheUw?{lt~;@j-a,x-r*A}5uJDxfW"/UgcSaB_Dwksz-MU3hLkF}%uwe._`u\Avd! Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:46:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87ll24oxmb.fsf@christian.marillat.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) XEmacs/21.4.17 (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Jacob Meuser writes: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 11:19:50PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: [...] >> Don't release broken software then. > > Only if people test the software before it's released. > > I was surprised at the number of bug reports right after release, when > we had been in a really slow development cycle for _weeks_ before the > release, and I asked people to test many times ... Users are not beta-testers. Most users don't want to test something and don't like -pre release. Myself I've not seen the de-interlacing and fast resize bugs because I don't use these options. Christian From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 12:09:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F22126D95 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:09:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BA6WRd002445; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:06:32 +0200 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BA6TRd002421 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:06:30 +0200 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so255021nzf for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 03:06:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=X9hOk/kcnoDJB6Pj+i5m8x0cxEASTUBnS2udU5opaB1/3gnDAebcDNo6ymhQupeVJeAXLnG3xicv4BmJ7wuzvfNardXjXL6oao2qrDvSqhMJ22uBtFZCCYZXuNL6oCnOvk9wpi8vZSEdV3PH8iMqpAuOpXTT0t47tuTf9NwaEeU= Received: by 10.36.220.54 with SMTP id s54mr1891988nzg; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 03:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [68.13.3.105]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 15sm1820655nzp.2005.09.11.03.06.22; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 03:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4324019C.9050300@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 05:06:20 -0500 From: Eric P User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050602) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode-users@exit1.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_BY_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] NTSC and clipping for 16:9 TVs X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org I'd like to start this thread again fresh and also try to start again with Mr. Ehrens. A few weeks back I hit a local electronics store clutching a handful of my home brewed DVDs. The mission was to test and hopefully determine appropriate clipping values for NTSC systems on 16:9 aspect ratio (AR) TVs. The DVDs I carried were a mixture of both 4:3 and 16:9 AR vids which either had no clipping set or had the 4:3 clipping values (-j -18,-34,-22,-34). The clipping I noticed wasn't consistent w/NTSC 4:3 clipping. One of the DVDs I was viewing had lots of text near the edges which gave me a pretty good guide to estimate where the clipping was occurring. My initial values were (-j -7,-22,-17,-18) which allows for just a fraction of bleed (i.e., lost video). One problem with these values (or the TV?) is that the left/right values above are not the same. So for the time being, I've been transcoding with adjusted values (j -7,-18,-17,-18) to make the left side the same as the right assuming and that it's better to lose a bit more video and have equal values. I'm not sure if this reasoning is reasonable or not, but it lets me sleep at night. ;) Unfortunately, I didn't make note of the brand/model of TV I was viewing on as I do suspect clipping my differ a bit from model to model. Also, there are a few viewing settings for 16:9 TVs which significantly(?) alter how a DVD is displayed (ex., I think one setting is like a zoom setting which attempts to compensate for clipping). I did check the settings of the TV I was viewing on, and the view mode was the default (i.e., no compensation I believe). In closing, if anyone has a chance to try out these values, I'd be curious to hear how everything comes out. Eric From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 12:15:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4888F126D9A for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:15:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BADCRd002850; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:13:12 +0200 Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BA8NRd002543 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:08:23 +0200 Received: from nova (81-178-84-55.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.84.55]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF3DE0000D9 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:08:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from paul by nova with local id 1EEOkx-0004JI-3o for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:08:15 +0100 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:08:15 +0100 From: Paul Walker To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) Message-ID: <20050911100814.GD29370@black-sun.demon.co.uk> References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050910222803.GB14399@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <87fyscwmq3.fsf@christian.marillat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87fyscwmq3.fsf@christian.marillat.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 01:02:12AM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > The latest transcode on my repository is 2:1.0.0-0.6 for unstable. My > package follow the Debian policy to move to testing so the latest > package for testing is 2:0.6.14-0.7 I can see the packages in the directory, but both apt: paul@nova:~$ apt-cache policy transcode transcode: Installed: 2:0.6.14-0.5 Candidate: 2:0.6.14-0.5 Version Table: *** 2:0.6.14-0.5 0 600 ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status and ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages: Package: transcode [...] Version: 2:0.6.14-0.5 say that the version is 0.6.14-0.5. Some kind of problem updating the packages file? -- Paul I'm having a hard job printing out CVs and covering letters when my printer isn't attached to my computer in any way. - Martin Lewis From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 12:21:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E094126D9A for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:21:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BAH9Rd002995; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:17:09 +0200 Received: from ranger.systems.pipex.net (ranger.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.32]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BA9GRd002608 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:09:16 +0200 Received: from nova (81-178-84-55.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.84.55]) by ranger.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9370BE0000AA for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:09:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from paul by nova with local id 1EEOlo-0004Jb-Ec for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:09:08 +0100 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:09:08 +0100 From: Paul Walker To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) Message-ID: <20050911100908.GE29370@black-sun.demon.co.uk> References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050911044739.GA6805@puff.jakemsr.gom> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050911044739.GA6805@puff.jakemsr.gom> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 09:47:39PM -0700, Jacob Meuser wrote: > I was surprised at the number of bug reports right after release, when we > had been in a really slow development cycle for _weeks_ before the > release, and I asked people to test many times ... Why are you surprised? Most people don't want to run pre-release software. The Linux kernel found the same thing... -- Paul I discovered I scream the same way whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot. -- Axel Rose From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 12:22:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F0C126D95 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:22:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BAL8Rd003215; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:21:08 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BAK4Rd003169 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:20:04 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 2496014340BF; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:20:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 2C95543C0C5; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:19:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <200509101812.57788.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200509101812.57788.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-+A0Q0GUmR2VpITLCExGv" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:19:32 +0200 Message-Id: <1126433973.4839.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-+A0Q0GUmR2VpITLCExGv Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 18:12 +0200, Christian Iversen wrote: > > > Oh I see. > > > Just not in the debian maintainers version. I'll prod him :-) > > > > What's new :-( >=20 > Oh, bugger :-( >=20 > Well, at least I have an internal package now, based off of transcode-cvs= =20 > head. It works, btw.=20 Yeah, I think that's the way to go. 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From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <4323105f.66526@msgid.achurch.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-dl5KrR98UjmQvfpmSfkF" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:21:43 +0200 Message-Id: <1126434103.4839.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-dl5KrR98UjmQvfpmSfkF Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 22:50 +0300, Tomi Ollila wrote: > > No no, you're misreading me. It bites you with an AVERAGE bitrate= of > > 3 Mbps, if your MAXIMUM bitrate is set too high (like 9 Mbps--which is = what > > transcode defaults to with --export-profile dvd, hence this is relevant= to > > ordinary transcoding). >=20 >=20 > I've got bitten with this too. I've used ffmpeg to re-encoded some > dvb-recorded material to a smapper size. W/ ffmpeg I used option > -b 1860 to set the bitrate... Everything looked fine on computer > but viewing the resulting stuff using dvd player gave me jerky output > on tv (cartoon scene where much rain caused lot's of changes in picture > -- I checked the .m2v video -- a that part all frames were I-frames...). > In latest re-encodings I've used -b 1860 -maxrate 6000. I haven't checked > the output (and whether there has been potentially problematic content > there), but I hope I have better luck now. 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(partial fix) From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-l5xyqYPTwYLgsvLTH9mJ" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:26:36 +0200 Message-Id: <1126434396.4839.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-l5xyqYPTwYLgsvLTH9mJ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 23:19 +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > >> > yes, it was fixed a while ago. > >> Oh I see. > >> Just not in the debian maintainers version. I'll prod him :-) > > What's new :-( > What is not new ? > Don't release broken software then. That's exactly the fundamental difference of opinion I have with the debian philosophy. Debian says new software introduces new bugs, I say new software resolves bugs. One should at least give the user the chance to decide for itself which bugs (old or new) it can live with best. Also new bugs won't get detected (and fixed) if people are not using the new versions. 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(partial fix) From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20050910222803.GB14399@black-sun.demon.co.uk> References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050910222803.GB14399@black-sun.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-sWud5FaIGfZIZmw47OTA" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:29:29 +0200 Message-Id: <1126434569.4839.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-sWud5FaIGfZIZmw47OTA Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 23:28 +0100, Paul Walker wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 11:19:50PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: >=20 > > Don't release broken software then. >=20 > Hi Christian, >=20 > Just wondering if you were going to update your apt repository to transco= de > 1.0.0 at some point? Or are you sticking with 0.6.14 deliberately..? Just for the record: every transcode version has almost the same level of broken-ness, old bugs get resolved, new code gets added (including bugs). So imho there really is no reason at all to stick to 0.6.14. 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Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:42:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BAeKRd004375; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:40:20 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BAb3Rd004169 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:37:03 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id BEE4914340BF; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:37:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 9730643C0C5; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:36:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Interlaced NTSC -> PAL DVD From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <432379DD.6000305@mightylegends.zapto.org> References: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> <432379DD.6000305@mightylegends.zapto.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-l7COHxokXpUFDaWDRzbt" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:36:48 +0200 Message-Id: <1126435008.4839.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-l7COHxokXpUFDaWDRzbt Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 09:57 +0930, Rick Harris wrote: > The only way (AFAIK) to convert NTSC interlaced DV to perfectly smooth=20 > PAL DVD is to not de-interlace but to shift the interlace field order=20 > with mjpegtools. Actually you should nearly never deinterlace while encoding. It's a lossy function you can never reverse. > (Note that Transcode should be capable of this with the=20 > '--encode_fields' option, but has the same undesirable effect as=20 > ffmpeg's '-top' option, ie. it doesn't work & produces a strange=20 > rippling effect). ??? Are you sure that you actually understand what these option do? They do not deinterlace at all (which is good) but only set a flag in the mpeg stream, that the stream is interlaced and how, so that your dvd player + tv set can do the right thing. > When changing down from NTSC framerate of 29.97fps to PAL framerate of=20 > 25fps, don't drop or blend frames, simply adjust the video's header=20 > framerate (yuvfps -c) then adjust the audio speed accordingly without=20 > changing it's pitch (soundstretch). If the sound is ok (iow there has been used only 1 framerate, which I guess is a valid assumption for a privately shot dv video) and the framerate happens to be 30001/1001 and not 24001/1001 (which also seems a valid assumption to me), then I guess the simple solution would be to reverse the layout of the fields (top -> bottom and vv). Trancode has a filter for that. 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From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <4323105f.66526@msgid.achurch.org> References: <4323105f.66526@msgid.achurch.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-FGC241E3v+OC9lsB+2vy" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:40:28 +0200 Message-Id: <1126435228.4839.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-FGC241E3v+OC9lsB+2vy Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 01:54 +0000, Andrew Church wrote: > >> That's wrong. The ffmpeg bug can bite you even at rates of 3Mbps > >> (like it has me); the issue is that it can exceed the _maximum_ bitrat= e > >> which transcode sets to 9Mbps per default (DVD spec says the maximum i= s > >> 9800 kbps). It's not an issue of how it looks, it's an issue of wheth= er > >> the video data is within spec or not. > > > >That's what I say (a little bit further on). It may bite you when you > >want an average bit rate of 9 Mbps or so. >=20 > No no, you're misreading me. It bites you with an AVERAGE bitrate o= f > 3 Mbps, if your MAXIMUM bitrate is set too high (like 9 Mbps--which is wh= at > transcode defaults to with --export-profile dvd, hence this is relevant t= o > ordinary transcoding). >=20 > >BTW this also only counts for two-pass encoding (which I never do anyway= ). >=20 > This is true, but I on the other hand always use two-pass (for the > reasons I give on the wiki), and I have in fact had to deal with this > several times at ordinary bitrates, like 3-4 Mbps. I guess we'll have to form some sort of an armed gang, and ehrm... lightly persuade Michael to finish the job ;-) --=-FGC241E3v+OC9lsB+2vy Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIGFjCCAs8w ggI4oAMCAQICAw9TczANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhh d3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVt YWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDUwODE4MTE1NDA1WhcNMDYwODE4MTE1NDA1WjBDMR8wHQYDVQQD ExZUaGF3dGUgRnJlZW1haWwgTWVtYmVyMSAwHgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhFlcmlrQHNsYWd0ZXIubmFt ZTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBANAMKW15OgreNb+Wd++Xcw6uNJUXXIfX 56u1rtTObMmbbDY2wNc4Iqwbuwaysvox3z+YElXBibE8BAyV1iMjhee4mOfAy38dGHtWDxhOGke8 VpkyY8DSWgMN5p4egTiT6YNdHW75iiQ+Vh5zMHju1UXnIqgf5zkUGkNuxYp15jLZvRDbfA5H+Sil jbZGB2fiPOJHpyI61ZidcMgdow31qm70/oe6vXxhSZLzo7OLvExE+mQHwbCSIJMN/hPTK1z0lmQ1 kkaEjHrefqIgoF9Dk/WfOtulzvR3xBzDL50GZ32BxT/OhXYe1SHEJpSM1S/aq8TBQJYwjzREWyDh 0OYsmr0CAwEAAaMuMCwwHAYDVR0RBBUwE4ERZXJpa0BzbGFndGVyLm5hbWUwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIw ADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQCCpzoneRQIKsUO8zSnwQ7yhJTrS/EaDibiIVrkkCbzXwCiHFAi 7nmTRF0DlLVF3Ssf97ITWT/RSdkj9Xke0OHH7724PJdfpA6OglMnx2i7IcJLzPgPjB+fOmfR0nYX UYKuzGxTOXmshLmPcwKdpFuRLLk7n+vrTAwJYJI++crhJzCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZI hvcNAQEFBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcT CUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmlj YXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFp bCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMzA3 MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUg Q29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwg SXNzdWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV+065yplaHmjAdQRw nd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNaLIkVcI7dyfArhVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+R NiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUqVIUPSAR/p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEA AaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1UdHwQ8MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwu dGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWlsQ0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNV HREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxhYmVsMi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEA SIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/TCG4+DYfqi2fNi/A9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6GX6E sZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amcOY6MIE9lX5Xa9/eH1sYITq726jTlEBpbNU1341YheILc IRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggHvMIIB6wIBATBpMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3 dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1h aWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIDD1NzMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgXTAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcB MBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNTA5MTExMDQwMjhaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBTgx/823u+XdA4l hYo3/lzXiM4q8DANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQBMXQLorKr/UWOEvhY+RpdzVNd908SYRpI9Slmo 59hmur+Ry9PAT7r0RUTDk0i9IGZZUknrR5GKYgHElZCXFCiY20JIPaN4EPKfHkOYWmU58Cl9AjAx R69FG6R+QSCHoQcMhETPHSYXZn1Lo0RHIXF/emhvbS+HSwdhdDMFWijpRh5T2AcjjbxhShPrkmxi 77RJdd5mf/b5gsx3OK84NKFlfOg/HPWcVd2LVwrKg8eScmCfuUs7lg9+vt1PAFovOzYPbd9mtITE NMU6c3Ib7BekWYtPIviedVGdwWsR84LD46zoSkFVxCP/jRw5Frd6oZf0lyEU7z3hqelRS0wMDnUK AAAAAAAA --=-FGC241E3v+OC9lsB+2vy-- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 12:50:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74425126D95 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:50:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BAm3Rd004852; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:48:03 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BAj3Rd004681 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:45:03 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id B6B4614340BF; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:45:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 8FCBA43C0C5; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:44:22 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20050911044739.GA6805@puff.jakemsr.gom> References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050911044739.GA6805@puff.jakemsr.gom> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-xFE8roCIoIgC2pzITXyb" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:44:22 +0200 Message-Id: <1126435462.4839.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-xFE8roCIoIgC2pzITXyb Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 21:47 -0700, Jacob Meuser wrote: > > What is not new ? > > Don't release broken software then. > Only if people test the software before it's released. >=20 > I was surprised at the number of bug reports right after release, when > we had been in a really slow development cycle for _weeks_ before the > release, and I asked people to test many times ... I do have a suspicion. People await the release version, expecting in that version all bugs will be gone. But how will we fix bugs that are never found because nobody installed the pre-release version. I like the approach of ffmpeg, in practise there actually no releases, bug reports are only accepted for cvs versions, but if you have a real bug, it's fixed within a day, most of the time. Simply cvs update & compile, and the problem is gone. 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(partial fix) References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050910222803.GB14399@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <1126434569.4839.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1126434569.4839.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter wrote: > On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 23:28 +0100, Paul Walker wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 11:19:50PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: >> >>> Don't release broken software then. >> Hi Christian, >> >> Just wondering if you were going to update your apt repository to transcode >> 1.0.0 at some point? Or are you sticking with 0.6.14 deliberately..? > > Just for the record: every transcode version has almost the same level > of broken-ness, old bugs get resolved, new code gets added (including > bugs). So imho there really is no reason at all to stick to 0.6.14. Also > it's ehrm... no fun to see piles of bug reports of bugs that have been > resolved long ago. I just want to use this occasion, to thank both of you, erik and christian, for the great work done, to make video (post) production on a linux system manageable! peter From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 12:57:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FD2126D95 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:57:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BAtwRd005383; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:55:58 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BAq4Rd005110 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:52:04 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 17B6914340BF; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:52:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 6FE1543C0C5; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:51:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] NTSC and clipping for 16:9 TVs From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <4324019C.9050300@gmail.com> References: <4324019C.9050300@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-hhHtMNAGaZwDRwTaeeaV" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:51:13 +0200 Message-Id: <1126435873.4839.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-hhHtMNAGaZwDRwTaeeaV Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 05:06 -0500, Eric P wrote: > The clipping I noticed wasn't consistent w/NTSC 4:3 clipping. One of > the DVDs I was viewing had lots of text near the edges which gave me a > pretty good guide to estimate where the clipping was occurring. My > initial values were (-j -7,-22,-17,-18) which allows for just a fraction > of bleed (i.e., lost video). Keep in mind that the "overscan" is not a standard (nor a good thing). It varies per TV set. Actually it's just the (semi-random?) setting of an internal potentiometer. So you can never get it completely right for all TV sets. The next-best option would be to open up the television set and adjust this knob until the overscan is gone [actually forget this, I didn't say this, high voltage inside, very dangerous, do not try this at home!] > One problem with these values (or the TV?) is that the left/right values > above are not the same. So for the time being, I've been transcoding > with adjusted values (j -7,-18,-17,-18) to make the left side the same > as the right assuming and that it's better to lose a bit more video and > have equal values. I'm not sure if this reasoning is reasonable or not, > but it lets me sleep at night. ;) Hmmm, your TV set also doesn't have the centring right I am afraid. > Unfortunately, I didn't make note of the brand/model of TV I was viewing > on as I do suspect clipping my differ a bit from model to model. Also, > there are a few viewing settings for 16:9 TVs which significantly(?) > alter how a DVD is displayed (ex., I think one setting is like a zoom > setting which attempts to compensate for clipping). I did check the > settings of the TV I was viewing on, and the view mode was the default > (i.e., no compensation I believe). 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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:47:08 JST In-Reply-To: <1126434103.4839.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.20 Message-ID: <43240c76.67415@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >> I've got bitten with this too. I've used ffmpeg to re-encoded some >> dvb-recorded material to a smapper size. W/ ffmpeg I used option >> -b 1860 to set the bitrate... Everything looked fine on computer >> but viewing the resulting stuff using dvd player gave me jerky output >> on tv (cartoon scene where much rain caused lot's of changes in picture >> -- I checked the .m2v video -- a that part all frames were I-frames...). >> In latest re-encodings I've used -b 1860 -maxrate 6000. I haven't checked >> the output (and whether there has been potentially problematic content >> there), but I hope I have better luck now. > >So I guess the default maxrate of transcode should be adjusted? That would probably be the best option in terms of standards compliance. Personally I prefer to keep it at 9000 kbps and lower it only when mplex complains, but that's what ffmpeg.cfg is for ;) Patch below, though it may be worth documenting elsewhere so people are aware of it. --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Index: export/export_ffmpeg.c =================================================================== RCS file: /cvstc/transcode/export/export_ffmpeg.c,v retrieving revision 1.50 diff -u -r1.50 export_ffmpeg.c --- export/export_ffmpeg.c 12 Jul 2005 06:58:36 -0000 1.50 +++ export/export_ffmpeg.c 11 Sep 2005 10:50:40 -0000 @@ -683,7 +683,7 @@ lavc_venc_context->gop_size = vob->divxkeyframes; lavc_param_rc_min_rate = 0; - lavc_param_rc_max_rate = 9000; + lavc_param_rc_max_rate = 6000; /*FIXME: ffmpeg exceeds maxrate in 2-pass*/ lavc_param_rc_buffer_size = 224 * 8; lavc_param_rc_buffer_aggressivity = 99; From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 13:10:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAD9126D95 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:10:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BB8QRd006295; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:08:26 +0200 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j8BArLRd005204 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:53:22 +0200 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 43240ca0.67423; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:53:20 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] The best quality OSS mpeg2 encoder? Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:53:05 JST In-Reply-To: <1126435228.4839.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.20 Message-ID: <43240ca0.67423@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >I guess we'll have to form some sort of an armed gang, and ehrm... >lightly persuade Michael to finish the job ;-) Count me in ;) --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 13:16:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A9B126D9A for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:16:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BBCvRd006500; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:12:57 +0200 Received: from vagranthosting01.vagrantweb.com (vagranthosting01.vagrantweb.com [67.18.220.98]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BAsqRd005310 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:54:53 +0200 Received: (qmail 707 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2005 05:54:45 -0500 Received: from p139.net059084008.tnc.ne.jp (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (59.84.8.139) by southerncontractingllc.com with SMTP; 11 Sep 2005 05:54:45 -0500 Message-ID: <432409A0.6080600@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:40:32 +0900 From: Joe Friedrichsen Organization: Pengi Films User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] The best quality OSS mpeg2 encoder? References: <43215F95.5000405@gmail.com> <1126343540.4766.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1126343540.4766.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode-users@exit1.org List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter wrote: >On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 19:10 +0900, Joe Friedrichsen wrote: > >>I found a basic comparison between ffmpeg and mpeg2enc here: >>http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?FFmpeg_Vs._Mpeg2enc >>that confirms ffmpeg's bitrate control problem (and a more brief >>description in the newsgroups: >>http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.ffmpeg.user/481). > >Please keep in mind those postings (and the opinions even more) are >mostly based on versions of libavcodec from years ago. FFmpeg is one of >the fastest moving open source projects around. That's also why you >should always use CVS. Thanks for your clarifying answers. It was definitely a 'there is no spoon' moment for me when I realized that libavcodec is the actual encoder during my reading. >>Second, evaluate the encoders. The first step here would be research - >>look for others' work to avoid rehashing known facts. I've done some >>googling and haven't found much quantitative information comparing the >>stream quality of streams encoded by mpeg2enc and libavcodec > >Bottom line: both are good encoders, libavcodec has some options to make >it work faster (imho a lot, but opinions vary on this subject) but also >less precise (bitrate and max compression, not quality). In some very >rare cases of a very picky decoder, mpeg2enc tends to give better >results. Also mpeg2enc is way easier to use from the command line, >because it only makes mpeg program streams with mpeg2 video. Another plus for mpeg2enc is the rest of the mjpegtools - there are many different pre-processing utilities available to adjust picture properties. And, for libavcodec - if you use mencoder as the means, you can take advantage of the mencoder's filters. Regarding the 2-pass bitrate irregularity, what is a good work-around? How badly does libavcodec jump over the maximum bitrate? Joe From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 13:20:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFB9126D9A for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:20:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BBISRd006941; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:18:28 +0200 Received: from vsmtp1.tin.it (vsmtp1.tin.it [212.216.176.141]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BAxPRd005568 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:59:25 +0200 Received: from azafuse.rokugan.lan (82.49.165.27) by vsmtp1.tin.it (7.2.060.1) id 4316DA98005389C1 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:59:16 +0200 Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) From: Francesco Romani To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <1126435462.4839.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050911044739.GA6805@puff.jakemsr.gom> <1126435462.4839.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Rokugan emerald empire Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:59:18 +0200 Message-Id: <1126436358.10979.2.camel@azafuse.rokugan.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: francesco.romani@email.it, transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 12:44 +0200, Erik Slagter wrote: > I do have a suspicion. People await the release version, expecting in > that version all bugs will be gone. But how will we fix bugs that are > never found because nobody installed the pre-release version. I also think so. Most of such problems should gone away with a base of beta-testers (and automated testing) large enough, but this objective isn't easy to reach. Actual developers and testers of course can't find bugs in code sections which they don't use (es: some SSE sections for me, I'm on amd64 and TC uses -correctly- SSE2). > I like the approach of ffmpeg, in practise there actually no releases, > bug reports are only accepted for cvs versions, but if you have a real > bug, it's fixed within a day, most of the time. Simply cvs update & > compile, and the problem is gone. This way software actually gets fixed. In my opinion this is not so much different for new development model in linux 2.6. :) -- Francesco Romani -- Ikitt 'In fact, users don't read /anything/' -- Joel Spolsky void *a, *b; a != b; --violates patent #437822 [http://snipurl.com/ar6e] From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 13:53:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84B9126D95 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:53:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BBp9Rd008573; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:51:09 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BBp5Rd008544 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:51:05 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 214AD14340BF; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:51:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id EAF0943C0C5; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:50:50 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <43240C0D.40504@myzel.net> References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050910222803.GB14399@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <1126434569.4839.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43240C0D.40504@myzel.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-a4qHSe2socbo1AQ/oN9d" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:50:50 +0200 Message-Id: <1126439450.4839.48.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-a4qHSe2socbo1AQ/oN9d Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 12:50 +0200, Peter Chiocchetti wrote: > I just want to use this occasion, to thank both of you, erik and=20 > christian, for the great work done, to make video (post) production on a=20 > linux system manageable! That's too much credit for me. 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(partial fix) From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <1126436358.10979.2.camel@azafuse.rokugan.lan> References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050911044739.GA6805@puff.jakemsr.gom> <1126435462.4839.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1126436358.10979.2.camel@azafuse.rokugan.lan> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-tCK+HQzaNJAMllpNSFGN" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:51:49 +0200 Message-Id: <1126439509.4839.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-tCK+HQzaNJAMllpNSFGN Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 12:59 +0200, Francesco Romani wrote: > > I like the approach of ffmpeg, in practise there actually no releases, > > bug reports are only accepted for cvs versions, but if you have a real > > bug, it's fixed within a day, most of the time. Simply cvs update & > > compile, and the problem is gone. This way software actually gets fixed= . >=20 > In my opinion this is not so much different for new development model > in linux 2.6. :) Which I also like, btw. --=-tCK+HQzaNJAMllpNSFGN Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIGFjCCAs8w ggI4oAMCAQICAw9TczANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhh d3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVt YWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDUwODE4MTE1NDA1WhcNMDYwODE4MTE1NDA1WjBDMR8wHQYDVQQD ExZUaGF3dGUgRnJlZW1haWwgTWVtYmVyMSAwHgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhFlcmlrQHNsYWd0ZXIubmFt ZTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBANAMKW15OgreNb+Wd++Xcw6uNJUXXIfX 56u1rtTObMmbbDY2wNc4Iqwbuwaysvox3z+YElXBibE8BAyV1iMjhee4mOfAy38dGHtWDxhOGke8 VpkyY8DSWgMN5p4egTiT6YNdHW75iiQ+Vh5zMHju1UXnIqgf5zkUGkNuxYp15jLZvRDbfA5H+Sil jbZGB2fiPOJHpyI61ZidcMgdow31qm70/oe6vXxhSZLzo7OLvExE+mQHwbCSIJMN/hPTK1z0lmQ1 kkaEjHrefqIgoF9Dk/WfOtulzvR3xBzDL50GZ32BxT/OhXYe1SHEJpSM1S/aq8TBQJYwjzREWyDh 0OYsmr0CAwEAAaMuMCwwHAYDVR0RBBUwE4ERZXJpa0BzbGFndGVyLm5hbWUwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIw ADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQCCpzoneRQIKsUO8zSnwQ7yhJTrS/EaDibiIVrkkCbzXwCiHFAi 7nmTRF0DlLVF3Ssf97ITWT/RSdkj9Xke0OHH7724PJdfpA6OglMnx2i7IcJLzPgPjB+fOmfR0nYX UYKuzGxTOXmshLmPcwKdpFuRLLk7n+vrTAwJYJI++crhJzCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZI hvcNAQEFBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcT CUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmlj YXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFp bCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMzA3 MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUg Q29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwg SXNzdWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV+065yplaHmjAdQRw nd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNaLIkVcI7dyfArhVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+R NiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUqVIUPSAR/p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEA AaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1UdHwQ8MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwu dGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWlsQ0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNV HREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxhYmVsMi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEA SIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/TCG4+DYfqi2fNi/A9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6GX6E sZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amcOY6MIE9lX5Xa9/eH1sYITq726jTlEBpbNU1341YheILc IRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggHvMIIB6wIBATBpMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3 dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1h aWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIDD1NzMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgXTAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcB MBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNTA5MTExMTUxNDlaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBSpwwW0zIlt9UyZ g6Yt6H5rWiSyxTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQA7QScNSKxo+Fv+iQavc74XqHJPBZzNVKRfcLI4 6q+tRO/ZlsI6F1Jou8hZqfHWe8MhwrFL8lli/TbWQQmFXPrD1PyMuqHl/qtbr+3bXGZmXrNcixnp n9FC9XFEGyvAFgfmMJFHybm7y9TSNFjzlPlYtuBgJ2wKT0SsgzXu6I0WwamldQ2j3j8Jelu5DmTU aX6kbP4wMvVx2yNhoThLegLFZPMjdGlPYtu03HXyHqFEr1uU201PtklzFT1Rw9Gbnvia/aYyU+/k ArL2ezkP85o9mUixOEiSf+WNX455IOmCL2qLbi33/rxKtq6YOkT2crURlPgzzpJGMD3BBHdPPFyb AAAAAAAA --=-tCK+HQzaNJAMllpNSFGN-- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 14:00:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8388126D95 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:00:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BBx2Rd009080; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:59:02 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BBv3Rd008929 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:57:03 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 6631714340BF; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:57:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 1091943C0C5; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:56:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] The best quality OSS mpeg2 encoder? From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <43240c76.67415@msgid.achurch.org> References: <43240c76.67415@msgid.achurch.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-9AmtKQtEYvPqM6tfIYry" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:56:31 +0200 Message-Id: <1126439791.4839.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-9AmtKQtEYvPqM6tfIYry Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 19:47 +0000, Andrew Church wrote: > >So I guess the default maxrate of transcode should be adjusted? > That would probably be the best option in terms of standards > compliance. Personally I prefer to keep it at 9000 kbps and lower it onl= y > when mplex complains, but that's what ffmpeg.cfg is for ;) Patch below, > though it may be worth documenting elsewhere so people are aware of it. 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From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <43240ca0.67423@msgid.achurch.org> References: <43240ca0.67423@msgid.achurch.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-mcoT3Ko/QkwUDh9YfUqf" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:57:23 +0200 Message-Id: <1126439843.4839.54.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-mcoT3Ko/QkwUDh9YfUqf Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 19:53 +0000, Andrew Church wrote: > >I guess we'll have to form some sort of an armed gang, and ehrm... > >lightly persuade Michael to finish the job ;-) >=20 > Count me in ;) Yeah, really this must be fixed and there is only one who knows how it works :-( I guess it's not even that much work. --=-mcoT3Ko/QkwUDh9YfUqf Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; 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Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:35:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BCX7Rd011141; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:33:07 +0200 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (smtp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.29]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BCX4Rd011116 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:33:05 +0200 Received: from christian.marillat.net (marillat.net [82.225.139.42]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94E52496C for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:33:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from marillat by christian.marillat.net with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EER16-00043W-Tk for transcode-users@exit1.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:33:04 +0200 From: Christian Marillat To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) In-Reply-To: <20050911100814.GD29370@black-sun.demon.co.uk> (Paul Walker's message of "Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:08:15 +0100") References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050910222803.GB14399@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <87fyscwmq3.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050911100814.GD29370@black-sun.demon.co.uk> X-Face: %bb}rHtkhdXe[kOd{$b>~C#vXV/f-TGTU{[j(@aYvg~5i3E"O+!TdhB,l|fu!F"v%1 $d/]Xn; [HuD"PPm6!cVD$FO!7FGEk1:-2y!<'k8.yWu_aso"c!Rn<&*}MKyl>Ym#H-Hj.; 'm3q |:`GheUw?{lt~;@j-a,x-r*A}5uJDxfW"/UgcSaB_Dwksz-MU3hLkF}%uwe._`u\Avd! Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:33:04 +0200 Message-ID: <871x3v7pj3.fsf@christian.marillat.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) XEmacs/21.4.17 (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Paul Walker writes: > On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 01:02:12AM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > >> The latest transcode on my repository is 2:1.0.0-0.6 for unstable. My >> package follow the Debian policy to move to testing so the latest >> package for testing is 2:0.6.14-0.7 > > I can see the packages in the directory, but both apt: > > paul@nova:~$ apt-cache policy transcode > transcode: > Installed: 2:0.6.14-0.5 > Candidate: 2:0.6.14-0.5 > Version Table: > *** 2:0.6.14-0.5 0 > 600 ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Packages My repository doesn't use the unstable name since the sarge release. Replace unstable by sid. http://debian.video.free.fr/ http://hpisi.nerim.net/ Christian From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 15:19:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8D0126D95 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:19:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BDGaRd014072; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:16:36 +0200 Received: from astro.systems.pipex.net (astro.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.6]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BDGXRd014052 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:16:33 +0200 Received: from nova (81-178-84-55.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.84.55]) by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F76E000083 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:16:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from paul by nova with local id 1EERgt-0005MN-2K for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:16:15 +0100 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:16:14 +0100 From: Paul Walker To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) Message-ID: <20050911131614.GF29370@black-sun.demon.co.uk> References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050910222803.GB14399@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <87fyscwmq3.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050911100814.GD29370@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <871x3v7pj3.fsf@christian.marillat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <871x3v7pj3.fsf@christian.marillat.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 02:33:04PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > My repository doesn't use the unstable name since the sarge > release. Replace unstable by sid. Ah, that's done it. My fault - as long as the repository still seems to be there and functioning, I don't usually check the webpage. It's a bad habit, I know... Thanks for the help, and thanks for packaging it in the first place. ;-) -- Paul Tick: It's starting to smell a little like danger in here, or heavily-fried food. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 18:00:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2300B126D95 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:00:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BFvURd024972; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:57:30 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BFvQRd024952 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:57:28 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j8BFvJJJ004036 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 08:57:20 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id j8BFvIib004035 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 08:57:18 -0700 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 08:57:18 -0700 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] The best quality OSS mpeg2 encoder? Message-ID: <20050911155718.GA4009@t22> References: <43240c76.67415@msgid.achurch.org> <1126439791.4839.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1126439791.4839.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter wrote: > On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 19:47 +0000, Andrew Church wrote: > > >So I guess the default maxrate of transcode should be adjusted? > > > That would probably be the best option in terms of standards > > compliance. Personally I prefer to keep it at 9000 kbps and lower it only > > when mplex complains, but that's what ffmpeg.cfg is for ;) Patch below, > > though it may be worth documenting elsewhere so people are aware of it. > > Applied, I think this is also a more sensible default for newbies. As an elder n00b, is there any point in doing this if it just lowers the actual max bitrate from 18 Mbps to 17 Mbps? Or does lowering it from 9000 to 8000 get it under some threshhold that stops it from going wild? From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 18:15:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5340126D95 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:15:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BGDXRd026054; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:13:35 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BGDVRd026038 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:13:31 +0200 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j8BGDOxb004053 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:13:24 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id j8BGDOSI004052 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:13:24 -0700 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:13:24 -0700 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Crashes crashes crashes... (partial fix) Message-ID: <20050911161324.GB4009@t22> References: <200509092318.15803.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <4322495b.37223@msgid.achurch.org> <20050910055838.GA6735@puff.jakemsr.gom> <200509101514.53824.chrivers@iversen-net.dk> <1126364675.5565.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <874q8sk4cp.fsf@christian.marillat.net> <20050911044739.GA6805@puff.jakemsr.gom> <87ll24oxmb.fsf@christian.marillat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ll24oxmb.fsf@christian.marillat.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Christian Marillat wrote: > Jacob Meuser writes: > > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 11:19:50PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > > [...] > > >> Don't release broken software then. > > > > Only if people test the software before it's released. > > > > I was surprised at the number of bug reports right after release, when > > we had been in a really slow development cycle for _weeks_ before the > > release, and I asked people to test many times ... > > Users are not beta-testers. Most users don't want to test > something and don't like -pre release. > > Myself I've not seen the de-interlacing and fast resize bugs because I > don't use these options. Same for me. There are no bugs that impact what I use transcode for, so for me, transcode has been finished and stable for years ;^) Users are not beta testers, and microsoft has proved that beta-testers are useless. Regression testing in a defined test framework is the only thing that works at all, and even that doesn't detect bugs in new feature code. And in any case, the nature of what Transcode does does notlend itself to testing... it does lend itself to the use of the exception handling facilities provided by kazlib, however. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 19:03:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC20126D9B for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:03:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BH0qRd028557; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:00:52 +0200 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j8BH0mRd028540 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:00:49 +0200 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 432462bf.10756; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:00:47 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] The best quality OSS mpeg2 encoder? Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 01:54:11 JST In-Reply-To: <20050911155718.GA4009@t22> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.20 Message-ID: <432462bf.10756@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >As an elder n00b, is there any point in doing this if it just lowers >the actual max bitrate from 18 Mbps to 17 Mbps? Or does lowering it >from 9000 to 8000 get it under some threshhold that stops it from >going wild? The problem is that ffmpeg doesn't actually pay attention to the maximum bitrate during the second pass of 2-pass encoding; it relies only on what the results of the first pass tell it. Since the maximum _is_ applied during the first pass, the logfile will reflect that to an extent-- but since the whole point of 2-pass encoding is to alter bitrates based on the logfile, the second pass can end up exceeding the maximum bitrate if it decides to use more bits for a scene than it did in the first pass. So we have to lower the max bitrate we give to ffmpeg in order to get ffmpeg to give us video within the DVD specs (9800 kbps). Unfortunately, there's no way to tell exactly how much ffmpeg will exceed the maximum bitrate by; 6000 is merely a guess at a "safe" value. (For reference, my personal worst-case scenario is out-of-spec video at a maxrate of 7000 kbps. 6500 turned out fine for the same video.) --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 19:08:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C869126D9B for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:08:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BH6cRd028906; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:06:38 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BH15Rd028564 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:01:05 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 90CA014340BF; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:01:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id BDC8343C0C5; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:00:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] The best quality OSS mpeg2 encoder? From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20050911155718.GA4009@t22> References: <43240c76.67415@msgid.achurch.org> <1126439791.4839.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050911155718.GA4009@t22> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-YMuEBHFgidvAsAsyCsl0" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:00:58 +0200 Message-Id: <1126458058.4839.67.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-YMuEBHFgidvAsAsyCsl0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 08:57 -0700, Phil Ehrens wrote: > Erik Slagter wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 19:47 +0000, Andrew Church wrote: > > > >So I guess the default maxrate of transcode should be adjusted? > >=20 > > > That would probably be the best option in terms of standards > > > compliance. Personally I prefer to keep it at 9000 kbps and lower it= only > > > when mplex complains, but that's what ffmpeg.cfg is for ;) Patch bel= ow, > > > though it may be worth documenting elsewhere so people are aware of i= t. > >=20 > > Applied, I think this is also a more sensible default for newbies. >=20 > As an elder n00b, is there any point in doing this if it just lowers > the actual max bitrate from 18 Mbps to 17 Mbps? Or does lowering it > from 9000 to 8000 get it under some threshhold that stops it from > going wild? It's not the solution, if that's what you mean. 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Message-ID: <20050911173815.GA4098@t22> References: <43240c76.67415@msgid.achurch.org> <1126439791.4839.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050911155718.GA4009@t22> <1126458058.4839.67.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1126458058.4839.67.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter wrote: > On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 08:57 -0700, Phil Ehrens wrote: > > Erik Slagter wrote: > > > On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 19:47 +0000, Andrew Church wrote: > > > > >So I guess the default maxrate of transcode should be adjusted? > > > > > > > That would probably be the best option in terms of standards > > > > compliance. Personally I prefer to keep it at 9000 kbps and lower it only > > > > when mplex complains, but that's what ffmpeg.cfg is for ;) Patch below, > > > > though it may be worth documenting elsewhere so people are aware of it. > > > > > > Applied, I think this is also a more sensible default for newbies. > > > > As an elder n00b, is there any point in doing this if it just lowers > > the actual max bitrate from 18 Mbps to 17 Mbps? Or does lowering it > > from 9000 to 8000 get it under some threshhold that stops it from > > going wild? > > It's not the solution, if that's what you mean. Feel free to come with a > better solution ;-) My current solution is to use the lavc nr option, which I think should be called decimate instead of nr, but it seems to work acceptably for output that is intended to be viewed on the TV. Values up to 400 do not produce visible artifacts when viewed on the telly. It is obviously not the best solution. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Sep 11 19:57:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8776126D95 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:57:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BHspRd031730; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:54:51 +0200 Received: from szolnok.dunaweb.hu (dunaweb1.euroweb.hu [195.184.0.6]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BHsmRd031708 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:54:48 +0200 Received: from [193.226.227.37] (wl-193.226.227-37-szolnok.dunaweb.hu [193.226.227.37]) by szolnok.dunaweb.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0B88913CA for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:55:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4324752A.6080807@freemail.hu> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:19:22 +0200 From: Zoltan Boszormenyi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-1.1.fc3 (X11/20050720) X-Accept-Language: hu-hu, hu, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Interlaced NTSC -> PAL DVD References: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> <432379DD.6000305@mightylegends.zapto.org> <1126435008.4839.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1126435008.4839.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi, Erik Slagter írta: > On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 09:57 +0930, Rick Harris wrote: > > >>The only way (AFAIK) to convert NTSC interlaced DV to perfectly smooth >>PAL DVD is to not de-interlace but to shift the interlace field order >>with mjpegtools. > > > Actually you should nearly never deinterlace while encoding. It's a > lossy function you can never reverse. > > >>(Note that Transcode should be capable of this with the >>'--encode_fields' option, but has the same undesirable effect as >>ffmpeg's '-top' option, ie. it doesn't work & produces a strange >>rippling effect). > > > ??? > > Are you sure that you actually understand what these option do? They do > not deinterlace at all (which is good) but only set a flag in the mpeg > stream, that the stream is interlaced and how, so that your dvd player + > tv set can do the right thing. > > >>When changing down from NTSC framerate of 29.97fps to PAL framerate of >>25fps, don't drop or blend frames, simply adjust the video's header >>framerate (yuvfps -c) then adjust the audio speed accordingly without >>changing it's pitch (soundstretch). > > > If the sound is ok (iow there has been used only 1 framerate, which I > guess is a valid assumption for a privately shot dv video) and the > framerate happens to be 30001/1001 and not 24001/1001 (which also seems > a valid assumption to me), then I guess the simple solution would be to > reverse the layout of the fields (top -> bottom and vv). Trancode has a > filter for that. Downside is that you'll have to re-encode. > Thanks for all the help and explanation, I will use it. In the meantime, I have another question. A friend of ours recorded our marriage in 2004 on another, presumably PAL MiniDV camcorder, we haven't even seen that recording yet. Now, having borrowed this NTSC camera from our neighbour, we asked and got the recording from her. But this NTSC camcorder cannot replay it, and I tried to capture the recording, but the DV file also cannot be played on the computer. I doubt the cassette is corrupted, the same effect (broken picture, crackling sound) was produced when a week ago our neighbour's son married and their NTSC and one of their friends' PAL camera were used to record the event and the PAL recordings couldn't have been played on the NTSC camera. Is it intentional from the manufacturers that camcorders made for different TV-standards cannot use or replay each other's recordings? This NTSC Sony DCR TRV-22 doesn't contain any settings to switch between TV-standards... Best regards, Zoltán Böszörményi From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Sep 12 00:01:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D2C126D9B for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:01:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BLw3Rd012531; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:58:03 +0200 Received: from ranger.systems.pipex.net (ranger.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.32]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BLw1Rd012507 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:58:01 +0200 Received: from nova (81-178-84-55.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.84.55]) by ranger.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8ABE0001DC for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:57:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from paul by nova with local id 1EEZpf-0007vZ-7N for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:57:51 +0100 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:57:51 +0100 From: Paul Walker To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Interlaced NTSC -> PAL DVD Message-ID: <20050911215750.GH29370@black-sun.demon.co.uk> References: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> <432379DD.6000305@mightylegends.zapto.org> <1126435008.4839.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4324752A.6080807@freemail.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4324752A.6080807@freemail.hu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 08:19:22PM +0200, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: > Is it intentional from the manufacturers that camcorders made for > different TV-standards cannot use or replay each other's recordings? This Intentional in the sense that they didn't build the capability in. On the other hand, your VCR, DVD player and TV almost certainly won't play PAL recordings either, so your camcorder isn't particularly unique in this respect. ;-) -- Paul Gozer::~Gozer() From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Sep 12 00:45:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8344E126D95 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:45:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BMhbRd014666; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:43:37 +0200 Received: from mightylegends.zapto.org (ppp211-243.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.122.211.243]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BMhYRd014650 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:43:35 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ppp211-243.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.122.211.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mightylegends.zapto.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BB918432 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:13:15 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <4324B327.4010204@mightylegends.zapto.org> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:13:51 +0930 From: Rick Harris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050908) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Interlaced NTSC -> PAL DVD References: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> <432379DD.6000305@mightylegends.zapto.org> <1126435008.4839.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1126435008.4839.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter wrote: > On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 09:57 +0930, Rick Harris wrote: > > >>The only way (AFAIK) to convert NTSC interlaced DV to perfectly smooth >>PAL DVD is to not de-interlace but to shift the interlace field order >>with mjpegtools. > > > Actually you should nearly never deinterlace while encoding. It's a > lossy function you can never reverse. Hear hear. >>(Note that Transcode should be capable of this with the >>'--encode_fields' option, but has the same undesirable effect as >>ffmpeg's '-top' option, ie. it doesn't work & produces a strange >>rippling effect). > > > ??? > > Are you sure that you actually understand what these option do? They do > not deinterlace at all (which is good) but only set a flag in the mpeg > stream, that the stream is interlaced and how, so that your dvd player + > tv set can do the right thing. It seems only partially so. Yes, I do know that they don't deinterlace, we are after all trying NOT to deinterlace here. However my understanding was that it encoded the fields either top or bottom first or progressive. I think I see now that it just sets a field order flag in the stream & doesn't actually encode a specific field order at all. Muchos gracias. >>When changing down from NTSC framerate of 29.97fps to PAL framerate of >>25fps, don't drop or blend frames, simply adjust the video's header >>framerate (yuvfps -c) then adjust the audio speed accordingly without >>changing it's pitch (soundstretch). > > > If the sound is ok (iow there has been used only 1 framerate, which I > guess is a valid assumption for a privately shot dv video) and the > framerate happens to be 30001/1001 and not 24001/1001 (which also seems > a valid assumption to me), then I guess the simple solution would be to > reverse the layout of the fields (top -> bottom and vv). Trancode has a > filter for that. Downside is that you'll have to re-encode. It's called 'fields' & I totally missed it. :) If it works nicely then this has gotta be a much faster way to at least achieve a decent .m2v stream. I'll try it out. Many thanks Erik, very enlightening. Rick From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Sep 12 01:01:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F71126D95 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 01:01:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BMwkRd015238; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:58:46 +0200 Received: from mightylegends.zapto.org (ppp211-243.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.122.211.243]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8BMwgRd015222 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:58:43 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ppp211-243.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.122.211.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mightylegends.zapto.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084702871F for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:28:23 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <4324B6B5.3090001@mightylegends.zapto.org> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:29:01 +0930 From: Rick Harris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050908) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] any2vob mia References: <43207E37.9070803@personnelware.com> In-Reply-To: <43207E37.9070803@personnelware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Carl Karsten wrote: > Anyone have the any2vob script that is normally here: > http://mightylegends.zapto.org/dvd/ > > Or, something that will help me make a DVD from > > [tcprobe] RIFF data, AVI video > [avilib] V: 29.970 fps, codec=XVID, frames=20735, width=512, height=384 > [avilib] A: 44100 Hz, format=0x55, bits=0, channels=2, bitrate=110 kbps, > [avilib] 26485 chunks, 9568329 bytes, VBR > [tcprobe] summary for leprauchpolis.avi, (*) = not default, 0 = not > detected > import frame size: -g 512x384 [720x576] (*) > frame rate: -f 29.970 [25.000] frc=4 (*) > audio track: -a 0 [0] -e 44100,0,2 [48000,16,2] -n 0x55 [0x2000] (*) > bitrate=110 kbps > length: 20735 frames, frame_time=33 msec, duration=0:11:31.858 Hi Carl, You can get it here -> http://mightylegends.zapto.org/dvd/any2vob/ Regards, Rick From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Sep 12 06:00:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB7B126D96 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:00:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8C3v1Rd024242; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 05:57:01 +0200 Received: from szolnok.dunaweb.hu (dunaweb1.euroweb.hu [195.184.0.6]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8C3uxRd024226 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 05:56:59 +0200 Received: from [193.226.227.37] (wl-193.226.227-37-szolnok.dunaweb.hu [193.226.227.37]) by szolnok.dunaweb.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821B88913CA for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 05:57:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <43250252.2090603@freemail.hu> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:21:38 +0200 From: Zoltan Boszormenyi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-1.1.fc3 (X11/20050720) X-Accept-Language: hu-hu, hu, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Interlaced NTSC -> PAL DVD References: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> <432379DD.6000305@mightylegends.zapto.org> <1126435008.4839.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4324752A.6080807@freemail.hu> <20050911215750.GH29370@black-sun.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20050911215750.GH29370@black-sun.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Paul Walker írta: > On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 08:19:22PM +0200, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: > > >>Is it intentional from the manufacturers that camcorders made for >>different TV-standards cannot use or replay each other's recordings? This > > > Intentional in the sense that they didn't build the capability in. On the > other hand, your VCR, DVD player and TV almost certainly won't play PAL > recordings either, so your camcorder isn't particularly unique in this > respect. ;-) But it _is_ unique in this respect. :-( My TV can receive all variations of PAL/SECAM/NTSC, the VHS VCR can record PAL/SECAM broadcasts and can replay PAL/SECAM/NTSC recordings, and these features aren't rare in a TV or a VCR here in Hungary. Best regards, Zoltán Böszörményi From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Sep 12 12:29:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA5C126D95 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:29:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8CANBRd015480; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:23:11 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8CAN6Rd015459 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:23:09 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id D7AAF14340BF; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:23:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id C53EC43C0C5; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:22:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] The best quality OSS mpeg2 encoder? From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20050911173815.GA4098@t22> References: <43240c76.67415@msgid.achurch.org> <1126439791.4839.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050911155718.GA4009@t22> <1126458058.4839.67.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050911173815.GA4098@t22> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-u+wyJbQwbYE6ehJ3/E//" Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:22:15 +0200 Message-Id: <1126520535.4839.165.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-u+wyJbQwbYE6ehJ3/E// Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 10:38 -0700, Phil Ehrens wrote: > My current solution is to use the lavc nr option, which I think > should be called decimate instead of nr, but it seems to work > acceptably for output that is intended to be viewed on the TV. > Values up to 400 do not produce visible artifacts when viewed > on the telly. It is obviously not the best solution. Hmm, that won't do justice to the semantics of the function as well imho. What it actually does is, reducing high-frequency components (details), but I can't find a name that properly reflects this. Something like blur? 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Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:31:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8CASwRd015926; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:28:58 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8CAO9Rd015535 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:24:09 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 1200914340BF; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:24:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 3C58243C0C5; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:23:22 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Interlaced NTSC -> PAL DVD From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <4324752A.6080807@freemail.hu> References: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> <432379DD.6000305@mightylegends.zapto.org> <1126435008.4839.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4324752A.6080807@freemail.hu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-eR+iuRyLn6Gejl/u4mDp" Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:23:22 +0200 Message-Id: <1126520602.4839.167.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-eR+iuRyLn6Gejl/u4mDp Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 20:19 +0200, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: > Is it intentional from the manufacturers that camcorders > made for different TV-standards cannot use or replay each other's > recordings? This NTSC Sony DCR TRV-22 doesn't contain any settings > to switch between TV-standards... 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Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:34:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8CAW9Rd016175; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:32:09 +0200 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (oldconomy.demon.nl [212.238.217.56]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8CAR6Rd015724 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:27:06 +0200 Received: by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 10) id 88C3714340BF; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:27:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 10ECD43C0C5; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:26:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Interlaced NTSC -> PAL DVD From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20050911215750.GH29370@black-sun.demon.co.uk> References: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> <432379DD.6000305@mightylegends.zapto.org> <1126435008.4839.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4324752A.6080807@freemail.hu> <20050911215750.GH29370@black-sun.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-5yaSzHXzH7YPMv7jHIa/" Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:26:47 +0200 Message-Id: <1126520807.4839.172.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-1.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-5yaSzHXzH7YPMv7jHIa/ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 22:57 +0100, Paul Walker wrote: > On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 08:19:22PM +0200, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: >=20 > > Is it intentional from the manufacturers that camcorders made for > > different TV-standards cannot use or replay each other's recordings? Th= is >=20 > Intentional in the sense that they didn't build the capability in. On the > other hand, your VCR, DVD player and TV almost certainly won't play PAL > recordings either, so your camcorder isn't particularly unique in this > respect. ;-) AFAIK most vcr's play cross-standard fine (as long as your TV set can handle the different colour standard (using scart/RGB that doesn't matter btw) and the different frame rate). Also about any DVD player can play all DVD's. Only the TV set must be able to handle the different frame rate. 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Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:39:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8CAZ7Rd016383; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:35:07 +0200 Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8CAWJRd016206 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:32:20 +0200 Received: from nova (81-178-84-55.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.84.55]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF31E00022B for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:32:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from paul by nova with local id 1EElbg-0003Jc-3m for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:32:12 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:32:11 +0100 From: Paul Walker To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Interlaced NTSC -> PAL DVD Message-ID: <20050912103211.GA12690@black-sun.demon.co.uk> References: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> <432379DD.6000305@mightylegends.zapto.org> <1126435008.4839.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4324752A.6080807@freemail.hu> <20050911215750.GH29370@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <43250252.2090603@freemail.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43250252.2090603@freemail.hu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 06:21:38AM +0200, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: > My TV can receive all variations of PAL/SECAM/NTSC, the VHS VCR can record > PAL/SECAM broadcasts and can replay PAL/SECAM/NTSC recordings, and these > features aren't rare in a TV or a VCR here in Hungary. Ah; my fault. I didn't check the address, just assumed that since you were talking about NTSC you were probably in the US. My bad. If the VCR can play back NTSC recordings, do you have any way of getting the cassettes into the VCR? -- Paul First things first, but not necessarily in that order. -- Dr.Who From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Sep 12 13:25:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C25126D95 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:25:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8CBNGRd019877; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:23:16 +0200 Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8CBNERd019858 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:23:14 +0200 Received: from nova (81-178-84-55.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.84.55]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2093FE00009D for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:23:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from paul by nova with local id 1EEmOw-0003Yi-87 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:23:06 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:23:06 +0100 From: Paul Walker To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Interlaced NTSC -> PAL DVD Message-ID: <20050912112306.GB12690@black-sun.demon.co.uk> References: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> <432379DD.6000305@mightylegends.zapto.org> <1126435008.4839.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4324752A.6080807@freemail.hu> <20050911215750.GH29370@black-sun.demon.co.uk> <1126520807.4839.172.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1126520807.4839.172.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 12:26:47PM +0200, Erik Slagter wrote: > AFAIK most vcr's play cross-standard fine (as long as your TV set can > handle the different colour standard (using scart/RGB that doesn't I don't think that's actually the case; we have a TV which should handle NTSC, but NTSC videos from the VCR aren't watchable. I suspect it's because the VCR can't handle the sync pulses coming so frequently. OTOH maybe it's the video, who knows... > matter btw) and the different frame rate). Also about any DVD player can > play all DVD's. Only the TV set must be able to handle the different US ones tend to be region 1 locked. If it's region 1 locked, no point in making it able to decode PAL streams and convert to NTSC. You save code and data space that way. -- Paul From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Sep 14 05:56:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CB5126D91 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 05:56:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8E3pnRd022971; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 05:51:50 +0200 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [63.240.76.28]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8E3pjRd022954 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 05:51:46 +0200 Received: from andrei.myip.org ([24.6.189.81]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005091403513201300d4vv8e>; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:51:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (weiqi.home.local [127.0.0.1]) by andrei.myip.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8F7B4067 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrei.myip.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (weiqi.home.local [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25778-02 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rivendell.home.local (rivendell.home.local [192.168.0.12]) by andrei.myip.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82D3B4063 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Interlaced NTSC -> PAL DVD From: Florin Andrei To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> References: <4323190D.509@freemail.hu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:51:28 -0700 Message-Id: <1126669888.3158.10.camel@rivendell.home.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at andrei.myip.org X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 19:34 +0200, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: > When I gave option "-deinterlace" to ffmpeg It is a great mystery why so many people choose to deinterlace in so many situations when deinterlacing is clearly a bad idea. If the DVD will be watched on a normal TV screen, _do_not_deinterlace_. > Now, how can I create a PAL DVD conforming MPEG2 file > from this de-interlaced MPEG2 file? I know this advice is a tad too late now, but most TV sets and most DVD players in Eastern Europe, especially the newer ones, can play NTSC video with no problems. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 16 06:40:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (unknown [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829A7126DBD for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:40:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8G4TuRd018406; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:29:57 +0200 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.198.54]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8G4TkRd018377 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:29:46 +0200 Received: from andrei.myip.org ([24.6.189.81]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005091604292901400ofplme>; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 04:29:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (weiqi.home.local [127.0.0.1]) by andrei.myip.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BC8B4067 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrei.myip.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (weiqi.home.local [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32694-02 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rivendell.home.local (rivendell.home.local [192.168.0.12]) by andrei.myip.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26417B4063 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:29:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Florin Andrei To: transcode Users Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:29:23 -0700 Message-Id: <1126844963.2929.6.camel@rivendell.home.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at andrei.myip.org X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20050827.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] is sse3 fastest? X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Output from transcode on my system: transcode v1.0.0 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg [...] [transcode] V: IA32/AMD64 accel | sse3 (sse3 sse 3dnowext 3dnow mmxext mmx asm C) tc_memcpy: using sse for memcpy If I understand it correctly, transcode chooses sse3 over the other methods. Is sse3 the fastest? Isn't asm supposed to be always faster? If yes, how can I tell transcode to use asm? (and why sse3 is chosen if asm is faster) Can I force the election via the --accel option? The thing is, what the man page says about the accel options and what's listed by transcode are pretty different things. The man page gives the options: C, ia32asm, mmx, 3dnow, sse, sse2 While transcode gives the options: (see the lines I quoted above) -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Fri Sep 16 07:10:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (unknown [213.239.201.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0618126DC0 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:10:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j8G54RRd024922; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:04:27 +0200 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j8G54CRd024906 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:04:13 +0200 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 432a5248.02156; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:04:08 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] is sse3 fastest? 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