From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Jan 1 00:45:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131AD126D82 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 00:45:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id jBVNWbrL022507; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 00:38:42 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from mail231.csoft.net (qmailr@resin.csoft.net [63.111.22.86]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id jBVNWWQJ022466 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 00:32:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 2636 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2005 23:34:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO puff.jakemsr.gom) (63.111.27.87) by mail231.csoft.net with SMTP; 31 Dec 2005 23:34:46 -0000 Received: (from jakemsr@jakemsr.com) by puff.jakemsr.gom (mini_sendmail/1.3.5 16nov2003); Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:32:29 PST (sender jakemsr@puff.jakemsr.gom) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:32:29 -0800 From: Jacob Meuser To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] tcdecode segfaults when converting dv video Message-ID: <20051231233229.GB5616@puff.jakemsr.gom> Mail-Followup-To: transcode-users@exit1.org References: <20051231110415.57a5f0fc@azafuse.rokugan.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051231110415.57a5f0fc@azafuse.rokugan.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 11:04:15AM +0100, Francesco Romani wrote: > On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 01:23:45 +0200 (EET) > Jussi Vuokko wrote: > > Hi, > > > I'm having problems when converting dv video with transcode. It seems > > that there is a problem with tcdecode and libdv4? > > It seems it is. are we all sure this is not a yuv vs yuy2 problem? the OP does not specify if he tried using yuy2 mode. -- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Jan 1 16:51:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EDB126D8B for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 16:51:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k01Fccmk032429; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 16:44:54 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k01FcWMX032394 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 16:38:34 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Et5I0-0006ue-BV for transcode-users@exit1.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:38:32 +0100 Received: from cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([70.24.250.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:38:32 +0100 Received: from mlist4suntong by cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:38:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:38:19 -0500 Lines: 37 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Demux mpeg with perfect A/V sync X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi, I've got some VCD mpeg streams with weird PTS values, like this: import frame size: -g 352x288 [720x576] (*) aspect ratio: 4:3 (*) frame rate: -f 25.000 [25.000] frc=3 PTS=47721.8588, frame_time=40 ms, bitrate=1120 kbps audio track: -a 0 [0] -e 44100,16,2 [48000,16,2] -n 0x50 [0x2000] (*) PTS=89.5848, bitrate=224 kbps -D 1190806 --av_fine_ms 34 (frames & ms) [0] [0] I know the -M option for transcode or tcdemux can deal with such situation perfectly. However, I was not able to demux them with tcdemux: $ tcdemux -d 7 -i sample.mpg -M 3 > /dev/null [tcdemux] (pid=18419) MPEG program stream (PS) [demuxer.c] (pid=18419) MPEG-1 video stream detected INFO: j=00000, i=00000, skip=0, flush=1, force=0, pay= 8, sid=0x00, eos=0 writing packet 0 [demuxer.c] (pid=18419) invalid packet header detected [demuxer.c] (pid=18419) '0xffffffff' not yet supported [demuxer.c] (pid=18419) 0/1 packets discarded They are just standard VCD mpeg streams. How can I demux them with tcdemux? My ultimate goal is to convert them to DVD format, since the video is already in DVD compliant format, I just need to demux and work on the audio... thanks for you help T From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Jan 1 18:21:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D098126D8B for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 18:21:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k01HBQrQ010141; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 18:16:27 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k01HBM0w010111 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 18:11:23 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A927143405F for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 18:11:22 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id C52E9864001; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 18:11:21 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Demux mpeg with perfect A/V sync From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-/adQax47rTudx4YwSCfi" Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 18:11:21 +0100 Message-Id: <1136135481.25509.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-/adQax47rTudx4YwSCfi Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 10:38 -0500, T wrote: > $ tcdemux -d 7 -i sample.mpg -M 3 > /dev/null=20 > [tcdemux] (pid=3D18419) MPEG > program stream (PS)=20 > [demuxer.c] (pid=3D18419) MPEG-1 video stream detected > INFO: j=3D00000, i=3D00000, skip=3D0, flush=3D1, force=3D0, pay=3D 8, si= d=3D0x00, eos=3D0 > writing packet 0 > [demuxer.c] (pid=3D18419) invalid packet header detected [demuxer.c] > (pid=3D18419) '0xffffffff' not yet supported=20 > [demuxer.c] (pid=3D18419) 0/1 packets discarded >=20 > They are just standard VCD mpeg streams. 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Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:36:54 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:36:49 -0500 Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <1136135481.25509.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Demux mpeg with perfect A/V sync X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 18:11:21 +0100, Erik Slagter wrote: >> They are just standard VCD mpeg streams. How can I demux them with >> tcdemux? >> >> My ultimate goal is to convert them to DVD format, since the video is >> already in DVD compliant format, I just need to demux and work on the >> audio... > > Could this be p2p material? The stream seems to be severely damaged. No, actually they are ripped from standard VCDs, just the PTS values are weird. They played ok though, don't know how that could be... From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Jan 1 21:57:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89117126D8B for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 21:57:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k01Kk5wM031847; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 21:52:57 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k01Kk27p031810 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 21:46:04 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EtA5R-0004zv-Lm for transcode-users@exit1.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:45:54 +0100 Received: from cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([70.24.250.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:45:53 +0100 Received: from mlist4suntong by cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:45:53 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 15:45:42 -0500 Lines: 30 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Progressive Audio Sync problem X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org > I'm using transcode to convert an AVI file (XVID codec) to a DVD compliant > format. I've got a .m2v and .mp2 files which I'm trying to combine with > mplex and having a few problems with audio-video sync. > > The movie starts fine with audio and video in sync and as the movie > progresses, it seem to go out of sync. By the end of the movie, the audio > is leading video by as much as 2 seconds! > > I tried to play with the -M flags in transcode and both mplex and > tcmplex-panteltje but havent found a solution. Can some give me a clue how > I can resolve this. I think the reason for this is due to the .avi itself, -- transcode discarded/skipped some audio packages along the encoding, yielding such progressive audio sync problem. I don't know how to fix such problem myself. I just notice the -M option on transcode recently. Have you tried all of them? Anybody here know if the transcode -M option can fix such problem? BTW, I know there are some Windoze tools that will allow you to know if the source movie will have this kind of problem even before you start re-coding, I'm wondering if there is such tools under Linux... thanks T From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Jan 1 22:57:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B916126D8B for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 22:57:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k01LkuMJ004816; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 22:51:44 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k01Lkraf004800 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 22:46:54 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EtB2M-0006L3-Oa for transcode-users@exit1.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:46:46 +0100 Received: from cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([70.24.250.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:46:46 +0100 Received: from mlist4suntong by cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:46:46 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:46:37 -0500 Lines: 30 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Using transcode X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi, I'm trying to convert .avi files to DVD format using transcode. I have two questions regarding this. - 1st, I'm wondering if variable bit-rate encoding is recommended for this. If so, what quantization value do you normally use? - 2nd, 2 out of 4 of my friends can't play my transcoded film smoothly in their dvd player. They both describe the symptom as play-stop-play, ie. it slow/stop often, eg, every 1 or 2 minutes. My DVD player plays them fine, but will get jerky when after FF, -- the playing will slow/stop every 5 seconds. I exhausted the search on the web for the cure. Someone says it is due to the fact that max bit-rate is too high. I've applied the "-F 8,'-q 7 -b 6000 -S 4400'" option to transcode, but the symptom remains. please help. PS. my transcode is ver 0.6.14-0.4 under Debian stable. $ uname -rm 2.6.11-1-k7 i686 thanks T From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Jan 1 23:40:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38009126D8B for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 23:40:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k01MUoWP008480; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 23:35:37 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.207]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k01MUiSv008465 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 23:30:45 +0100 Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id m3so746067uge for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:30:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=K6WDE59+uEtnDAASLgk6x7QQkIO7w536qkWtFTbOdIiHQBkAzPLOZzWWyQvZgE/N0konq8sUopT72Y7yr7D6qLXUAxT6sYv0OKLnJayLdddC+v+P5l47l4kNwIHBXLb4bdhHv74eh2xlkRirgJKDQIoyskKtFXEZaNY3jEnowtw= Received: by 10.67.27.6 with SMTP id e6mr4205193ugj; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:30:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from azafuse.rokugan.lan ( [82.59.154.171]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e1sm7495144ugf.2006.01.01.14.30.43; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 14:30:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 23:30:41 +0100 From: Francesco Romani To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode Message-ID: <20060101233041.3091ee8c@azafuse.rokugan.lan> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:46:37 -0500 T wrote: > Hi, Hi, unfortunately I don't have some good answers for your questions, but I can have a couple of suggestions. > I'm trying to convert .avi files to DVD format using transcode. I > have two questions regarding this. > - 1st, I'm wondering if variable bit-rate encoding is recommended for > this. If so, what quantization value do you normally use? standard compliant DVD have bitrate constraints, in my experience only a few players can play unstandard streams flawlessly. So, I suggest to use fixed bitrate and encode standard compliant streams. Using two-pass encoding allows to achieve good quality. > PS. my transcode is ver 0.6.14-0.4 under Debian stable. 0.6.14 is ancient and poorly (or no) supported. Unfortunately, we have got reports of some situations for that 0.6.14 can work better that 1.0.x, but in the common case I strongly suggest to upgrade and use 1.0.x first. Anyway, for this situation I can't tell if upgrade can lead to some tangible benefits. Best regards, -- Francesco Romani -- Ikitt 'people always complain, no matther what you do' IM contact: (drop me a note via email first, I have antispam default deny!) jabber://ikitt-at-jabber-dot-linux-dot-it icq://27-83-87-867 From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Sun Jan 1 23:48:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF5F126D8B for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 23:48:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k01McSDj009102; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 23:43:20 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k01McLtV009075 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 23:38:23 +0100 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k01McCNa031874 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 14:38:12 -0800 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id k01McBXL031873 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 14:38:11 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 14:38:11 -0800 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode Message-ID: <20060101223811.GA31867@t22> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org T wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to convert .avi files to DVD format using transcode. I have two > questions regarding this. > > - 1st, I'm wondering if variable bit-rate encoding is recommended for > this. If so, what quantization value do you normally use? > > - 2nd, 2 out of 4 of my friends can't play my transcoded film smoothly in > their dvd player. They both describe the symptom as play-stop-play, ie. it > slow/stop often, eg, every 1 or 2 minutes. My DVD player plays them fine, > but will get jerky when after FF, -- the playing will slow/stop every 5 > seconds. > > I exhausted the search on the web for the cure. Someone says it is due to > the fact that max bit-rate is too high. I've applied the "-F 8,'-q 7 -b > 6000 -S 4400'" option to transcode, but the symptom remains. The problem you describe is due to the peak bitrate being too high. It is possible to improve the bitrate control by using 2-pass mode, but that obviosuly takes twice as long ;^) The very latest dvd players have very, very fast dac's, and can play things with bitrate peaks above 20 Mbit/s... but in general, the older the player, the slower the dac. So, to create dvd's with proper compliant peak bitrates you will need to use 2-pass encoding. You can reduce the bitrate incrementally by using the ffmpeg 'nr' option in your ffmpeg.cfg file as well, but this will only buy you about a 20% reduction before quality starts to suffer. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Jan 2 13:38:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4A4126D8B for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:38:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02CNuO5032525; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:30:02 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02CNpii032494 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:23:54 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8E9143405F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:23:50 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 987CE864001; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:23:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Demux mpeg with perfect A/V sync From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <1136135481.25509.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-Fmkr9YqoWhDy6Ue3i/qj" Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:23:44 +0100 Message-Id: <1136204624.27484.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-Fmkr9YqoWhDy6Ue3i/qj Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 14:36 -0500, T wrote: > On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 18:11:21 +0100, Erik Slagter wrote: >=20 > >> They are just standard VCD mpeg streams. How can I demux them with > >> tcdemux? > >>=20 > >> My ultimate goal is to convert them to DVD format, since the video is > >> already in DVD compliant format, I just need to demux and work on the > >> audio... > >=20 > > Could this be p2p material? The stream seems to be severely damaged. >=20 > No, actually they are ripped from standard VCDs, just the PTS values are > weird. They played ok though, don't know how that could be... How did you rip? 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Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:44:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02CY9QR001356; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:38:35 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02CP1vM032660 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:25:02 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44100143405F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:25:01 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id E76C3864001; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:24:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Progressive Audio Sync problem From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-iEKIR9dnyJJFGi5EVSHH" Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:24:57 +0100 Message-Id: <1136204697.27484.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-iEKIR9dnyJJFGi5EVSHH Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 15:45 -0500, T wrote: > Anybody here know if the transcode -M option can fix such problem?=20 AFAIK the -M option primarily exists to solve 24001/1001&30001/1001 fps problems. --=-iEKIR9dnyJJFGi5EVSHH Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; 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Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:52:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02CfEBh002338; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:45:48 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02CQ23w000329 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:26:04 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id B959C143405F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:26:02 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 0443E864001; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:25:59 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-4WlfBwVRV86OP23mSwff" Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:25:58 +0100 Message-Id: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-4WlfBwVRV86OP23mSwff Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 16:46 -0500, T wrote: > Hi,=20 >=20 > I'm trying to convert .avi files to DVD format using transcode. I have tw= o > questions regarding this.=20 >=20 > - 1st, I'm wondering if variable bit-rate encoding is recommended for > this. If so, what quantization value do you normally use?=20 >=20 > - 2nd, 2 out of 4 of my friends can't play my transcoded film smoothly in > their dvd player. They both describe the symptom as play-stop-play, ie. i= t > slow/stop often, eg, every 1 or 2 minutes. My DVD player plays them fine, > but will get jerky when after FF, -- the playing will slow/stop every 5 > seconds.=20 >=20 > I exhausted the search on the web for the cure. Someone says it is due to > the fact that max bit-rate is too high. I've applied the "-F 8,'-q 7 -b > 6000 -S 4400'" option to transcode, but the symptom remains. =20 If you're not an expert in this area, you really should use the mpeg export profile for dvd's. 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Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:58:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02CmXcE003449; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:53:08 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02CSHcG000507 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:28:18 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A5A143405F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:28:17 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id A928A864001; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:28:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20060101233041.3091ee8c@azafuse.rokugan.lan> References: <20060101233041.3091ee8c@azafuse.rokugan.lan> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-qA2p4vWKJWe9IGvZI0VQ" Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:28:13 +0100 Message-Id: <1136204893.27484.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-qA2p4vWKJWe9IGvZI0VQ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 23:30 +0100, Francesco Romani wrote: > standard compliant DVD have bitrate constraints, in my experience > only a few players can play unstandard streams flawlessly. > So, I suggest to use fixed bitrate and encode standard compliant > streams. Using two-pass encoding allows to achieve good quality. Two-pass encoding will not improve vbv (buffer rate) compliance. In fact, using ffmpeg, it will sometimes fail compliance, using two-pass encoding, while one-pass does comply. Two-pass encoding is for finetuning, first make it work, I'd suggest using the simplest approach, which is one-pass. --=-qA2p4vWKJWe9IGvZI0VQ Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIILzCCAnIw ggHboAMCAQICAw/xBDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhh d3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVt YWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDUxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WhcNMDYxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WjBqMRAwDgYDVQQE EwdTbGFndGVyMRUwEwYDVQQqEwxFcmlrIE1hcnRpam4xHTAbBgNVBAMTFEVyaWsgTWFydGlqbiBT bGFndGVyMSAwHgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhFlcmlrQHNsYWd0ZXIubmFtZTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEF AAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAtYqGuTSGbsTHZPiKQnNmvpVaxVuBZS6rV5xuKD47J9hz8Vq3Xh4PpuGYNW5L vevp80oj6sYAhNuU380UNRqALFaer8MtG6fXpvBgq+MCxVQzMyYxAnopqWlZQIUQNQX9wZmI0gVv gY6vwcXRBXkMyrzm41dy4oFwh+PTj3U+xwcCAwEAAaMuMCwwHAYDVR0RBBUwE4ERZXJpa0BzbGFn dGVyLm5hbWUwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQCf5+l4khcSjUOL8WcuJ7Q1 eXhSPe0VJEsHSfVJCNFmfFZFiGZNwQRliOuGFxSy+uPb8ZVIZ3cBIen/K0k2hWS6pCiDm3xNdkFU mhWsibmyMoc91I0Re2ZWPmL6isxiyr56Qv7vNz2UHSinLJr/QtsvRv/RKFlcO1gm1wsCOPkyITCC AnIwggHboAMCAQICAw/xBDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMc VGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZy ZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDUxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WhcNMDYxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WjBqMRAwDgYD VQQEEwdTbGFndGVyMRUwEwYDVQQqEwxFcmlrIE1hcnRpam4xHTAbBgNVBAMTFEVyaWsgTWFydGlq biBTbGFndGVyMSAwHgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhFlcmlrQHNsYWd0ZXIubmFtZTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAtYqGuTSGbsTHZPiKQnNmvpVaxVuBZS6rV5xuKD47J9hz8Vq3Xh4PpuGY NW5Lvevp80oj6sYAhNuU380UNRqALFaer8MtG6fXpvBgq+MCxVQzMyYxAnopqWlZQIUQNQX9wZmI 0gVvgY6vwcXRBXkMyrzm41dy4oFwh+PTj3U+xwcCAwEAAaMuMCwwHAYDVR0RBBUwE4ERZXJpa0Bz bGFndGVyLm5hbWUwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQCf5+l4khcSjUOL8Wcu J7Q1eXhSPe0VJEsHSfVJCNFmfFZFiGZNwQRliOuGFxSy+uPb8ZVIZ3cBIen/K0k2hWS6pCiDm3xN dkFUmhWsibmyMoc91I0Re2ZWPmL6isxiyr56Qv7vNz2UHSinLJr/QtsvRv/RKFlcO1gm1wsCOPky ITCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQI EwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1 bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMT G1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJl ZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMzA3MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNV BAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNU aGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAw gYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV+065yplaHmjAdQRwnd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNa LIkVcI7dyfArhVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+RNiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUq VIUPSAR/p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEAAaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1Ud HwQ8MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwudGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWls Q0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxhYmVs Mi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEASIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/TCG4+DYf qi2fNi/A9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amcOY6MIE9lX5Xa 9/eH1sYITq726jTlEBpbNU1341YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggJmMIICYgIBATBpMGIxCzAJ BgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQD EyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIDD/EEMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgggFT MBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTA2MDEwMjEyMjgxM1ow IwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFLP4JdjweL+NUXui8T8O+K9+p7SRMHgGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDFrMGkwYjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNV BAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAgMP8QQwegYLKoZIhvcNAQkQ Agsxa6BpMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBM dGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIDD/EEMA0G CSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIGApL84J1u/pnGMU1s7hWJD1KZ/fX1NxPS6boClUyliRWLqjY6yxJ0TX4Mj MTqWRKEu1SlyiOLPi90h3juq/6J4qs6mGMonw52GCWT7PC350BHqPlUIANZok75PnpZvk57thIm/ dI1Y8g3fpCPwVBsK/qWFiiqA0K5C+EmNFDt3ryMAAAAAAAA= --=-qA2p4vWKJWe9IGvZI0VQ-- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Jan 2 14:07:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB57126D8B for ; 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micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-diCpXCnxK9S3dz/20zwZ" Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:47:49 +0100 Message-Id: <1136206069.27484.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-diCpXCnxK9S3dz/20zwZ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 14:38 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > The very latest dvd players have very, very fast dac's, and can play > things with bitrate peaks above 20 Mbit/s... but in general, the older > the player, the slower the dac. So, to create dvd's with proper > compliant peak bitrates you will need to use 2-pass encoding. Hmm, I am afraid you have a misconception about the video decoding process here. The DAC's of a dvd player (or similarly in a desktop computer) are only used in the final stage of the decoding process. They convert the raw digital (decoded!) picture into analogue PCrCb signals (hence the name) which are then converted into the corresponding component, scart (RGB), SHVS and composite signals using analogue components. The frequency the DAC runs at, is determined by the characteristics of the output signal, which is normally 720/704/360/352 "pixels" by 576/480 lines by 25/~30 fps HZ. Maybe there are modern DAC's that run at 2x, 4x etc. the nominal frequency and maybe this gives sharper pixel edges. They then need to output each "pixel" more then once. This is the same as for PC VGA cards, actually (but then for different resolutions, fps, etc.) Whether a dvd player (either software or hardware) can meet a certain vbv buffer size (which is a.o. determined by the peak bit rate) is determined by the speed the player can read bits off the medium, how fast it can decompose and decode the bitstream (I guess the processor speed comes in here) and how smart it (pre-)fetches the bitstream. 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Mon, 02 Jan 2006 04:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from azafuse.rokugan.lan ( [87.3.202.187]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1sm7986129uge.2006.01.02.04.57.29; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 04:57:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:57:27 +0100 From: Francesco Romani To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode Message-ID: <20060102135727.340407c2@azafuse.rokugan.lan> In-Reply-To: <1136204893.27484.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060101233041.3091ee8c@azafuse.rokugan.lan> <1136204893.27484.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:28:13 +0100 Erik Slagter wrote: > > So, I suggest to use fixed bitrate and encode standard compliant > > streams. Using two-pass encoding allows to achieve good quality. > Two-pass encoding will not improve vbv (buffer rate) compliance. In > fact, using ffmpeg, it will sometimes fail compliance, using two-pass > encoding, while one-pass does comply.[...] This is *really* interesting, thanks for pointing out. Best regards, -- Francesco Romani -- Ikitt 'people always complain, no matther what you do' IM contact: (drop me a note via email first, I have antispam default deny!) jabber://ikitt-at-jabber-dot-linux-dot-it icq://27-83-87-867 From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Jan 2 15:06:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34B8126D8B for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:06:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02DsKJp012772; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:00:17 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02Ds3Sp012724 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:54:12 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB8E143405F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:54:02 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 7073B864001; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:53:59 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20060102135727.340407c2@azafuse.rokugan.lan> References: <20060101233041.3091ee8c@azafuse.rokugan.lan> <1136204893.27484.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060102135727.340407c2@azafuse.rokugan.lan> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-UkxNgI6/SrupTbG9hBt7" Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:53:59 +0100 Message-Id: <1136210039.27484.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-UkxNgI6/SrupTbG9hBt7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 13:57 +0100, Francesco Romani wrote: > On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:28:13 +0100 > Erik Slagter wrote: >=20 > > > So, I suggest to use fixed bitrate and encode standard compliant > > > streams. Using two-pass encoding allows to achieve good quality. > > Two-pass encoding will not improve vbv (buffer rate) compliance. In > > fact, using ffmpeg, it will sometimes fail compliance, using two-pass > > encoding, while one-pass does comply.[...] > This is *really* interesting, thanks for pointing out. 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Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:26:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02EEVHw015754; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:19:08 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k02EEQKn015710 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:14:28 +0100 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 43b9353f.07306; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:14:23 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:53:03 JST In-Reply-To: <20060102135727.340407c2@azafuse.rokugan.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.21 Message-ID: <43b9353f.07306@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >> > So, I suggest to use fixed bitrate and encode standard compliant >> > streams. Using two-pass encoding allows to achieve good quality. >> Two-pass encoding will not improve vbv (buffer rate) compliance. In >> fact, using ffmpeg, it will sometimes fail compliance, using two-pass >> encoding, while one-pass does comply.[...] > >This is *really* interesting, thanks for pointing out. I've lost track of how many times this has come up ;) but just for clarification, this is because of a bug in ffmpeg's rate control during the second pass, and the only way around it is to reduce the maximum bitrate in ffmpeg.cfg. You can get significant quality improvement over 1-pass, though; I use 2-pass exclusively for everything I do. See also: http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?FFmpeg_Vs._Mpeg2enc --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Jan 2 16:10:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230A2126D8B for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:10:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02ExWhs021570; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:04:39 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.202]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02ExT6M021543 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:59:30 +0100 Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id m3so789328uge for ; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:59:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=c8QuPXGHlfhrNeqlq/2zM0Mf+J11HH8kEpBj2RXGiSuF7Xc7Tf2pyWDzd7MIMex+R83O80AMvPY5EwXVjx/3CIEKAWqsrI49fB6N48np7yxrY3JwNfqVcWJoRFl0bZkE9YuDgT2DES4je8VDygaM1EcQyiGybHtBXJ2Ok5gZf1Q= Received: by 10.66.244.20 with SMTP id r20mr3784537ugh; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:59:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ( [87.3.202.187]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m1sm8038768uge.2006.01.02.06.59.27; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:59:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:59:33 +0100 From: Francesco Romani To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode Message-ID: <20060102155933.5dd3138c@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <43b9353f.07306@msgid.achurch.org> References: <20060102135727.340407c2@azafuse.rokugan.lan> <43b9353f.07306@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.14 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:53:03 JST achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) wrote: > >This is *really* interesting, thanks for pointing out. > I've lost track of how many times this has come up ;) but just > for clarification, this is because of a bug in ffmpeg's rate control > during the second pass, Sorry for poor attention ;) I just missed the ffmpeg bug, knowing such issues a bunch of things start to make sense (to me ;) ) Best regards, -- Francesco Romani From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Jan 2 16:36:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85539126D8B for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:36:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02FNt26024787; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:30:17 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02FNoZN024766 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:23:53 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80D1143405F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:23:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 980F0864001; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:23:49 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <43b9353f.07306@msgid.achurch.org> References: <43b9353f.07306@msgid.achurch.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-IdPpiD6+m3qU1JVjgob2" Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:23:49 +0100 Message-Id: <1136215429.27484.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-IdPpiD6+m3qU1JVjgob2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 22:53 +0000, Andrew Church wrote: > >> > So, I suggest to use fixed bitrate and encode standard compliant > >> > streams. Using two-pass encoding allows to achieve good quality. > >> Two-pass encoding will not improve vbv (buffer rate) compliance. In > >> fact, using ffmpeg, it will sometimes fail compliance, using two-pass > >> encoding, while one-pass does comply.[...] > > > >This is *really* interesting, thanks for pointing out. >=20 > I've lost track of how many times this has come up ;) but just for > clarification, this is because of a bug in ffmpeg's rate control during t= he > second pass, and the only way around it is to reduce the maximum bitrate = in > ffmpeg.cfg. You can get significant quality improvement over 1-pass, > though; I use 2-pass exclusively for everything I do. 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Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:23:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02GBI5b031427; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:16:36 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02GBCjh031399 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:11:13 +0100 Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EtSGb-0002l5-64 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:10:37 +0100 Received: from 84-73-176-81.dclient.hispeed.ch ([84.73.176.81]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:10:37 +0100 Received: from linux by 84-73-176-81.dclient.hispeed.ch with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:10:37 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: "Sami A. Hassanein" Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <200512310013.54957.linux@hassanein.ch> <1136022913.25509.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 84.73.176.81 (Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.4; Linux) KHTML/3.4.0 (like Gecko)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: ffmpeg I/O error by using Any2Vob-0.28.sh X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter slagter.name> writes: > > On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 00:13 +0100, Sami A. Hassanein wrote: > > Running: a52dec -o wav /home/sah/tmp/myMovie.ac3 > > > /home/sah/tmp/dts-ac3.wav...Done! > > > > Not able to open input file /home/sah/tmp/dts-ac3.wav. > > File contains data in an unknown format. > > This suggests the audio input is dts rather than ac3, it's not the same! > Transcode (and many other tools) cannot handle dts due to patent issues. > > Try to select the ac3 or mp2 audio track, if available. If you're going > to downmix to plain stereo, it really won't matter, actually. Thanks for your answer. I am dealing with transcode since 2 days. How do I select the ac3 or mp2 audio track out of my avi file? Another question: I used the following command in order to get a wav file: mplayer -ao pcm -vo null file.avi Can I use this file within the processing of the script any2vob-0.28.sh? -- Thanks for your help Sami From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Jan 2 17:30:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9462D126D8F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:30:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02GK3qG032711; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:24:33 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02GBD83031400 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:11:14 +0100 Received: from hassanein.ch (84-73-176-81.dclient.hispeed.ch [84.73.176.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.hispeed.ch (8.12.6/8.12.6/taifun-1.0) with ESMTP id k02GBCxr018056 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:11:13 +0100 From: "Sami A. Hassanein" Organization: private To: transcode-users@exit1.org Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:11:14 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601021711.15846.linux@hassanein.ch> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on smtp-03.tornado.cablecom.ch X-Virus-Status: Clean X-DCC-spamcheck-01.tornado.cablecom.ch-Metrics: smtp-03.tornado.cablecom.ch 32700; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] movie stops after 3 minutes X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi I use the script any2vob-0.28.sh. Based on a avi file I successfully managed to create a DVD. By playing the DVD the movie stops after about 3 minutes whereas the sound still goes on. I checked the orginal movie and the temporary mp2 file, both movies run successful. I also checked the output of the script but there is nothing mentioned which may indicate an error. I am new to transcode therefore I am happy about every hint. -- Thanks, Sami From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Jan 2 18:09:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C678126D8B for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:09:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02Gwac2005259; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:03:26 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02GwXKg005243 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:58:34 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EtT0k-0005My-3w for transcode-users@exit1.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:58:18 +0100 Received: from cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([70.24.250.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:58:18 +0100 Received: from mlist4suntong by cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:58:18 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 11:58:02 -0500 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <1136135481.25509.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1136204624.27484.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Re: Demux mpeg with perfect A/V sync X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:23:44 +0100, Erik Slagter wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 14:36 -0500, T wrote: >> On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 18:11:21 +0100, Erik Slagter wrote: >> >> >> They are just standard VCD mpeg streams. How can I demux them with >> >> tcdemux? >> >> >> >> My ultimate goal is to convert them to DVD format, since the video is >> >> already in DVD compliant format, I just need to demux and work on the >> >> audio... >> > >> > Could this be p2p material? The stream seems to be severely damaged. >> >> No, actually they are ripped from standard VCDs, just the PTS values are >> weird. They played ok though, don't know how that could be... > > How did you rip? vcdxrip -v -p --no-ext-psd --no-command-comment --nosegments --nofiles -C /dev/$CDRD I would say that over 90% of the rips are OK. > BTW I appreciate it to talk to a person that has a real name. Tong From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Jan 2 18:16:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFA6126D8B for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:16:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02H6sm5006041; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:11:24 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02H28KV005520 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:02:10 +0100 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k02H21Ni032680 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:02:01 -0800 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id k02H20sZ032679 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:02:00 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:02:00 -0800 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode Message-ID: <20060102170200.GA32653@t22> References: <20060101223811.GA31867@t22> <1136206069.27484.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1136206069.27484.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 14:38 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > > > The very latest dvd players have very, very fast dac's, and can play > > things with bitrate peaks above 20 Mbit/s... but in general, the older > > the player, the slower the dac. So, to create dvd's with proper > > compliant peak bitrates you will need to use 2-pass encoding. > > Hmm, I am afraid you have a misconception about the video decoding > process here. Okay, I admit to having used an oversimplification in my explanantion. In any case, the newer players (pioneer especially) are fast enough in all their hardware components that they can (and do) handle excessive bitrates via signal processing strategies (filtering and decimating) instead of discarding buffers like the older, slower players. As for the two-pass issue... two-pass results in the average bitrate being controlled correctly, making it possible to proportionately limit the peak by reducing the average bitrate with relatively higer average quality by using a two-pass encode. The results speak for themselves, regardless of known bugs. Again, a single pass encode can be controlled with surprisingly good results by using the nr option, which acts as a filter-and-decimate step IN SINGLE PASS... in a double pass encode it's effect is somewhat more complicated. Excessive values of nr will produce a washed-out effect (in single pass mode). From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Jan 2 20:03:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F123126D8B for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:03:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02IoMEj015711; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 19:56:59 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02IoJS2015689 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 19:50:20 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([82.46.8.18]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:51:00 +0000 Message-ID: <43B975E5.3090409@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:50:13 +0000 From: Paul Hunnisett User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051002) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2006 18:51:00.0322 (UTC) FILETIME=[793A6420:01C60FCD] X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Video Bitrate X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org I've been trying to encode videos to watch on my smartphone - at a resolution of 220 x 176. I've been quite happy with the results - they're certainly very watchable. One thing puzzles me though. I've been aiming for a total size of 250 Mbs per film and I've been setting the video bitrate manually to an appropriate value, but I can't really see much difference between a film encoded at, say 98 kbit/s and 225 kbit/s. Perhaps I just haven't got a good eye, or perhaps the size of the video makes it difficult to see any improvements. Should I see an improvement? If not then I'll reduce the bitrate and the resulting file size - is there anything I can do elsewhere to improve quality? I'm encoding to Xvid4 at 25fps. Any advice gratefully received! Paul Hunnisett From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Jan 2 21:27:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A13E126D83 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:27:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02KGSCR023455; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:21:31 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02KGOTb023437 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:16:25 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBFA143405F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:16:24 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id CD202864001; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:16:22 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Re: Demux mpeg with perfect A/V sync From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <1136135481.25509.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1136204624.27484.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-VgKBGMkDaF8i0KJFxGLd" Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:16:22 +0100 Message-Id: <1136232982.551.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-VgKBGMkDaF8i0KJFxGLd Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 11:58 -0500, T wrote: > >> No, actually they are ripped from standard VCDs, just the PTS values a= re > >> weird. 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Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:34:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02KOWZE024069; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:29:06 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02KOFcT024040 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:24:16 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33295143405F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:24:15 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id EE9BF864001; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:24:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20060102170200.GA32653@t22> References: <20060101223811.GA31867@t22> <1136206069.27484.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060102170200.GA32653@t22> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-qwTvcVhGmVP/fvVouDMx" Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:24:14 +0100 Message-Id: <1136233454.551.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-qwTvcVhGmVP/fvVouDMx Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 09:02 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > Okay, I admit to having used an oversimplification in my > explanantion. In any case, the newer players (pioneer > especially) are fast enough in all their hardware components > that they can (and do) handle excessive bitrates via signal > processing strategies (filtering and decimating) instead of > discarding buffers like the older, slower players. AFAIK hardware players do not discard frames. Please note that the "buffer" concept here is something completely virtual, it is called vbv (virtual buffer verifier) for a reason. It denotes the amount of data the player always completely has in it's sight. There is no relation to hardware buffers, software buffer sizes whatsoever. If a vbv overrun or underrun occurs, this simply means the player doesn't have enough data at a certain point in time to successfully decode and display both audio and video (for this given vbv "size"). In practise this means that the player is able to handle buffer over/underruns up until a certain level (depending on the implementation) and above the level, the player needs to get more data before it can proceed, resulting in paused playback. > As for the two-pass issue... two-pass results in the average bitrate > being controlled correctly, making it possible to proportionately > limit the peak by reducing the average bitrate with relatively > higer average quality by using a two-pass encode. The results speak > for themselves, regardless of known bugs. In theory. 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Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:41:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02KVmts024686; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:36:22 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02KPPXA024150 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:25:26 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75170143405F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:25:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 65C6C864001; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:25:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Video Bitrate From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <43B975E5.3090409@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <43B975E5.3090409@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-AVFs9FuJyjUGjfF0eiK0" Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:25:25 +0100 Message-Id: <1136233525.551.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-AVFs9FuJyjUGjfF0eiK0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 18:50 +0000, Paul Hunnisett wrote: > I've been trying to encode videos to watch on my smartphone - at a=20 > resolution of 220 x 176. I've been quite happy with the results -=20 > they're certainly very watchable. One thing puzzles me though. I've=20 > been aiming for a total size of 250 Mbs per film and I've been setting=20 > the video bitrate manually to an appropriate value, but I can't really=20 > see much difference between a film encoded at, say 98 kbit/s and 225=20 > kbit/s. Perhaps I just haven't got a good eye, or perhaps the size of=20 > the video makes it difficult to see any improvements. Should I see an=20 > improvement? If not then I'll reduce the bitrate and the resulting file=20 > size - is there anything I can do elsewhere to improve quality? >=20 > I'm encoding to Xvid4 at 25fps. >=20 > Any advice gratefully received! 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Mon, 2 Jan 2006 22:07:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02Ku3en027055; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 22:01:51 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k02Ktv69027024 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:55:59 +0100 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 43b9935c.03175; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 05:55:56 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Video Bitrate Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 05:37:35 JST In-Reply-To: <43B975E5.3090409@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.21 Message-ID: <43b9935c.03175@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >I've been trying to encode videos to watch on my smartphone - at a >resolution of 220 x 176. I've been quite happy with the results - >they're certainly very watchable. One thing puzzles me though. I've >been aiming for a total size of 250 Mbs per film and I've been setting >the video bitrate manually to an appropriate value, but I can't really >see much difference between a film encoded at, say 98 kbit/s and 225 >kbit/s. The first thing to check is whether the bitrate change is actually taking effect; for example, something may be forcing the bitrate to a minimum amount regardless of the value you use. For a video that is S seconds long, if the file size (in bytes) is B, then the bitrate is (B/S/125) kbit/s--note that this includes audio as well as video, so subtract out the audio bitrate if there is any audio in the file. If the result of that calculation is significantly different from the bitrate you specified when encoding, or if you encode at two different bitrates and get files of the same size, then your bitrate setting probably isn't taking effect. It's also possible that (as you suggest) there's just no noticeable difference between the bitrates at the resolution you're using. This is also somewhat dependent on the software/hardware; the developers may have cut corners, for example, so that you don't actually see all the benefits of extra video data. You could try viewing the video on your PC first to see if there's any difference there. Finally, make sure you're actually using the newly created file after each encoding operation. ;) It sounds obvious, but even the best of us occasionally forget to copy a file to a target directory and then wonder why none of the option changes are doing anything... --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Mon Jan 2 23:57:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAAD126D8B for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 23:57:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02MhSdA004105; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 23:50:38 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02MhMp4004085 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 23:43:25 +0100 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k02MhBp8000455 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:43:11 -0800 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id k02MhAsA000454 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:43:10 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:43:10 -0800 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode Message-ID: <20060102224309.GA449@t22> References: <20060101223811.GA31867@t22> <1136206069.27484.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060102170200.GA32653@t22> <1136233454.551.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1136233454.551.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 09:02 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > > > Okay, I admit to having used an oversimplification in my > > explanantion. In any case, the newer players (pioneer > > especially) are fast enough in all their hardware components > > that they can (and do) handle excessive bitrates via signal > > processing strategies (filtering and decimating) instead of > > discarding buffers like the older, slower players. > > AFAIK hardware players do not discard frames. Please note that the > "buffer" concept here is something completely virtual, it is called vbv > (virtual buffer verifier) for a reason. It denotes the amount of data > the player always completely has in it's sight. There is no relation to > hardware buffers, software buffer sizes whatsoever. If a vbv overrun or > underrun occurs, this simply means the player doesn't have enough data > at a certain point in time to successfully decode and display both audio > and video (for this given vbv "size"). In practise this means that the > player is able to handle buffer over/underruns up until a certain level > (depending on the implementation) and above the level, the player needs > to get more data before it can proceed, resulting in paused playback. I meant the hardware buffer in the player. Some players stall, some players drop the data, some players decimate and display. Most older players stall, I had one Toshiba that would never stall, but would flash wildly and recover... and my new Pioneer just smoothly plays through. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 00:25:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A590126D89 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:25:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02NFWDT006690; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:20:11 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from web33411.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33411.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.143]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k02NBhoP006346 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:11:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 19523 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Jan 2006 23:11:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Yct/I1uL/vaJcPkOiR4fCamlL6f6qulJ9oVgW6GjNTpz/qPblQrHPemrJayDU49x9xH1inyf0TbwDxjAZUpjioVO5VWJyt7Wl9qe3V5zjUU06HVIOpxK83TFW1pbcNzjRd/tVzmHfjTzj2+1yCqkyQOD1dNAkluJPTtMlnh0Ld0= ; Message-ID: <20060102231138.19521.qmail@web33411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.190.143.236] by web33411.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:11:38 PST Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:11:38 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Roberts To: transcode-users@exit1.org In-Reply-To: <20051228084212.14426SnBnGf275@wizard.castle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Beginner gets no audio X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi All, I hesitate to ask after my last dumb question, but I've drawn a blank, and am going cross-eyed trying to read the manpage. I'm trying to learn transcode, at least some basic operations, and thought I'd start with what I thought was trivial; read a DVD onto a local file. I ran: transcode -i /media/dvdreader -x dvd -y ffmpeg -F mpeg1video -o /tmp/video.mpg and I get a file /tmp/video.mpg (which doesn't seem to contain anything useful) and i get another file called something like video.mv1, which contains video of chapter 1, but no sound... Therein lies my problem--the lack of sound. I've tried a number of options that I thought might be related to picking an audio channel out of the dvd, but they all were either bad syntax (prompting a help message) or caused it to sit there hitting the dvd and hard drive indefinately, but never actually write anything useful to the file. What should I tell transcode so that it picks an audio track and copys it? TIA, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 02:44:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152DC126D89 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 02:44:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k031XKu9014714; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 02:37:45 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k031XHKk014698 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 02:33:18 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Etb31-0007sr-PD for transcode-users@exit1.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:33:12 +0100 Received: from cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([70.24.250.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:33:11 +0100 Received: from mlist4suntong by cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:33:11 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:32:56 -0500 Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:25:58 +0100, Erik Slagter wrote: >> - 2nd, 2 out of 4 of my friends can't play my transcoded film smoothly >> in their dvd player. They both describe the symptom as play-stop-play, >> ie. it slow/stop often, eg, every 1 or 2 minutes. My DVD player plays >> them fine, but will get jerky when after FF, -- the playing will >> slow/stop every 5 seconds. >> >> I exhausted the search on the web for the cure. Someone says it is due >> to the fact that max bit-rate is too high. I've applied the "-F 8,'-q 7 >> -b 6000 -S 4400'" option to transcode, but the symptom remains. > > If you're not an expert in this area, no, I'm really not. > you really should use the mpeg > export profile for dvd's. See the manual page. This's what I tried the first place. I.e., transcode -i film.avi --export_prof dvd -o output Are we talking about the same thing? The problem is, some of the results can't be played smoothly even on my own DVD player, which is somewhat more tolerant than my friends'. That's why I searched and lowered my max bitrate. Skimming through the archive, I know most people here are using transcode to encode from DVD to avi, very few people are like me, doing the inverse, from avi to DVD. I've been doing, transcode -i film.avi --export_prof dvd -o output and transcode -i film.avi --export_prof dvd -F 8,'-q 7 -b 6000 -S 4400' -o output but none was able to produce smooth playing on DVD players. How could I improve the situation? thanks Tong From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 03:09:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74006126D89 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 03:09:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k031xUYj016404; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 03:03:45 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from sasquatch.hezmatt.org (sasquatch.hezmatt.org [70.85.129.92]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k031xRFm016387 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 02:59:28 +0100 Received: from [10.6.66.6] (helo=hezmatt.org) by sasquatch.hezmatt.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1EtbSL-0003h2-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:59:21 +1100 Received: by hezmatt.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DDB8B4B543; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:57:36 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:57:36 +1100 From: Matthew Palmer To: transcode-users@exit1.org Message-ID: <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 08:32:56PM -0500, T wrote: > This's what I tried the first place. I.e., > > transcode -i film.avi --export_prof dvd -o output > > Are we talking about the same thing? The problem is, some of the results > can't be played smoothly even on my own DVD player, which is somewhat more > tolerant than my friends'. That's why I searched and lowered my max > bitrate. Have a look at my recent blog post, http://www.hezmatt.org/~mpalmer/blog/general/making_dvd_movies.html, in which I talk about just this sort of thing. - Matt From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 06:19:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F58C126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 06:19:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03590sS026136; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 06:13:40 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from r3.techmeridian.com (r3.techmeridian.com [69.20.13.76]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k0358q6W026118 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 06:08:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 31726 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2006 05:08:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; 3 Jan 2006 05:08:52 -0000 Received: from host-69-144-234-5.gln-mt.client.bresnan.net (host-69-144-234-5.gln-mt.client.bresnan.net [69.144.234.5]) by webmail.dmlnetworks.com (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:08:52 -0500 Message-ID: <1136264932.43ba06e479229@webmail.dmlnetworks.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:08:52 -0500 From: mlee@dmlnetworks.com To: transcode-users@exit1.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 69.144.234.5 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Can't trancode to mpeg4 using ffmpeg and ac3 options X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hello Everyone, I have a .vob file that I would like to transcode to mpeg4 format using ffmpeg, and I would also like to retain the surround sound (ac3) audio. Why I am trying to do this is because my MythTV system is filling up and I want to save some space but still want that great surround sound experience. However, when I run my transcode command I get the following error: "transcode -i ROBOTS_169.vob -x vob,ac3 -A -y ffmpeg,ac3 -F mpeg4 -nice +10 --encode_fields p -o robots-transcode.avi" The complete output of my command is below. I confirmed that I do have the ac3 export module in my /usr/lib/transcode directory. Any ideas is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Mike transcode -i ROBOTS_169.vob -A -y ffmpeg,ac3 -F mpeg4 -nice +10 --encode_fields p -o robots-transcode.avi transcode v1.0.2 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms [transcode] auto-probing source ROBOTS_169.vob (ok) [transcode] V: import format | MPEG-2 (V=vob|A=vob) [transcode] V: AV demux/sync | (2) initial MPEG sequence / enforce frame rate [transcode] V: import frame | 720x480 1.50:1 encoded @ 16:9 [transcode] V: bits/pixel | 0.217 [transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 23.976,1 [transcode] V: Y'CbCr | YV12/I420 [transcode] A: import format | 0x2000 AC3 [48000,16,2] 448 kbps [transcode] A: export format | 0x55 MPEG layer-3 [48000,16,2] 128 kbps [transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 23.976,1 [transcode] A: bytes per frame | 8008 (8008.000000) [transcode] A: adjustment | 0@1000 [transcode] V: IA32/AMD64 accel | sse2 (sse2 sse mmxext mmx asm C) tc_memcpy: using sse for memcpy [transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x480 [import_vob.so] v0.6.0 (2003-10-02) (video) MPEG-2 | (audio) MPEG/AC3/PCM | (subtitle) [export_ac3.so] v0.1 (2003-02-26) (video) null | (audio) ac3 [transcode] warning : (encoder.c) audio codec not supported by export module [transcode] warning : failed to init export modules [transcode] critical: plug-in initialization failed From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 06:55:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E07126D89 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 06:55:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k035kdDW027831; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 06:50:21 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k035kahP027816 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 06:46:37 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Etf07-00022l-Pc for transcode-users@exit1.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 06:46:27 +0100 Received: from cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([70.24.250.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 06:46:27 +0100 Received: from mlist4suntong by cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 06:46:27 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 00:46:12 -0500 Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:57:36 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 08:32:56PM -0500, T wrote: >> This's what I tried the first place. I.e., >> >> transcode -i film.avi --export_prof dvd -o output >> >> Are we talking about the same thing? The problem is, some of the results >> can't be played smoothly even on my own DVD player, which is somewhat >> more tolerant than my friends'. That's why I searched and lowered my max >> bitrate. > > Have a look at my recent blog post, > http://www.hezmatt.org/~mpalmer/blog/general/making_dvd_movies.html, in > which I talk about just this sort of thing. Thanks, Matt. several questions, - are you sure that "-e 44100,16,2" is necessary when you have specified "--export_prof dvd-pal"? - are you sure that the "mplex -f 9" is more suitable for DVD VOB files than "mplex -f 8"? - where did you talk about what I really concerned, ie, lowered the max bitrate so as to play smoothly on DVD player? thanks Tong From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 07:37:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B73F126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 07:37:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k036SBWj030881; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 07:32:13 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k036S61L030863 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 07:28:08 +0100 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 43ba1975.05130; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:28:05 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode for DVD Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:12:41 JST In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.21 Message-ID: <43ba1975.05130@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >This's what I tried the first place. I.e., > >transcode -i film.avi --export_prof dvd -o output > >Are we talking about the same thing? The problem is, some of the results >can't be played smoothly even on my own DVD player, which is somewhat more >tolerant than my friends'. That's why I searched and lowered my max >bitrate. For ffmpeg (which is what --export_prof dvd uses), that's about the only thing you can do, and it's the solution I use as well. However, --export_prof sets several other encoding parameters which are important for DVD encoding, so if you don't use it your DVD player may choke even if the video bitrate is within limits. For example, the DVD spec limits GOPs (Groups of Pictures) to 18 frames for NTSC and 15 frames for PAL; if you don't either use --export_prof or specify the GOP size explicitly (such as -w 3000,18), hardware DVD players may not play the video correctly. >Skimming through the archive, I know most people here are using transcode >to encode from DVD to avi, very few people are like me, doing the inverse, >from avi to DVD. There are a few of us. (: I personally use raw DV data rather than AVIs, but the principle is the same. The simple script I use for transcoding is stored in the wiki as: http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?dvtodvd.sh The script is designed specifically for processing raw DV data, but it should provide a good idea of what you need to do (and you could probably make it work for AVI as well by changing the -x parameter). You might also want to take a look at the more complex any2vob: http://mightylegends.zapto.org/dvd/any2vob/ --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 10:25:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D8B126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:25:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k039Gd8a016261; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:21:13 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from petasus.isw.intel.com (petasus.isw.intel.com [192.55.37.196]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k039GaUF016231 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:16:37 +0100 Received: from swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com [172.28.130.22]) by petasus.isw.intel.com (8.12.9-20030918-01/8.12.10/d: small-solo.mc, v 1.2 2004/09/17 18:05:04 root Exp $) with SMTP id k039NPt4005541 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:23:41 GMT Received: from swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.50]) by swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.7.47) with SMTP id M2006010309163013616 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 09:16:30 GMT Received: from swsmsx402.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.26]) by swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:16:30 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: RE: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:16:30 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Thread-Index: AcYN85S/t3fmeRk4TDKVO5iKWTOt8ACUG32A From: "Graefe, Ralf" To: "transcode Users Mailing List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2006 09:16:30.0434 (UTC) FILETIME=[61FCA420:01C61046] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id k039GaUF016231 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi, > > Hi, > > [...] > > It's obviously the part where it says: > > > > tcextract -x dv -i "capture_raw001.dv" -d 3| tcdecode -x dv > -y yv12 -d > > 3 -Q 5 > > > > and specifically the tcdecode part. If I just call this part on the > > command line I get the same error. > > I wander if it is a problem with libdv but Kino uses it also. > > I've seen other reports about a similar issue, but I still > don't have enough information to point out the problem, since > I'm not a DV user. > > It seems there is a problem with the libdv 0.104 and > tcdecode, but the few coredumps that I've seen shows up a > segfault *in* libdv. Maybe (just an idea) API of libdv was > changed and tcdecode no longer passes right parameters. > I played around some more and it seems I have problems with Kino generated DV files. There are some example files on the libdv homepage (http://libdv.sourceforge.net/) and when I try them there is no problem (the result doesn't look like exactly as I would like to but this is a different story :) ) With Kino I guess there comes the error from my original post into play (12/31): (decode_dv.c) header parsing failed (1) Has anybody got the steps 1.)grabbing from camera, 2.)transcoding to mpeg straight? If yes what grabber do you use? Thanks Ralf Graefe From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 10:45:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8B1126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:45:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k039cpLd019187; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:42:37 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from sasquatch.hezmatt.org (sasquatch.hezmatt.org [70.85.129.92]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k039ckiE019165 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:38:48 +0100 Received: from [10.6.66.6] (helo=hezmatt.org) by sasquatch.hezmatt.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Etico-0005kr-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:38:38 +1100 Received: by hezmatt.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 32D634BB05; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 20:36:53 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 20:36:53 +1100 From: Matthew Palmer To: transcode-users@exit1.org Message-ID: <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 12:46:12AM -0500, T wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:57:36 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 08:32:56PM -0500, T wrote: > >> This's what I tried the first place. I.e., > >> > >> transcode -i film.avi --export_prof dvd -o output > >> > >> Are we talking about the same thing? The problem is, some of the results > >> can't be played smoothly even on my own DVD player, which is somewhat > >> more tolerant than my friends'. That's why I searched and lowered my max > >> bitrate. > > > > Have a look at my recent blog post, > > http://www.hezmatt.org/~mpalmer/blog/general/making_dvd_movies.html, in > > which I talk about just this sort of thing. > > - are you sure that "-e 44100,16,2" is necessary when you have specified > "--export_prof dvd-pal"? I think it is necessary -- I tried a *lot* of different encoding options over time, and I think I ended up with the useful minimum set. Feel free to try it out without that option and let me know. > - are you sure that the "mplex -f 9" is more suitable for DVD VOB files > than "mplex -f 8"? I used -f 8 for my videos, and it worked well. Later reading suggested that -f 9 might be better, but I'd completed my work by then so I don't have any actual, useful experience to back me up. I probably should have been more explicit about that in my blog entry. > - where did you talk about what I really concerned, ie, lowered the max > bitrate so as to play smoothly on DVD player? Do you have any useful evidence that the problem is, in fact, that the bitrate is too high for your DVD player? All I saw was people guessing that might be the cause. One thing my blog post neglected to mention was that, with everything else identical, failing to use the -f option to mplex produced exactly the symptoms you're describing -- jerky, skippy playback on the hardware DVD player. Adding -f 8 solved that problem for me completely. - Matt (off to edit that blog entry) From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 10:58:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E632A126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:58:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k039oANW020484; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:54:02 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k039o513020461 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:50:07 +0100 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 43ba48cd.36612; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:50:05 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: RE: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:45:24 JST In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.21 Message-ID: <43ba48cd.36612@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >Has anybody got the steps 1.)grabbing from camera, 2.)transcoding to >mpeg straight? If yes what grabber do you use? http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?DVtoDVD --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 12:03:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8517C126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:03:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03AteJb028205; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:00:22 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from petasus.isw.intel.com (petasus.isw.intel.com [192.55.37.196]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03AtaBq028176 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:55:37 +0100 Received: from swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com [172.28.130.22]) by petasus.isw.intel.com (8.12.9-20030918-01/8.12.10/d: small-solo.mc, v 1.2 2004/09/17 18:05:04 root Exp $) with SMTP id k03B2ft0014603 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:02:41 GMT Received: from swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.50]) by swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.7.47) with SMTP id M2006010310553017275 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 10:55:30 GMT Received: from swsmsx402.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.26]) by swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:55:15 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: RE: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:55:15 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Thread-Index: AcYQTHCIidm3ZCFoSlWS9FLhRjrU1AAB1SyQ From: "Graefe, Ralf" To: "transcode Users Mailing List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2006 10:55:15.0895 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DD63C70:01C61054] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id k03AtaBq028176 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi, thanks, I had seen this and it was not working. But behold! I compiled the libdv, recompiled transcode and it worked! Before I had just installed the rpm coming with SuSE 10. So DON'T USE SUSE libdv RPM !!!!! (at least in SuSE 10) Ralf Graefe Senior Consultant Intel(r) Solution Services Telephone: +49 89 99142703 Mobile: +49 (0)172 8944523 E-mail: ralf.graefe@intel.com URL: www.intel.com/go/intelsolutionservices > -----Original Message----- > From: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org > [mailto:transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Church > Sent: Dienstag, 3. Januar 2006 10:45 > To: transcode-users@exit1.org > Subject: RE: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when > decoding DV format > > >Has anybody got the steps 1.)grabbing from camera, 2.)transcoding to > >mpeg straight? If yes what grabber do you use? > > http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?DVtoDVD > > --Andrew Church > achurch@achurch.org > http://achurch.org/ > From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 12:12:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36100126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:12:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03B5xCv029888; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:09:43 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from petasus.isw.intel.com (petasus.isw.intel.com [192.55.37.196]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03B5ufj029865 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:05:57 +0100 Received: from swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com [172.28.130.22]) by petasus.isw.intel.com (8.12.9-20030918-01/8.12.10/d: small-solo.mc, v 1.2 2004/09/17 18:05:04 root Exp $) with SMTP id k03BD2t0015767 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:13:02 GMT Received: from swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.50]) by swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.7.47) with SMTP id M2006010311055017738 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:05:50 GMT Received: from swsmsx402.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.26]) by swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:05:50 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: RE: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:05:49 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Thread-Index: AcYQTHCIidm3ZCFoSlWS9FLhRjrU1AACPCMg From: "Graefe, Ralf" To: "transcode Users Mailing List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2006 11:05:50.0211 (UTC) FILETIME=[A7EB2D30:01C61055] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id k03B5ufj029865 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org shit my last response was too quick, it had done something but I overlooked that it simply didn't load libdv because I had forgotten to call ldconfig. after that : same procedure so I guess it's back to the drawing board. :( Ralf Graefe Senior Consultant Intel(r) Solution Services Telephone: +49 89 99142703 Mobile: +49 (0)172 8944523 E-mail: ralf.graefe@intel.com URL: www.intel.com/go/intelsolutionservices > -----Original Message----- > From: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org > [mailto:transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Church > Sent: Dienstag, 3. Januar 2006 10:45 > To: transcode-users@exit1.org > Subject: RE: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when > decoding DV format > > >Has anybody got the steps 1.)grabbing from camera, 2.)transcoding to > >mpeg straight? If yes what grabber do you use? > > http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?DVtoDVD > > --Andrew Church > achurch@achurch.org > http://achurch.org/ > From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 12:23:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B833B126D89 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:23:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03BHPWJ031240; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:21:10 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k03BHLhA031224 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:17:23 +0100 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 43ba5d40.42437; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:17:20 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: RE: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:15:55 JST In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.21 Message-ID: <43ba5d40.42437@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >shit my last response was too quick, it had done something but I >overlooked that it simply didn't load libdv because I had forgotten to >call ldconfig. after that : same procedure >so I guess it's back to the drawing board. :( Have you tried --dv_yuy2_mode? IIRC there's a deficiency in libdv's interface such that it has no way of communicating colorspaces, and if you pass it the wrong type of data then it'll segfault. --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 12:30:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51DE126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:30:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03BOMJG032298; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:28:06 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from petasus.isw.intel.com (petasus.isw.intel.com [192.55.37.196]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03BOKlQ032281 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:24:21 +0100 Received: from swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com [172.28.130.22]) by petasus.isw.intel.com (8.12.9-20030918-01/8.12.10/d: small-solo.mc, v 1.2 2004/09/17 18:05:04 root Exp $) with SMTP id k03BUbtC017229 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:31:26 GMT Received: from swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.50]) by swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.7.47) with SMTP id M2006010311241418383 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:24:14 GMT Received: from swsmsx402.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.26]) by swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:24:15 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: RE: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:24:13 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Thread-Index: AcYQTHCIidm3ZCFoSlWS9FLhRjrU1AAB1SyQ From: "Graefe, Ralf" To: "transcode Users Mailing List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2006 11:24:15.0556 (UTC) FILETIME=[3AC17040:01C61058] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id k03BOKlQ032281 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi, >thanks, I had seen this and it was not working. But behold! I compiled the libdv, recompiled transcode and it worked! >Before I had just installed >the rpm coming with SuSE 10. >So DON'T USE SUSE libdv RPM !!!!! (at least in SuSE 10) please disregard this, its not the actual problem. I now traced it down to the '-y yuv420p' option given to tcdecode. If I use '--use_rgb' as parameter for transcode everything is fine (really this time :) ). Can anybody tell me how to fix this yuv issue? Thanks Ralf Graefe From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 12:59:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DE9126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:59:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03BqwS0003014; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:56:56 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from petasus.isw.intel.com (petasus.isw.intel.com [192.55.37.196]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03BqslY002990 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:52:56 +0100 Received: from swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com [172.28.130.22]) by petasus.isw.intel.com (8.12.9-20030918-01/8.12.10/d: small-solo.mc, v 1.2 2004/09/17 18:05:04 root Exp $) with SMTP id k03Bxxt0019480 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:00:00 GMT Received: from swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.50]) by swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.7.47) with SMTP id M2006010311524819276 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:52:48 GMT Received: from swsmsx402.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.26]) by swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:52:50 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: RE: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:52:47 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Thread-Index: AcYQWQL1dGe6vBgZS1uNp4b9AiSB9gAAwkQw From: "Graefe, Ralf" To: "transcode Users Mailing List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2006 11:52:50.0814 (UTC) FILETIME=[392109E0:01C6105C] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id k03BqslY002990 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org > Have you tried --dv_yuy2_mode? IIRC there's a > deficiency in libdv's interface such that it has no way of > communicating colorspaces, and if you pass it the wrong type > of data then it'll segfault. What command needs this parameter? Ist not in the transcode man page. Ralf Graefe Senior Consultant Intel(r) Solution Services Telephone: +49 89 99142703 Mobile: +49 (0)172 8944523 E-mail: ralf.graefe@intel.com URL: www.intel.com/go/intelsolutionservices From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 13:10:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B06126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:10:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03C3ZsA004105; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:07:47 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.198]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03C3WaU004089 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:03:33 +0100 Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id m3so854118uge for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 04:03:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aK18l5x1aBUkLLa2r2gmhvL2/X+T6SwRw3QsMLzHNxRn0r6kQ8XrXTA0rztM4FRletfVxGxnIIbTiMTxiqmqTKaXR17h8oVf37KN4serqqQxHiXCaGKq5KCF8F7clblvT9I1NfT1qXWsX2tZVeL2b35C6azQNe12VwaJVVIAdjk= Received: by 10.67.27.17 with SMTP id e17mr4836636ugj; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 04:03:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from azafuse.rokugan.lan ( [87.6.201.185]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k30sm8551216ugc.2006.01.03.04.03.30; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 04:03:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:03:26 +0100 From: Francesco Romani To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Message-ID: <20060103130326.4c6e7fb4@azafuse.rokugan.lan> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:52:47 -0000 "Graefe, Ralf" wrote: > > Have you tried --dv_yuy2_mode? IIRC there's a > > deficiency in libdv's interface such that it has no way of > > communicating colorspaces, and if you pass it the wrong type > > of data then it'll segfault. > > What command needs this parameter? transcode. Corresponding option for tcdecode is -Y. See `transcode -h' and `tcdecode -h' command output :) > Ist not in the transcode man page. I'll add ASAP. Best regards, -- Francesco Romani -- Ikitt 'people always complain, no matther what you do' IM contact: (drop me a note via email first, I have antispam default deny!) jabber://ikitt-at-jabber-dot-linux-dot-it icq://27-83-87-867 From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 13:13:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDC4126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:13:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03C85mt004710; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:11:42 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k03C6a54004459 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:06:38 +0100 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 43ba68cb.50714; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 21:06:35 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: RE: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 21:00:28 JST In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.21 Message-ID: <43ba68cb.50714@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >> Have you tried --dv_yuy2_mode? IIRC there's a >> deficiency in libdv's interface such that it has no way of >> communicating colorspaces, and if you pass it the wrong type >> of data then it'll segfault. > >What command needs this parameter? Ist not in the transcode man page. Yes it is: --dv_yuy2_mode decoded Digital Video (raw) YUV frame is in YUY2 (packet) format using libdv. Downsample frame to YV12. PAL users should compile libdv with --with-pal-yuv=YV12 to avoid this option [off] You are using the most recent version of transcode (1.0.2 or CVS), right? --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 13:31:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E3B126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:31:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03CMm9l006662; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:27:08 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.200]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03CMjDv006638 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:22:47 +0100 Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id m3so855227uge for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 04:22:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SJTLTTNTM6PvzVxm5phCMN7lM4JAWhWh+myxIEo0CBbx9DWf7x+0lxl7moOrs0iwC1jJ5ePRo/m2HhIv9bU4RaG244JOxxDwQ3Sd7nt0V74zWlYat0mfiT33ScO/1lp7djRTNh5/eqjJogCxumgNqom8cR9h4uWjHkF2bBTdhh8= Received: by 10.67.27.10 with SMTP id e10mr4835920ugj; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 04:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from azafuse.rokugan.lan ( [87.6.201.185]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a1sm8563272ugf.2006.01.03.04.22.44; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 04:22:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:22:42 +0100 From: Francesco Romani To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Message-ID: <20060103132242.62276b5b@azafuse.rokugan.lan> In-Reply-To: <43ba68cb.50714@msgid.achurch.org> References: <43ba68cb.50714@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 21:00:28 JST achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) wrote: > >What command needs this parameter? Ist not in the transcode man page. > Yes it is: Uhm, perhaps I should carefully double-check our stuff (what we have, want we _don't_ have...) *before* to write here ;) Best regards, -- Francesco Romani -- Ikitt 'people always complain, no matther what you do' IM contact: (drop me a note via email first, I have antispam default deny!) jabber://ikitt-at-jabber-dot-linux-dot-it icq://27-83-87-867 From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 13:49:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746F0126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:49:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03Cge9F009506; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:46:33 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from petasus.isw.intel.com (petasus.isw.intel.com [192.55.37.196]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03CgZtD009453 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:42:37 +0100 Received: from swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com [172.28.130.22]) by petasus.isw.intel.com (8.12.9-20030918-01/8.12.10/d: small-solo.mc, v 1.2 2004/09/17 18:05:04 root Exp $) with SMTP id k03CnJt2023526 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:49:41 GMT Received: from swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.50]) by swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.7.47) with SMTP id M2006010312422820678 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:42:28 GMT Received: from swsmsx402.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.26]) by swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:42:28 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: RE: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:42:27 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Thread-Index: AcYQXzc2kZTATkDeTAObzT3XDVwGxgAAi56A From: "Graefe, Ralf" To: "transcode Users Mailing List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2006 12:42:28.0723 (UTC) FILETIME=[2819E430:01C61063] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id k03CgZtD009453 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi, > >What command needs this parameter? Ist not in the transcode man page. > > Yes it is: > > --dv_yuy2_mode > decoded Digital Video (raw) YUV frame is in YUY2 > (packet) format > using libdv. Downsample frame to YV12. PAL users > should compile > libdv with --with-pal-yuv=YV12 to avoid this option [off] > > You are using the most recent version of transcode > (1.0.2 or CVS), right? yes you are right, I was scanning for dv_yuv instead of dv_yuy ;p and it worked :). I tried both the option --dv_yuy2_mode and compiling libdv with configure option --with-pal-yuv=YV12 as described. Both worked. so to summarize the problem: ==================================== Problem: ------- OS: Suse 10 running the following command led to a seg fault: transcode -i capture_raw001.dv -y ffmpeg --export_prof dvd-pal --export_asr 3 -o capture_out -D0 -b224 -N 0x2000 -s2 -m capture_out.ac3 -J modfps=clonetype3 --export_fps 25 I think the important part is that the input file is of type DV which requires libdv and that I wanted to encode for PAL. All the other parameters might vary. Error message: sh: line 1: 10923 Broken pipe tcextract -x dv -i "capture_raw001.dv" -d 3 10924 Segmentation fault | tcdecode -x dv -y yv12 -d 3 -Q 5 I tried it with both -y ffmpeg and -y mpeg2enc,mp2enc which seems to change the parameter for tcdecode being either -y yv12 or -y yuv420p but this led to the same error. Solution: ------- 1.)use parameter --dv_yuy2_mode in above command OR 2.) compile libdv using configure parameter --with-pal-yuv=YV12 ==================================== thanks the best Ralf Graefe Senior Consultant Intel(r) Solution Services Telephone: +49 89 99142703 Mobile: +49 (0)172 8944523 E-mail: ralf.graefe@intel.com URL: www.intel.com/go/intelsolutionservices From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 16:06:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35129126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:06:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03Ew0vl025947; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:02:46 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.203]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03Evs6I025927 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:57:56 +0100 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s18so1575369wxc for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 06:57:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MVWIflOYAtz8ymmGEhJCLMfMMTjICXlNH1ptHHoHxFuUf9NIw/dnkqOxqbp1hyXLSwIhcqKCEn6zCKeuVkhn0siwwO/fPEfDDZom87vLSBQhhYflB6PKGE9/6dPJpfjlvLX0jyxXp5DKFekH7UAdkIBEQr428tPuehvcUjVbf+A= Received: by 10.70.45.18 with SMTP id s18mr12905080wxs; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 06:57:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.57.7 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 06:57:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <473ca16a0601030657l50ce5e5bw59dbd4a94a77bdc8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:57:53 -0600 From: Kenny Gow To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Can't trancode to mpeg4 using ffmpeg and ac3 options In-Reply-To: <1136264932.43ba06e479229@webmail.dmlnetworks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1136264932.43ba06e479229@webmail.dmlnetworks.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id k03Evs6I025927 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On 1/2/06, mlee@dmlnetworks.com wrote: > > transcode -i ROBOTS_169.vob -A -y ffmpeg,ac3 -F mpeg4 -nice +10 --encode_fields > p -o robots-transcode.avi I was trying something similar recently and I remember some tip saying don't use "-y ffmpeg, ac3" but use "-y ffmpeg" for the video and add "-N 0x2000" for ac3 audio output. It seemed to work for me. --Kenny From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 16:34:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBD8126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:34:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03FQVoG029408; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:31:19 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.205]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03FQSwv029391 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:26:29 +0100 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s18so1579360wxc for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 07:26:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I5lwFXwd5WKiKIc3BQOQzaN5X38fCQ2Ug/fLxyDkMea8vdIWlFOsmtmJ6GCbtzIFEYLd5Qub5HliTrmLv/XT/IpcP5e8+N6+OhkGQlgnmxfwEnaqUAtnHRXl2gkHPGL4AfZILM5xhZqSA7EJ5kucCeOagy0x4MtdCDcstDFkySI= Received: by 10.70.79.4 with SMTP id c4mr12918613wxb; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 07:26:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.57.7 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 07:26:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <473ca16a0601030726u14ee57ber1306bc824248d3a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:26:26 -0600 From: Kenny Gow To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Beginner gets no audio In-Reply-To: <20060102231138.19521.qmail@web33411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051228084212.14426SnBnGf275@wizard.castle> <20060102231138.19521.qmail@web33411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id k03FQSwv029391 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On 1/2/06, Simon Roberts wrote: > > What should I tell transcode so that it picks an audio track and copys > it? > -a N where N is the number of the audio track you want From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 17:42:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6929126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:42:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03GXHJV004177; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:38:14 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03GXB0R004153 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:33:13 +0100 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k03GX5T0027678 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:33:05 -0800 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k03GX4vF027677 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:33:04 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:33:04 -0800 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD Message-ID: <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > > - are you sure that "-e 44100,16,2" is necessary when you have specified > > "--export_prof dvd-pal"? > > I think it is necessary -- I tried a *lot* of different encoding options > over time, and I think I ended up with the useful minimum set. Feel free to > try it out without that option and let me know. It is necessary. And NTSC dvd's requiring the corresponding option: -e 48000,16,2 From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 18:10:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A81126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:10:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03H3HWN007488; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:07:18 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03H3Dvi007471 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:03:14 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EtpYh-0000bT-MO for transcode-users@exit1.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:02:51 +0100 Received: from cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([70.24.250.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:02:51 +0100 Received: from mlist4suntong by cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:02:51 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:02:20 -0500 Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: <43ba1975.05130@msgid.achurch.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:12:41 +0000, Andrew Church wrote: >>This's what I tried the first place. I.e., >> >>transcode -i film.avi --export_prof dvd -o output >> >>Are we talking about the same thing? The problem is, some of the results >>can't be played smoothly even on my own DVD player, which is somewhat >>more tolerant than my friends'. That's why I searched and lowered my max >>bitrate. > > For ffmpeg (which is what --export_prof dvd uses), that's about the > only thing you can do, and it's the solution I use as well. hmm. I think "--export_prof dvd" will not automatically pick ffmpeg but mpeg2enc unless you specify that. > However, > --export_prof sets several other encoding parameters [...] Thanks for the info. Anyone knows what exactly the "--export_prof DVD" sets? I.e., its equivalent commandline switches, or all those that can be set on commandline if it is doing more than that? >>Skimming through the archive, I know most people here are using >>transcode to encode from DVD to avi, very few people are like me, doing >>the inverse, from avi to DVD. > > There are a few of us. (: I personally use raw DV data rather than > AVIs, but the principle is the same. The simple script I use for > transcoding is stored in the wiki as: > > http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?dvtodvd.sh Thanks. hmm... several comments regards the script: - I saw that you set "video-kbps" as mandatory parameter for the script. What value do you usually use to set it? (and what are the allowed ranges?) - I saw that you use ffmpeg as default. Just want to let you know that you forgot to use "--export_prof" if [ "$VCODEC" != ffmpeg ]. - You may want to use cat <&2 usage help EOF for your usage help, just to make it a bit easy for you (and slightly faster). that's all of my 2c. thanks Tong From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 18:16:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83AD7126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:16:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03H98wj008063; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:12:51 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from web33404.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33404.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.136]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k03H958S008042 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:09:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 40285 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Jan 2006 17:08:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2Lm/NpDAEEgafF/w3F3jIzYB/M5SIgq/gFf4bGxDSD8r7HgYzUL4uIkV2zI2lVx0mdDJW1mMoqUx3mKxZk74ScPQbaKNsWTUWO/D73Z97BoyCu8fsGQJLCKRlK/WubeUMQuBpdJa+W3P6Fryf6NjfwbgiguS5rB88iWiifYH5/0= ; Message-ID: <20060103170854.40283.qmail@web33404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.166.15.143] by web33404.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 09:08:54 PST Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:08:54 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Roberts Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Beginner gets no audio To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <473ca16a0601030726u14ee57ber1306bc824248d3a5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --- Kenny Gow wrote: > > What should I tell transcode so that it picks an audio track and > copys it? > -a N > > where N is the number of the audio track you want Hmm, that's what I thought, but whenever I do that, instead of taking about two minutes to copy some video but no audio, it takes about 10 minutes, creates an empty file called blah.m2v that contains no video at all, and creates a 2Kb file called blah which "file" tells me is an audio file, but it's way to small to be anything meaningful, and it doesn't play with anything I can think of to try on it. I've tried -a N for N=0,1,2,128,129 and get the same regardless. Perhaps I'm going about this wrong/asking the wrong question. What I want to do is three things (useful individually) 1) read video into my system from dvd (quickest way to test), DV camera (haven't worked out the firewire link/controls yet), or video input card (not yet bought) in some form that I can watch and/or manipulate. I'm starting with dvd as it seems like the route of least resistance 2) manipulate a video file. For example, reduce its resolution or chop it into shorter chunks, convert it into the right file format for editing software (nowhere near to even choosing this yet never mind starting to use it) 3) prepare video files for writing to a VCD or DVD with the expectation that they'll work on a commercial player, and preferably with menus and the nice stuff like that. So my first goal was simply to get stuff off a dvd in a useable form. Am I barking up the wrong tree, or is this reasonable? And if it's reasonable, I'm still stuck with this odd behavior or the -a option :( Is there perhaps a "getting started for Dummies" anywhere? Most of the docs (entirely reasonably) seem to assume I know lots about video formats, encoding standards, geometry etc. and I'm afraid I don't, though I'll probably have to find out about these things, I was hoping to make some progress before that happens. All the example commands I find seem complex, nothing that just converts common-format-A to common-format-B that I can find (history shows my search skills are questionable, is this just that I'm being blind again?) Thanks again, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 18:22:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6374126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:22:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03HFl4f008793; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:19:31 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03HFiSw008775 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:15:45 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EtpkY-0003u6-MP for transcode-users@exit1.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:15:06 +0100 Received: from cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([70.24.250.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:15:06 +0100 Received: from mlist4suntong by cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:15:06 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:15:01 -0500 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <43ba1975.05130@msgid.achurch.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:12:41 +0000, Andrew Church wrote: >>This's what I tried the first place. I.e., >> >>transcode -i film.avi --export_prof dvd -o output >> >>Are we talking about the same thing? The problem is, some of the results >>can't be played smoothly even on my own DVD player, which is somewhat >>more tolerant than my friends'. That's why I searched and lowered my max >>bitrate. > > For ffmpeg (which is what --export_prof dvd uses), that's about the > only thing you can do, and it's the solution I use as well. Andrew, did you pick ffmpeg for speed or quality? I saw in your script you spend a lot of time doing de-noise, so I guess quality is important for you. The reason that I'm asking is that I tried ffmpeg before, but found that, although fast, ffmpeg introduces noticeable artifacts. The quality is much worse than the source, especially when you do FF, everything will be blurred when FF. Maybe it is the way that I tried it. I use standalone ffmpeg commandline (with --target dvd), not transcode. And my ffmpeg is ffmpeg_20050427-0sarge0.1 under Debian stable. Tong From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 18:41:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E18126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:41:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03HYUhu010863; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:38:45 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03HYRnn010844 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:34:28 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Etq2V-00004z-9g for transcode-users@exit1.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:33:39 +0100 Received: from cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([70.24.250.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:33:39 +0100 Received: from mlist4suntong by cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:33:39 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:33:14 -0500 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <1136135481.25509.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1136204624.27484.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1136232982.551.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Re: Re: Demux mpeg with perfect A/V sync X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:16:22 +0100, Erik Slagter wrote: >> > BTW I appreciate it to talk to a person that has a real name. >> Tong > > As in Tong Sun (or the other way around) perhaps? ;-) > > Don't be afraid, you can use your real name here ;-) LOL, I'm been on several mlists with the same setting for quite a while, this is the first time that people tell me that they feel uncomfortable. Actually I choose T not to hide anything, as you have guessed my name correctly on the first try, but to be unique and to standout. Yes Tong Sun is my Chinese name. You know, interestingly, in China everybody has different names. People are proud if their name is unique and different. Very rare we will have people having same names. So, very rare do we need to ask "Jonh, which Jonh, we've got several here". I choose Tong first. However, the more mlists you are on, the longer you are on them, you will bump into people that have same name with you. So I changed it to T -- to be unique, so far no name collision yet. :-) So if you see "T" in other mlist, most probably, that is me. :-) Ok, now here is the secret that I want to confess, by choosing T I can spot my own post (viewing news via gmane) within a split of a second. :-) Tong From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 18:55:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A48126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:55:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03HnG0k012594; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:53:00 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03HnCeu012573 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:49:13 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EtqHL-0004AI-1B for transcode-users@exit1.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:48:59 +0100 Received: from cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([70.24.250.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:48:59 +0100 Received: from mlist4suntong by cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:48:59 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:48:40 -0500 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <1136135481.25509.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1136204624.27484.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1136232982.551.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Proposal: transcode: -y copy X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Proposal: ======== add "-y copy" option to transcode. Reason ====== I've got some VCD mpeg streams with weird PTS values. The -M option for transcode or tcdemux can solve them perfectly. My ultimate goal is to convert them to DVD format, since the video is already in DVD compliant format, I just need to demux and work on the audio. However, there is no way to demux them with tcdemux/transcode without re-encoding: On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:16:22 +0100, Erik Slagter wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 11:58 -0500, T wrote: >> >> No, actually they are ripped from standard VCDs, just the PTS values >> >> are weird. They played ok though, don't know how that could be... >> > >> > How did you rip? >> >> vcdxrip -v -p --no-ext-psd --no-command-comment --nosegments --nofiles >> -C /dev/$CDRD > > Hmm, I'd guess that vcdxrip does indeed do a literal copy of the disk's > streams. > > Maybe another weird VCD twist. Sorry I can't help you with that. By adding the "-y copy" option, it allows transcode to copy the payload frame as is (not even decode to raw), while still the A/V initially out of sync problem can be solved perfectly. So we will have another sharp edge with this swiss-army-knife kit. What do you think? Tong From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 19:05:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40771126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:05:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03HwxE5013528; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:02:56 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03HwsW8013513 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:58:55 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EtqQe-0006gP-SJ for transcode-users@exit1.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:58:37 +0100 Received: from cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([70.24.250.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:58:36 +0100 Received: from mlist4suntong by cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:58:36 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:58:18 -0500 Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Re: Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:33:04 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: >> > >> > - are you sure that "-e 44100,16,2" is necessary when you have >> > specified "--export_prof dvd-pal"? >> >> I think it is necessary -- I tried a *lot* of different encoding options >> over time, and I think I ended up with the useful minimum set. Feel >> free to try it out without that option and let me know. > > It is necessary. And NTSC dvd's requiring the corresponding option: > > -e 48000,16,2 Are you guys using ffmpeg? I didn't specify it, but: $ transcode -i "film.avi" --export_prof dvd -F 8,'-q 7 -b 6000 -S 4400' -o output [import_mp3.so] v0.1.4 (2003-08-04) (audio) MPEG [import_ffmpeg.so] v0.1.11 (2004-02-29) (video) FFmpegcvsb4753: MS MPEG4v1-3/MPEG4/MJPEG [export_mp2enc.so] v1.0.10 (2004-09-27) (audio) MPEG 1/2 [export_mpeg2enc.so] v1.1.10 (2003-10-30) (video) MPEG 1/2 [export_mpeg2enc.so] cmd=mpeg2enc -v 0 -I 0 -f 8 -F 1 -n n -a 2 -o "output.m2v" -q 7 -b 6000 -S 4400 [export_mp2enc.so] (56/4096) cmd=mp2enc -v 0 -r 48000 -b 128 -s -o "output.mpa" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ See .............................................^^^^ Seems transcode w/ --export_prof dvd set everything for me. confused... Tong From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 19:26:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07002126D85 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:26:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03IIFVb016120; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:22:06 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03IIDfr016103 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:18:14 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([82.46.8.18]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:19:11 +0000 Message-ID: <43BABFF4.2000205@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:18:28 +0000 From: Paul Hunnisett User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051002) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Video Bitrate References: <43B975E5.3090409@blueyonder.co.uk> <1136233525.551.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1136233525.551.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2006 18:19:11.0818 (UTC) FILETIME=[32158AA0:01C61092] X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter wrote: >On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 18:50 +0000, Paul Hunnisett wrote: > > >>I've been trying to encode videos to watch on my smartphone - at a >>resolution of 220 x 176. I've been quite happy with the results - >>they're certainly very watchable. One thing puzzles me though. I've >>been aiming for a total size of 250 Mbs per film and I've been setting >>the video bitrate manually to an appropriate value, but I can't really >>see much difference between a film encoded at, say 98 kbit/s and 225 >>kbit/s. Perhaps I just haven't got a good eye, or perhaps the size of >>the video makes it difficult to see any improvements. Should I see an >>improvement? If not then I'll reduce the bitrate and the resulting file >>size - is there anything I can do elsewhere to improve quality? >> >>I'm encoding to Xvid4 at 25fps. >> >>Any advice gratefully received! >> >> > >If you don't see the difference AND buffer (vbv) requirements for your >phone are still met, I'd say, choose the lower bitrate. > > I hadn't really considered buffers before, where can I configure that? From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 20:15:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8EC126D89 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 20:15:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03J6dh6021470; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 20:11:51 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.207]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03J6ad1021450 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 20:06:37 +0100 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s18so1611124wxc for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:06:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oXB0k0bL9p9QfEtE+oRgpMG6u64dAh4tdHxHvs59n7vYrSoUsTs7ABf7D59EuYVbP7a+V1Gws4TnOwjPZK6JJUpyxO7drcM0Qibe8JKznIS5mbDj2mKPHjxPGk7mANk7yCcvsfrx2pWvnWkxJJosUuI3USBG2pixqDb3xE+vymE= Received: by 10.70.79.4 with SMTP id c4mr13106687wxb; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:06:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.57.7 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:06:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <473ca16a0601031106k2b9a5b4aiea51d9d570f4e146@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:06:32 -0600 From: Kenny Gow To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Beginner gets no audio In-Reply-To: <20060103170854.40283.qmail@web33404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <473ca16a0601030726u14ee57ber1306bc824248d3a5@mail.gmail.com> <20060103170854.40283.qmail@web33404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id k03J6ad1021450 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org As a novice, I suggest you use dvd::rip, a GUI front-end for transcode, until you learn more. To just rip DVDs, there are many tools that can do it: dvd::rip, dvdbackup, vobcopy, lxdvdrip, mplayer, transcode/tccat... From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 21:19:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0495126D89 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:19:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03KCMH1028328; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:16:51 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k03KCFY8028304 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:12:17 +0100 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 43bada9c.46516; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 05:12:12 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 04:53:46 JST In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.21 Message-ID: <43bada9c.46516@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >> For ffmpeg (which is what --export_prof dvd uses), that's about the >> only thing you can do, and it's the solution I use as well. > >hmm. I think "--export_prof dvd" will not automatically pick ffmpeg but >mpeg2enc unless you specify that. Now that I look at it, mpeg2enc is indeed selected by default. This is weird, because mjpegtools isn't included by default while ffmpeg is. This should probably be changed. >> However, >> --export_prof sets several other encoding parameters [...] > >Thanks for the info. Anyone knows what exactly the "--export_prof DVD" >sets? I.e., its equivalent commandline switches, or all those that can be >set on commandline if it is doing more than that? I don't think there's a documented list anywhere, but you can look at the source (export/export_ffmpeg.c). For mpeg2enc, it only sets the encoding mode (the first digit in the mode string). >- I saw that you set "video-kbps" as mandatory parameter for the script. >What value do you usually use to set it? (and what are the allowed ranges?) I usually set it so that the video fills the disc. (: For DVD, the allowable range is between 1000 and 9800 kbps, but anything over 6000 is probably overkill. There's a somewhat more detailed description at http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?DVtoDVD (section 2b). >- I saw that you use ffmpeg as default. Just want to let you know that >you forgot to use "--export_prof" if [ "$VCODEC" != ffmpeg ]. That's because (as above) it doesn't do anything except "-F 8" for mpeg2enc, and in fact it looks like it overwrites any -F you give. >- You may want to use > >cat <&2 >usage help >EOF > >for your usage help, just to make it a bit easy for you (and slightly >faster). I'm sure there was a reason I did it the way I did, but I have no clue what that idea was... ;) --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 21:45:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780E0126D89 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:45:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03KbBF0031291; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:42:46 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k03Kb6jX031263 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:37:08 +0100 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 43bae071.46532; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 05:37:05 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 05:12:17 JST In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.21 Message-ID: <43bae071.46532@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >> For ffmpeg (which is what --export_prof dvd uses), that's about the >> only thing you can do, and it's the solution I use as well. > >Andrew, did you pick ffmpeg for speed or quality? I saw in your script you >spend a lot of time doing de-noise, so I guess quality is important for >you. > >The reason that I'm asking is that I tried ffmpeg before, but found that, >although fast, ffmpeg introduces noticeable artifacts. The quality is much >worse than the source, especially when you do FF, everything will be >blurred when FF. Are you using FFmpeg in 1-pass or 2-pass mode? In 2-pass mode, I've found that FFmpeg does even better than mpeg2enc at low to medium bitrates; it does leave in minor artifacts even at high bitrates, but mpeg2enc has a fatal flaw in that it tends to put "blotches" in the video occasionally; since discovering that I've avoided using it at all (which is why the script defaults to ffmpeg). I've written up a comparison at http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?FFmpeg_Vs._Mpeg2enc on the wiki; if you have counterexamples, I'd certainly be interested in seeing them. --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 22:01:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB66126D89 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 22:01:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03Kse07000470; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:58:30 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from r3.techmeridian.com (r3.techmeridian.com [69.20.13.76]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03KsZ5i000448 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:54:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 2974 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2006 20:54:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; 3 Jan 2006 20:54:34 -0000 Received: from host-69-144-234-5.gln-mt.client.bresnan.net (host-69-144-234-5.gln-mt.client.bresnan.net [69.144.234.5]) by webmail.dmlnetworks.com (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:54:34 -0500 Message-ID: <1136321674.43bae48ada820@webmail.dmlnetworks.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:54:34 -0500 From: mlee@dmlnetworks.com To: transcode-users@exit1.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 69.144.234.5 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Cc: Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Can't trancode to mpeg4 using ffmpeg and ac3 options X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Kenny, Thanks. You suggestions works great! Now another question if you don't mind, how do I use transcode to produce compatible mpeg4 files that Windows/Quicktime can play out of the box. Again, thanks. You saved me from pulling all of my hair out. Mike From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 22:18:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0974126D89 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 22:18:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03LBTdU002631; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 22:15:34 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from web33413.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33413.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.145]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k03LBQde002573 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 22:11:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 23481 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Jan 2006 21:11:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mG+rIjDiWPK0U6QtZgzjWHaRHmUt+rCKkOE0J/IAKBGbxSdFcWQdNxaw0FEYVeGRz1niaQJLJqyvvncl3se/2XmvmiOzS2TzvqNqW/bXMtknVKngv8r7yRubNQIBcxRak6d+t1UlJ7L3x7to8WTJ5XioFQIsGbBerPAGDNC+wZw= ; Message-ID: <20060103211120.23479.qmail@web33413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.166.15.143] by web33413.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 13:11:20 PST Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:11:20 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Roberts To: transcode-users@exit1.org In-Reply-To: <473ca16a0601031106k2b9a5b4aiea51d9d570f4e146@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Where to learn? Was: Beginner gets no audio X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --- Kenny Gow wrote: > As a novice, I suggest you use dvd::rip, a GUI front-end for > transcode, until you learn more. > > To just rip DVDs, there are many tools that can do it: dvd::rip, > dvdbackup, vobcopy, lxdvdrip, mplayer, transcode/tccat... I have, and have used successfully, vobcopy. But my goal is creating DVD/VCD from other things (DV camera in particular). I've only been trying to copy a DVD as an exercise in what I thought might be some basics :( So, any suggestions where I can read up about this stuff so I can begin to make moderately intelligent use of this tool? Books, websites? Incidentally, I did come across a configuration that did extract audio (not using the -a option though), but for some reason it sounded "bubbly" Clear in itself, but it had strange noises over the top of it, mostly associated with the louder passages. Anyway, again thanks, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 23:05:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69703126D89 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 23:05:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03LwVrl007246; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 23:02:25 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au (220-245-224-46.static.tpgi.com.au [220.245.224.46]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03LwR2Q007217 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 22:58:29 +0100 Received: from localhost (sponge [127.0.0.1]) by sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B9013779F for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:58:24 +1100 (EST) Received: from sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sponge [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03887-02 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:58:22 +1100 (EST) Received: from hezmatt.org (unknown [192.168.0.214]) by sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031D213771C for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:58:15 +1100 (EST) Received: by hezmatt.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8A37D4BB0F; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 07:49:59 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 07:49:59 +1100 From: Matthew Palmer To: transcode-users@exit1.org Message-ID: <20060103204959.GD26088@hezmatt.org> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by Solutions First Managed Firewall X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Re: Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 12:58:18PM -0500, T wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:33:04 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > > > Matthew Palmer wrote: > >> > > >> > - are you sure that "-e 44100,16,2" is necessary when you have > >> > specified "--export_prof dvd-pal"? > >> > >> I think it is necessary -- I tried a *lot* of different encoding options > >> over time, and I think I ended up with the useful minimum set. Feel > >> free to try it out without that option and let me know. > > > > It is necessary. And NTSC dvd's requiring the corresponding option: > > > > -e 48000,16,2 > > Are you guys using ffmpeg? > > I didn't specify it, but: [...] > Seems transcode w/ --export_prof dvd set everything for me. confused... The -e option is for the input stream, to specify the audio stream parameters. I needed that because I was decoding a stream that only mplayer could read, and transcode 1.0.2 doesn't have the ability to ask mplayer what the stream parameters are, and so they need to be specified manually. You're probably lucky enough that your input streams can be automatically detected and processed. - Matt From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 23:08:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D92D126D89 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 23:08:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03M2xee007921; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 23:06:37 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au (220-245-224-46.static.tpgi.com.au [220.245.224.46]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03LwRwl007214 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 22:58:29 +0100 Received: from localhost (sponge [127.0.0.1]) by sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F06137753 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:58:23 +1100 (EST) Received: from sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sponge [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12444-08 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:58:21 +1100 (EST) Received: from hezmatt.org (unknown [192.168.0.214]) by sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0298D137AD3 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:58:15 +1100 (EST) Received: by hezmatt.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 785A94BB00; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 07:47:51 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 07:47:51 +1100 From: Matthew Palmer To: transcode-users@exit1.org Message-ID: <20060103204751.GC26088@hezmatt.org> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by Solutions First Managed Firewall X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Re: Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 08:33:04AM -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > > > > - are you sure that "-e 44100,16,2" is necessary when you have specified > > > "--export_prof dvd-pal"? > > > > I think it is necessary -- I tried a *lot* of different encoding options > > over time, and I think I ended up with the useful minimum set. Feel free to > > try it out without that option and let me know. > > It is necessary. And NTSC dvd's requiring the corresponding option: > > -e 48000,16,2 Actually, you might be thinking about -E. Re-reading my blog entry, I now remember why -e was necessary -- because it's needed to tell transcode what the rate of the *incoming* stream is. So, it's not dependent on what you're outputting to, but rather on the parameters of the input stream. Thank $DEITY I wrote all that down in my blog, because I'd forgotten it already. - Matt (my brain is Google) From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Tue Jan 3 23:12:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72EE126D89 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 23:12:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03M6dGl008347; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 23:10:17 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from petasus.isw.intel.com (petasus.isw.intel.com [192.55.37.196]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03M2itv007898 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 23:02:45 +0100 Received: from swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com [172.28.130.22]) by petasus.isw.intel.com (8.12.9-20030918-01/8.12.10/d: small-solo.mc, v 1.2 2004/09/17 18:05:04 root Exp $) with SMTP id k03M9ot0028793 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 22:09:50 GMT Received: from swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.50]) by swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.7.47) with SMTP id M2006010322023801672 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:02:38 GMT Received: from swsmsx402.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.26]) by swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 22:02:38 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: RE: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 22:02:34 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [transcode-users] Segmentation fault when decoding DV format Thread-Index: AcYQWQL1dGe6vBgZS1uNp4b9AiSB9gAWBK7A From: "Graefe, Ralf" To: "transcode Users Mailing List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2006 22:02:38.0829 (UTC) FILETIME=[694911D0:01C610B1] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id k03M2itv007898 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi there, > Have you tried --dv_yuy2_mode? IIRC there's a > deficiency in libdv's interface such that it has no way of > communicating colorspaces, and if you pass it the wrong type > of data then it'll segfault. as I said before transcoding works now with the above setting but when replaying the resulting video like in kaffeine I get crappy color, almost black and white. When I use --use_rgb it's fine. any ideas? Thanks Ralf Graefe From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 00:32:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03735126D8F for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 00:32:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03NPWAW016188; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 00:29:58 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03NPQn4016173 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 00:25:29 +0100 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k03NPKTb030565 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:25:20 -0800 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k03NPJkW030564 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:25:19 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:25:19 -0800 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Re: Using transcode for DVD Message-ID: <20060103232519.GA28966@webserver> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> <20060103204959.GD26088@hezmatt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060103204959.GD26088@hezmatt.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 12:58:18PM -0500, T wrote: > > On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:33:04 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > > > > > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > >> > > > >> > - are you sure that "-e 44100,16,2" is necessary when you have > > >> > specified "--export_prof dvd-pal"? > > >> > > >> I think it is necessary -- I tried a *lot* of different encoding options > > >> over time, and I think I ended up with the useful minimum set. Feel > > >> free to try it out without that option and let me know. > > > > > > It is necessary. And NTSC dvd's requiring the corresponding option: > > > > > > -e 48000,16,2 > > > > Are you guys using ffmpeg? > > > > I didn't specify it, but: > > [...] > > > Seems transcode w/ --export_prof dvd set everything for me. confused... > > The -e option is for the input stream, to specify the audio stream > parameters. I needed that because I was decoding a stream that only mplayer > could read, and transcode 1.0.2 doesn't have the ability to ask mplayer what > the stream parameters are, and so they need to be specified manually. > You're probably lucky enough that your input streams can be automatically > detected and processed. Exactly why I say it is "required"... because it is right more often than not. Without the -e option specified explicitly, more things fail than when it is stated explicitly ;^) From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 02:19:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25EE126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 02:19:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k041CWvx024502; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 02:16:50 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from r3.techmeridian.com (r3.techmeridian.com [69.20.13.76]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k041CTWt024487 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 02:12:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 846 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2006 01:12:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; 4 Jan 2006 01:12:29 -0000 Received: from host-69-144-234-5.gln-mt.client.bresnan.net (host-69-144-234-5.gln-mt.client.bresnan.net [69.144.234.5]) by webmail.dmlnetworks.com (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 20:12:29 -0500 Message-ID: <1136337149.43bb20fd1beb2@webmail.dmlnetworks.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 20:12:29 -0500 From: mlee@dmlnetworks.com To: transcode-users@exit1.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 69.144.234.5 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] what ffmpeg mpeg4 options are compliant with Windows Media Player X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hello Everyone, I am trying to make the files that transcode makes playable in Windows Media Player, and other mpeg4 players. I read on the ffmpeg website the options you need to be compliant/compatible, but I don't know what to send to transcode. Below is the command that I am currently running. I can play it fine using xine but WMP and Quicktime don't want to play it: transcode -i ROBOTS_169.vob -x vob,ac3 -A -N 0x2000 -y ffmpeg -F mpeg4 -nice +10 --encode_fields p -o robots-transcode-ac3-audio.avi Below is the the link to ffmpeg's website for WMP compatibility. http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/compat.php As always, thanks in advance. Mike From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 02:41:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCC4126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 02:41:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k041ZTql025909; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 02:39:21 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (BISCAYNE-ONE-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.80]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k041ZPtO025894 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 02:35:27 +0100 Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id k041ZNAq006002; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 20:35:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mass-toolpike.mit.edu (MASS-TOOLPIKE.MIT.EDU [18.7.16.71]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as blout@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.1/8.12.4) with ESMTP id k041ZLQA001475 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 20:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from blout@localhost) by mass-toolpike.mit.edu (8.12.9) id k041ZLm8015768; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 20:35:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 20:35:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200601040135.k041ZLm8015768@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: Ben Blout In-reply-to: <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> (message from Phil Ehrens on Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:33:04 -0800) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:33:04 -0800 >From: Phil Ehrens >> > - are you sure that "-e 44100,16,2" is necessary when you have specified >> > "--export_prof dvd-pal"? >> >> I think it is necessary -- I tried a *lot* of different encoding options >> over time, and I think I ended up with the useful minimum set. Feel free to >> try it out without that option and let me know. > >It is necessary. And NTSC dvd's requiring the corresponding option: > > -e 48000,16,2 The few DVDs I have created have been without the -e option. Apparently I have been lucky - what is the failure mode of NOT specifying that option? -Ben From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 03:48:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA960126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 03:48:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k042fATQ030598; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 03:45:36 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from mail231.csoft.net (qmailr@resin.csoft.net [63.111.22.86]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k042f276030539 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 03:41:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 25095 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2006 02:43:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO puff.jakemsr.gom) (63.111.27.87) by mail231.csoft.net with SMTP; 4 Jan 2006 02:43:24 -0000 Received: (from jakemsr@jakemsr.com) by puff.jakemsr.gom (mini_sendmail/1.3.5 16nov2003); Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:40:49 PST (sender jakemsr@puff.jakemsr.gom) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:40:49 -0800 From: Jacob Meuser To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Where to learn? Was: Beginner gets no audio Message-ID: <20060104024049.GA26459@puff.jakemsr.gom> Mail-Followup-To: transcode Users Mailing List References: <473ca16a0601031106k2b9a5b4aiea51d9d570f4e146@mail.gmail.com> <20060103211120.23479.qmail@web33413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060103211120.23479.qmail@web33413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 01:11:20PM -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: > --- Kenny Gow wrote: > > > As a novice, I suggest you use dvd::rip, a GUI front-end for > > transcode, until you learn more. > > > > To just rip DVDs, there are many tools that can do it: dvd::rip, > > dvdbackup, vobcopy, lxdvdrip, mplayer, transcode/tccat... > > I have, and have used successfully, vobcopy. But my goal is creating > DVD/VCD from other things (DV camera in particular). I've only been > trying to copy a DVD as an exercise in what I thought might be some > basics :( your basic problem is that you assume transcode can output in mpeg container, which it cannot. it always helps to read documentation first ... http://www.transcoding.org/ -- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 03:51:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F00A126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 03:51:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k042kHrZ031103; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 03:49:54 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from sasquatch.hezmatt.org (sasquatch.hezmatt.org [70.85.129.92]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k042ggsn030827 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 03:42:43 +0100 Received: from [10.6.66.6] (helo=hezmatt.org) by sasquatch.hezmatt.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Etybk-0006Bo-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:42:36 +1100 Received: by hezmatt.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9DB054BAFD; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 13:40:44 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 13:40:44 +1100 From: Matt Palmer To: transcode-users@exit1.org Message-ID: <20060104024044.GG3111@hezmatt.org> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> <200601040135.k041ZLm8015768@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200601040135.k041ZLm8015768@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 08:35:21PM -0500, Ben Blout wrote: > >Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:33:04 -0800 > >From: Phil Ehrens > > >> > - are you sure that "-e 44100,16,2" is necessary when you have specified > >> > "--export_prof dvd-pal"? > >> > >> I think it is necessary -- I tried a *lot* of different encoding options > >> over time, and I think I ended up with the useful minimum set. Feel free to > >> try it out without that option and let me know. > > > >It is necessary. And NTSC dvd's requiring the corresponding option: > > > > -e 48000,16,2 > > The few DVDs I have created have been without the -e option. Apparently > I have been lucky - what is the failure mode of NOT specifying that > option? Your audio sounds weird, typically -- if you're lucky (and only the samplerate is out) it'll be fast or slow; if you're unlucky (and the bits/sample or # channels is out) you'll get audio snow. Again, you *only* need to specify -e if you're using an input plugin which is unable to report the correct metadata about the audio stream. AFAIK, that's the mplayer and af6 plugins in 1.0.2. - Matt -- How many Apple Newton users does it take to change a lightbulb? Foux. There to eat lemons, axe gravy soup. -- Seen on the 'net From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 03:55:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD49126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 03:55:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k042nuWi031428; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 03:53:34 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from sasquatch.hezmatt.org (sasquatch.hezmatt.org [70.85.129.92]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k042i6dG030894 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 03:44:07 +0100 Received: from [10.6.66.6] (helo=hezmatt.org) by sasquatch.hezmatt.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Etyd6-0006CI-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:44:00 +1100 Received: by hezmatt.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 62E6C4BAFD; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 13:42:09 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 13:42:09 +1100 From: Matt Palmer To: transcode-users@exit1.org Message-ID: <20060104024209.GH3111@hezmatt.org> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> <20060103204959.GD26088@hezmatt.org> <20060103232519.GA28966@webserver> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060103232519.GA28966@webserver> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 03:25:19PM -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 12:58:18PM -0500, T wrote: > > > On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:33:04 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > > > > > > > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > - are you sure that "-e 44100,16,2" is necessary when you have > > > >> > specified "--export_prof dvd-pal"? > > > >> > > > >> I think it is necessary -- I tried a *lot* of different encoding options > > > >> over time, and I think I ended up with the useful minimum set. Feel > > > >> free to try it out without that option and let me know. > > > > > > > > It is necessary. And NTSC dvd's requiring the corresponding option: > > > > > > > > -e 48000,16,2 > > > > > > Are you guys using ffmpeg? > > > > > > I didn't specify it, but: > > > > [...] > > > > > Seems transcode w/ --export_prof dvd set everything for me. confused... > > > > The -e option is for the input stream, to specify the audio stream > > parameters. I needed that because I was decoding a stream that only mplayer > > could read, and transcode 1.0.2 doesn't have the ability to ask mplayer what > > the stream parameters are, and so they need to be specified manually. > > You're probably lucky enough that your input streams can be automatically > > detected and processed. > > Exactly why I say it is "required"... because it is right more often > than not. Without the -e option specified explicitly, more things fail > than when it is stated explicitly ;^) That's a strange definition of "required". I'd say "needed in certain corner cases" would be closer to reality. - Matt -- "I'm tempted to try Gentoo, but then I learned that its installer is in Python, and, well, a base Python install on my system is something like fifty megabytes (for what? oh, right, we NEED four XML libraries, I forgot)." -- Dave Brown, ASR From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 04:23:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EBB126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 04:23:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k043H7fA001389; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 04:20:58 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k043H3i7001372 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 04:17:04 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Etz8u-0006ur-RS for transcode-users@exit1.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 04:16:53 +0100 Received: from cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([70.24.250.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 04:16:52 +0100 Received: from mlist4suntong by cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 04:16:52 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:16:30 -0500 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <43bae071.46532@msgid.achurch.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Re: Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 05:12:17 +0000, Andrew Church wrote: > I've written up a comparison at > http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?FFmpeg_Vs._Mpeg2enc on the > wiki; Oh, yeah, I saw that wiki, very helpful. I can't believe that I was talking to the wiki author. :-) > if you have counterexamples, I'd certainly be interested in seeing > them. Oh no. I'm far from able produce anything like your wiki to backup my claim. Just my observation, especially during scene changes... BTW, could you update the wiki to include how you got the clip images for that particular moment? thanks tong From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 04:37:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9299F126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 04:37:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k043VJ4T002772; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 04:34:53 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k043VFAV002755 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 04:31:17 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EtzMl-0000iR-1m for transcode-users@exit1.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 04:31:11 +0100 Received: from cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([70.24.250.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 04:31:11 +0100 Received: from mlist4suntong by cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 04:31:11 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: transcode-users@exit1.org From: T Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:30:56 -0500 Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe00112fbe4bba-cm000f9f7f1298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: transcoding avi to small-format dvd-ntsc: what went wrong? X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 17:16:31 -0500, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > I'm trying to encode a bunch of low-res divx/avi into 352x240 quarter-res > DVD format -- here's the (linux) command line to batch encode them all, > [...] > the sound is beautiful.. the video just won't play, not even scrambled, I > get audio with the video staying on the DVD menu screen. I can play all of > the files in mplayer, and they look beautiful for low-res, but the > generated dvd won't play video in xine or in any player. Hi, Gary: Are you able to spot the problem yet? It does seem to be the dvdauth's problem based on your description, but that's much more unlikely to be true. If you are still facing the same problem, I might have some options for you to try... > one last and partially related question: I had some success using the > preset --export_prof=dvd-ntsc, but that setting does not allow for reduced > frame resolution; when I tried combining the profile with an explicit -Z > 352x240 the profile seemed to be taking precidence, but when I took out > the profile specification, I had a problem: Where are the export profiles > defined? This is the question that I want to know too. Anybody has the answer? Gary, did you use -Z before or after --export_prof? IIRC, the order matters. Tong From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 08:21:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3900126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:21:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k047Dw29019825; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:18:43 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from scorpius.homelinux.org (213.219.173.91.adslpower.by.edpnet.be [213.219.173.91]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k047DrZm019809 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:13:54 +0100 Received: from marc by scorpius.homelinux.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Eu2qG-0006jg-7t for transcode-users@exit1.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:13:52 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:13:52 +0100 From: Marc Leeman To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD Message-ID: <20060104071352.GA1984@scorpius.homelinux.org> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> <200601040135.k041ZLm8015768@mass-toolpike.mit.edu> <20060104024044.GG3111@hezmatt.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060104024044.GG3111@hezmatt.org> X-Operating-System: Linux scorpius.homelinux.org 2.6.14 X-Religion: Church of Tux X-Registered-Linux-User: #138583 X-message-flag: Outlook? Viral infections & bugs for the foreseable future. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marc Leeman , transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't read the thread in detail. I have a small program that does the transcoding and while it used to be in perl, it is now C based. The following command transcodes most files I have: "transcode -i %s -x mplayer -y ffmpeg -w %u --export_fps 0,%u --export_pr= of dvd-%s --export_asr %u -o %s -m %s.ac3", file, enc->bitrate, info->frc, norm, enc->asr, file, file); The result of the entire program is a nice DVD iso (I haven't uploaded it to sf since I haven't had the time to finish the graphical frontend for some months. --=20 greetz, marc We can stick our heads between our legs and kiss our asses goodbye. It's a saying. Crichton - I, E.T. scorpius.homelinux.org 2.6.14 #1 PREEMPT Sat Oct 29 09:45:46 CEST 2005 GNU/= Linux --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDu3WwUQpj09NWLeERAvEBAJ93idK0WDnCYQxpVRzNZvaP9oKnkACbBQBl yvLiYE3vaZHxwESxXSO9dLg= =XCSX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 14:48:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A163126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:48:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04DUr8n025217; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:34:07 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04DUm7v025194 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:30:49 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237A51434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:30:48 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 994D2864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:30:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20060102224309.GA449@t22> References: <20060101223811.GA31867@t22> <1136206069.27484.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060102170200.GA32653@t22> <1136233454.551.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060102224309.GA449@t22> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-abYaVLSc/sz66GaGcpps" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:30:44 +0100 Message-Id: <1136381444.24032.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-abYaVLSc/sz66GaGcpps Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 14:43 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > I meant the hardware buffer in the player. Some players stall, some > players drop the data, some players decimate and display. Most older > players stall, I had one Toshiba that would never stall, but would > flash wildly and recover... and my new Pioneer just smoothly plays > through. My theory for the stalling of certain hardware players is that they keep exactly the amount of bytes of the dvd vbv in buffer/cache. When part of the bitstream is read that does not comply to the vbv specs, the decoder will need access to parts of the stream (on disk) in front of, or behind the part in the buffer/cache. So it starts reading another window from the disk and encounters exactly the same problem almost instantly. So the player is almost only reading from disk instead of decoding. 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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:01:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04Dlwdl027259; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:49:11 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04DlpkF027242 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:47:52 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E30F1434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:47:51 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id F011C864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:47:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Using transcode for DVD From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-r6IROa8O6HyLVidtSIx5" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:47:47 +0100 Message-Id: <1136382467.24032.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-r6IROa8O6HyLVidtSIx5 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 20:32 -0500, T wrote: > I've been doing,=20 >=20 > transcode -i film.avi --export_prof dvd -o output >=20 > and=20 >=20 > transcode -i film.avi --export_prof dvd -F 8,'-q 7 -b 6000 -S 4400' -o ou= tput >=20 > but none was able to produce smooth playing on DVD players.=20 >=20 > How could I improve the situation?=20 Try this: transcode -i film.avi -y ffmpeg,ffmpeg --export_prof dvd -o output I won't promise this will solve all of your problem, but it will use another encoder and other settings that may be more dvd-compliant. 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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:19:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EAHRu029455; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:11:42 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EACMS029432 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:10:14 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AB41434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:10:12 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 40F80864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:10:09 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-wiZkBPYGHDLHcnLHBxHK" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:10:09 +0100 Message-Id: <1136383809.24032.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-wiZkBPYGHDLHcnLHBxHK Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 08:33 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > >=20 > > > - are you sure that "-e 44100,16,2" is necessary when you have specif= ied > > > "--export_prof dvd-pal"?=20 > >=20 > > I think it is necessary -- I tried a *lot* of different encoding option= s > > over time, and I think I ended up with the useful minimum set. Feel fr= ee to > > try it out without that option and let me know. >=20 > It is necessary. And NTSC dvd's requiring the corresponding option: >=20 > -e 48000,16,2 Excuse me? -e specifies the IMPORT audio parameters. What kind of dvd you're making has nothing to do with -e. Besides that, both US and non-US dvd's (NTSC and not even the "related" fps thing has any relation) use an audio sample rate of 48 Khz, for both mp2 and ac3. 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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:22:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EF7xF030198; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:16:10 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EF3um030130 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:15:04 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038E01434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:15:03 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 341CF864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:14:59 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <43ba1975.05130@msgid.achurch.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-tVo3BfWinW59SHQG5tnJ" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:14:59 +0100 Message-Id: <1136384099.24032.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-tVo3BfWinW59SHQG5tnJ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 12:02 -0500, T wrote: > hmm. I think "--export_prof dvd" will not automatically pick ffmpeg but > mpeg2enc unless you specify that. Correct. This stems from the time that mpeg2enc was a better encoder than ffmpeg. > > However, > > --export_prof sets several other encoding parameters [...] >=20 > Thanks for the info. Anyone knows what exactly the "--export_prof DVD" > sets? I.e., its equivalent commandline switches, or all those that can be > set on commandline if it is doing more than that? Use the source Luke! ;-) Yes, all the parameters that --export_prof uses can be set (and overridden) using command line parameters and config file options. Some of them: vbv (buffer) size, minimal bitrate, maximum bitrate, max gop size, default interlacing style (this is set to progressive if you don't use --export_prof, definitely not what you want!), audio codec and parameters, use of B-frames. > - I saw that you set "video-kbps" as mandatory parameter for the script. > What value do you usually use to set it? (and what are the allowed ranges= ?) 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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:31:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EMu5j031111; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:24:06 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EMpcf031095 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:22:54 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260C21434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:22:51 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 8E9D3864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:22:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Beginner gets no audio From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20060103170854.40283.qmail@web33404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060103170854.40283.qmail@web33404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-CULyW+bdfF30T8987/Ga" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:22:47 +0100 Message-Id: <1136384567.24032.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-CULyW+bdfF30T8987/Ga Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 09:08 -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: >=20 > --- Kenny Gow wrote: >=20 > > > What should I tell transcode so that it picks an audio track and > > copys it? >=20 > > -a N > >=20 > > where N is the number of the audio track you want >=20 > Hmm, that's what I thought, but whenever I do that, instead of taking > about two minutes to copy some video but no audio, it takes about 10 > minutes, creates an empty file called blah.m2v that contains no video > at all, and creates a 2Kb file called blah which "file" tells me is an > audio file, but it's way to small to be anything meaningful, and it > doesn't play with anything I can think of to try on it. I've tried -a N > for N=3D0,1,2,128,129 and get the same regardless. I suspect your input stream is broken. Did you try the mplayer module, it sometimes can be much more forgiving. --=-CULyW+bdfF30T8987/Ga Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIILzCCAnIw ggHboAMCAQICAw/xBDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhh d3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVt YWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDUxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WhcNMDYxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WjBqMRAwDgYDVQQE EwdTbGFndGVyMRUwEwYDVQQqEwxFcmlrIE1hcnRpam4xHTAbBgNVBAMTFEVyaWsgTWFydGlqbiBT bGFndGVyMSAwHgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhFlcmlrQHNsYWd0ZXIubmFtZTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEF AAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAtYqGuTSGbsTHZPiKQnNmvpVaxVuBZS6rV5xuKD47J9hz8Vq3Xh4PpuGYNW5L vevp80oj6sYAhNuU380UNRqALFaer8MtG6fXpvBgq+MCxVQzMyYxAnopqWlZQIUQNQX9wZmI0gVv gY6vwcXRBXkMyrzm41dy4oFwh+PTj3U+xwcCAwEAAaMuMCwwHAYDVR0RBBUwE4ERZXJpa0BzbGFn dGVyLm5hbWUwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQCf5+l4khcSjUOL8WcuJ7Q1 eXhSPe0VJEsHSfVJCNFmfFZFiGZNwQRliOuGFxSy+uPb8ZVIZ3cBIen/K0k2hWS6pCiDm3xNdkFU mhWsibmyMoc91I0Re2ZWPmL6isxiyr56Qv7vNz2UHSinLJr/QtsvRv/RKFlcO1gm1wsCOPkyITCC AnIwggHboAMCAQICAw/xBDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMc VGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZy ZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDUxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WhcNMDYxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WjBqMRAwDgYD VQQEEwdTbGFndGVyMRUwEwYDVQQqEwxFcmlrIE1hcnRpam4xHTAbBgNVBAMTFEVyaWsgTWFydGlq biBTbGFndGVyMSAwHgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhFlcmlrQHNsYWd0ZXIubmFtZTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAtYqGuTSGbsTHZPiKQnNmvpVaxVuBZS6rV5xuKD47J9hz8Vq3Xh4PpuGY NW5Lvevp80oj6sYAhNuU380UNRqALFaer8MtG6fXpvBgq+MCxVQzMyYxAnopqWlZQIUQNQX9wZmI 0gVvgY6vwcXRBXkMyrzm41dy4oFwh+PTj3U+xwcCAwEAAaMuMCwwHAYDVR0RBBUwE4ERZXJpa0Bz bGFndGVyLm5hbWUwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQCf5+l4khcSjUOL8Wcu J7Q1eXhSPe0VJEsHSfVJCNFmfFZFiGZNwQRliOuGFxSy+uPb8ZVIZ3cBIen/K0k2hWS6pCiDm3xN dkFUmhWsibmyMoc91I0Re2ZWPmL6isxiyr56Qv7vNz2UHSinLJr/QtsvRv/RKFlcO1gm1wsCOPky ITCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQI EwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1 bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMT G1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJl ZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMzA3MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNV BAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNU aGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAw gYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV+065yplaHmjAdQRwnd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNa LIkVcI7dyfArhVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+RNiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUq VIUPSAR/p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEAAaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1Ud HwQ8MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwudGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWls Q0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxhYmVs Mi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEASIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/TCG4+DYf qi2fNi/A9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amcOY6MIE9lX5Xa 9/eH1sYITq726jTlEBpbNU1341YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggJmMIICYgIBATBpMGIxCzAJ BgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQD EyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIDD/EEMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgggFT MBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTA2MDEwNDE0MjI0N1ow IwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFKt0EbClDGjmsr8L0F4SrJyJZue/MHgGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDFrMGkwYjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNV BAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAgMP8QQwegYLKoZIhvcNAQkQ Agsxa6BpMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBM dGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIDD/EEMA0G CSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIGAgwEfgToD4XzX3E3ODwEVfRWOSPGrbF6GPJc4tl6YJHl6dW6nE+V1ARPK X1JNgYFqpU4alLmSipH4uNLgWfWdsV4LIOvQY7Nwi1Xg2YdR3i8i2MyIor8DOOoiaXKQCrc4XtVN +RjXUXHcSNhyb4KoaDvWsvlrI5MdBTyCS2RyeXgAAAAAAAA= --=-CULyW+bdfF30T8987/Ga-- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 15:33:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F16126D89 for ; 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micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-zTRmCRFq11oD3HFly8BV" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:25:43 +0100 Message-Id: <1136384743.24032.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-zTRmCRFq11oD3HFly8BV Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 12:15 -0500, T wrote: > The reason that I'm asking is that I tried ffmpeg before, but found that, > although fast, ffmpeg introduces noticeable artifacts. The quality is muc= h > worse than the source, especially when you do FF, everything will be > blurred when FF.=20 FF =3D fast forward? What do you expect? Anyway, you can only compare using exact same parameters, like bitrate, max bitrate, amount of b-frames, max gop size, etc. There is a large chance that ffmpeg encodes to a lower bitrate than mpeg2enc does, by default. > Maybe it is the way that I tried it. I use standalone ffmpeg commandline > (with --target dvd), not transcode. And my ffmpeg is > ffmpeg_20050427-0sarge0.1 under Debian stable.=20 You should always use ffmpeg from cvs (and yes, this means you will have to compile it yourself). 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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:45:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EdY5h000570; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:40:34 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EdVkA000553 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:39:32 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD971434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:39:30 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 6C5E4864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:39:27 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Proposal: transcode: -y copy From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <1136135481.25509.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1136204624.27484.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1136232982.551.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-9WBZRpPth2lJ0wQXaSEP" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:39:27 +0100 Message-Id: <1136385567.24032.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-9WBZRpPth2lJ0wQXaSEP Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 12:48 -0500, T wrote: > Proposal:=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > add "-y copy" option to transcode. >=20 >=20 > Reason > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > I've got some VCD mpeg streams with weird PTS values. The -M option for > transcode or tcdemux can solve them perfectly. My ultimate goal is to > convert them to DVD format, since the video is already in DVD compliant > format, I just need to demux and work on the audio. However, there is no > way to demux them with tcdemux/transcode without re-encoding: For the moment this doesn't make much sense imho, as long as transcode doesn't support much muxing support. I'd suggest demuxing your problematic stream with projectx, which is specialised in such streams and then applying mplex. This is really not a area for transcode (at the moment). 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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:45:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EeiS9000754; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:41:46 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EeemL000735 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:40:41 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5851434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:40:40 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 613F6864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:40:37 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Re: Using transcode for DVD From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-hki+i8xzdjCu1GHjRSUq" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:40:37 +0100 Message-Id: <1136385637.24032.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-hki+i8xzdjCu1GHjRSUq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 12:58 -0500, T wrote: > Are you guys using ffmpeg? >=20 > I didn't specify it, but: >=20 > $ transcode -i "film.avi" --export_prof dvd -F 8,'-q 7 -b 6000 -S 4400' -= o output=20 > [import_mp3.so] v0.1.4 (2003-08-04) (audio) MPEG > [import_ffmpeg.so] v0.1.11 (2004-02-29) (video) FFmpegcvsb4753: MS MPEG4= v1-3/MPEG4/MJPEG > [export_mp2enc.so] v1.0.10 (2004-09-27) (audio) MPEG 1/2 > [export_mpeg2enc.so] v1.1.10 (2003-10-30) (video) MPEG 1/2 >=20 > [export_mpeg2enc.so] cmd=3Dmpeg2enc -v 0 -I 0 -f 8 -F 1 -n n -a 2 -o "ou= tput.m2v" -q 7 -b 6000 -S 4400=20 > [export_mp2enc.so] (56/4096) cmd=3Dmp2enc -v 0 -r 48000 -b 128 -s -o "out= put.mpa"=20 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > See .............................................^^^^ >=20 > Seems transcode w/ --export_prof dvd set everything for me. confused... 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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:46:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EfoaT000989; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:42:45 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EfLC7000907 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:41:22 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7201434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:41:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id B979B864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:41:17 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Video Bitrate From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <43BABFF4.2000205@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <43B975E5.3090409@blueyonder.co.uk> <1136233525.551.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43BABFF4.2000205@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-lJCdcfTUJ6ui8SiPzedd" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:41:17 +0100 Message-Id: <1136385677.24032.70.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-lJCdcfTUJ6ui8SiPzedd Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 18:18 +0000, Paul Hunnisett wrote: > >If you don't see the difference AND buffer (vbv) requirements for your > >phone are still met, I'd say, choose the lower bitrate. > I hadn't really considered buffers before, where can I configure that? Don't know on xvid. 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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:47:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EacUo032734; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:38:16 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EaaRh032719 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:36:37 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD42B1434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:36:35 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 66055864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:36:32 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Re: Re: Demux mpeg with perfect A/V sync From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <1136135481.25509.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1136204624.27484.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1136232982.551.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-93W4hrVRMhdTGtgDHzn5" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:36:32 +0100 Message-Id: <1136385392.24032.63.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-93W4hrVRMhdTGtgDHzn5 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 12:33 -0500, T wrote: > > Don't be afraid, you can use your real name here ;-) > LOL, I'm been on several mlists with the same setting for quite a while, > this is the first time that people tell me that they feel uncomfortable. > Actually I choose T not to hide anything, as you have guessed my name > correctly on the first try, but to be unique and to standout.=20 Okay. There are people that really don't want to use their real name though. They're afraid of legal suits (not really applicable imho) and harassment (imho only applicable to chat contacts imho). Maybe I am strange, but I really prefer to talk to a real person, instead of a handle etc. > Yes Tong Sun is my Chinese name. You know, interestingly, in China > everybody has different names. People are proud if their name is unique > and different. Very rare we will have people having same names. So, very > rare do we need to ask "Jonh, which Jonh, we've got several here". Here (read: Netherlands) it's very much depends. Some families tend to use the same name over and over (which I think is very wrong). My name is afaik unique in our country, btw. It's not an issue of pride in my case, but purely practise. I think a name should uniquely identify a person. > I choose Tong first. However, the more mlists you are on, the longer you > are on them, you will bump into people that have same name with you. So I > changed it to T -- to be unique, so far no name collision yet. :-) So if > you see "T" in other mlist, most probably, that is me. :-) > Ok, now here is the secret that I want to confess, by choosing T I can > spot my own post (viewing news via gmane) within a split of a second. :-)= =20 There are other tricks to accomplish the same (which are more, imho, polite). You could use a middle name to be displayed with your real name. Also you could use an address extension (erik +extension@slagter.name). Anyway I am very interested in foreign languages, and I always wonder how you Chinese can learn to write English this flawlessly while I can't make head or tail of your symbols (and probably never will). BTW did you consider to use your name in Chinese symbols? 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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:50:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04Ehwcb001224; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:44:59 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04EhtBY001191 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:43:56 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B891434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:43:55 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 2ABF3864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:43:51 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Can't trancode to mpeg4 using ffmpeg and ac3 options From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <1136321674.43bae48ada820@webmail.dmlnetworks.com> References: <1136321674.43bae48ada820@webmail.dmlnetworks.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-CfELI0RphWtTyWd7IZ0u" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:43:50 +0100 Message-Id: <1136385831.24032.73.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-CfELI0RphWtTyWd7IZ0u Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 15:54 -0500, mlee@dmlnetworks.com wrote: > Thanks. You suggestions works great! Now another question if you d= on't > mind, how do I use transcode to produce compatible mpeg4 files that > Windows/Quicktime can play out of the box. > Again, thanks. You saved me from pulling all of my hair out. 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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:51:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04Eldht001671; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:48:39 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04Elag2001645 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:47:37 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38211434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:47:35 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 56589864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:47:32 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <43bada9c.46516@msgid.achurch.org> References: <43bada9c.46516@msgid.achurch.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-Rt7sSYNUjM/UbGQIq4az" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:47:32 +0100 Message-Id: <1136386052.24032.75.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-Rt7sSYNUjM/UbGQIq4az Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 04:53 +0000, Andrew Church wrote: > >hmm. I think "--export_prof dvd" will not automatically pick ffmpeg but > >mpeg2enc unless you specify that. >=20 > Now that I look at it, mpeg2enc is indeed selected by default. This > is weird, because mjpegtools isn't included by default while ffmpeg is. > This should probably be changed. 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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:54:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04Ep9xK002095; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:52:07 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04Ep6P0002078 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:51:07 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BDD1434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:51:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id 313A6864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:51:03 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Beginner gets no audio From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20060102231138.19521.qmail@web33411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060102231138.19521.qmail@web33411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-Epaginqh92bj6RPMPJXs" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:51:03 +0100 Message-Id: <1136386263.24032.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-Epaginqh92bj6RPMPJXs Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 15:11 -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: > and I get a file /tmp/video.mpg (which doesn't seem to contain anything > useful) and i get another file called something like video.mv1, which > contains video of chapter 1, but no sound... Therein lies my > problem--the lack of sound. Transcode generates only avi containers, no mpeg containers. If you specify mpeg1 (why?!) you'll get an mpeg1 elementary stream that needs to be multiplexed with the audio elementary stream using mplex. --=-Epaginqh92bj6RPMPJXs Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIILzCCAnIw ggHboAMCAQICAw/xBDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhh d3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVt YWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDUxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WhcNMDYxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WjBqMRAwDgYDVQQE EwdTbGFndGVyMRUwEwYDVQQqEwxFcmlrIE1hcnRpam4xHTAbBgNVBAMTFEVyaWsgTWFydGlqbiBT bGFndGVyMSAwHgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhFlcmlrQHNsYWd0ZXIubmFtZTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEF AAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAtYqGuTSGbsTHZPiKQnNmvpVaxVuBZS6rV5xuKD47J9hz8Vq3Xh4PpuGYNW5L vevp80oj6sYAhNuU380UNRqALFaer8MtG6fXpvBgq+MCxVQzMyYxAnopqWlZQIUQNQX9wZmI0gVv gY6vwcXRBXkMyrzm41dy4oFwh+PTj3U+xwcCAwEAAaMuMCwwHAYDVR0RBBUwE4ERZXJpa0BzbGFn dGVyLm5hbWUwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQCf5+l4khcSjUOL8WcuJ7Q1 eXhSPe0VJEsHSfVJCNFmfFZFiGZNwQRliOuGFxSy+uPb8ZVIZ3cBIen/K0k2hWS6pCiDm3xNdkFU mhWsibmyMoc91I0Re2ZWPmL6isxiyr56Qv7vNz2UHSinLJr/QtsvRv/RKFlcO1gm1wsCOPkyITCC AnIwggHboAMCAQICAw/xBDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMc VGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZy ZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDUxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WhcNMDYxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WjBqMRAwDgYD VQQEEwdTbGFndGVyMRUwEwYDVQQqEwxFcmlrIE1hcnRpam4xHTAbBgNVBAMTFEVyaWsgTWFydGlq biBTbGFndGVyMSAwHgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhFlcmlrQHNsYWd0ZXIubmFtZTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAtYqGuTSGbsTHZPiKQnNmvpVaxVuBZS6rV5xuKD47J9hz8Vq3Xh4PpuGY NW5Lvevp80oj6sYAhNuU380UNRqALFaer8MtG6fXpvBgq+MCxVQzMyYxAnopqWlZQIUQNQX9wZmI 0gVvgY6vwcXRBXkMyrzm41dy4oFwh+PTj3U+xwcCAwEAAaMuMCwwHAYDVR0RBBUwE4ERZXJpa0Bz bGFndGVyLm5hbWUwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQCf5+l4khcSjUOL8Wcu J7Q1eXhSPe0VJEsHSfVJCNFmfFZFiGZNwQRliOuGFxSy+uPb8ZVIZ3cBIen/K0k2hWS6pCiDm3xN dkFUmhWsibmyMoc91I0Re2ZWPmL6isxiyr56Qv7vNz2UHSinLJr/QtsvRv/RKFlcO1gm1wsCOPky ITCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQI EwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1 bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMT G1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJl ZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMzA3MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNV BAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNU aGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAw gYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV+065yplaHmjAdQRwnd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNa LIkVcI7dyfArhVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+RNiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUq VIUPSAR/p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEAAaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1Ud HwQ8MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwudGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWls Q0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxhYmVs Mi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEASIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/TCG4+DYf qi2fNi/A9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amcOY6MIE9lX5Xa 9/eH1sYITq726jTlEBpbNU1341YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggJmMIICYgIBATBpMGIxCzAJ BgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQD EyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIDD/EEMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgggFT MBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTA2MDEwNDE0NTEwMlow IwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFB8bNbNr7HhaP+XVlBbCeCXSqna5MHgGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDFrMGkwYjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNV BAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAgMP8QQwegYLKoZIhvcNAQkQ Agsxa6BpMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBM dGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIDD/EEMA0G CSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIGAelXC6WaU1Q44DmUxyq9viAECpd7V1Vvm53ATu8OArCoZc0PjUqwzylEG Ir7BrcbkQUQYRKOHQQ5Cv3F/iC+dt45wpFXwuHgRAZEs3g8+0xFn6hwbXqxyw1LQ9qCz6ppWzGBj C4yToHps6O7Zj+UbUGwkT9jiRo/A25hU9YU8L2EAAAAAAAA= --=-Epaginqh92bj6RPMPJXs-- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 15:56:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB15C126D89 for ; 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micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-i8dNqFKlh2SxSSYAGsAo" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:52:36 +0100 Message-Id: <1136386356.24032.83.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-i8dNqFKlh2SxSSYAGsAo Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 00:46 -0500, T wrote: > - are you sure that the "mplex -f 9" is more suitable for DVD VOB files > than "mplex -f 8"? This really wrong, because it will not insert dummy DVD navigation packs, which will make dvdauthor choke. Use -f 8 for DVD's, you may want to use -f 9 if you're making a stream not for a DVD, you may safe a few bytes, but won't hurt to have them, so -f 8 is always a safe choice. --=-i8dNqFKlh2SxSSYAGsAo Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIILzCCAnIw ggHboAMCAQICAw/xBDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhh d3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVt YWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDUxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WhcNMDYxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WjBqMRAwDgYDVQQE EwdTbGFndGVyMRUwEwYDVQQqEwxFcmlrIE1hcnRpam4xHTAbBgNVBAMTFEVyaWsgTWFydGlqbiBT bGFndGVyMSAwHgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhFlcmlrQHNsYWd0ZXIubmFtZTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEF AAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAtYqGuTSGbsTHZPiKQnNmvpVaxVuBZS6rV5xuKD47J9hz8Vq3Xh4PpuGYNW5L vevp80oj6sYAhNuU380UNRqALFaer8MtG6fXpvBgq+MCxVQzMyYxAnopqWlZQIUQNQX9wZmI0gVv gY6vwcXRBXkMyrzm41dy4oFwh+PTj3U+xwcCAwEAAaMuMCwwHAYDVR0RBBUwE4ERZXJpa0BzbGFn dGVyLm5hbWUwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQCf5+l4khcSjUOL8WcuJ7Q1 eXhSPe0VJEsHSfVJCNFmfFZFiGZNwQRliOuGFxSy+uPb8ZVIZ3cBIen/K0k2hWS6pCiDm3xNdkFU mhWsibmyMoc91I0Re2ZWPmL6isxiyr56Qv7vNz2UHSinLJr/QtsvRv/RKFlcO1gm1wsCOPkyITCC AnIwggHboAMCAQICAw/xBDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMc VGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZy ZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDUxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WhcNMDYxMTI5MTc0MTQ0WjBqMRAwDgYD VQQEEwdTbGFndGVyMRUwEwYDVQQqEwxFcmlrIE1hcnRpam4xHTAbBgNVBAMTFEVyaWsgTWFydGlq biBTbGFndGVyMSAwHgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhFlcmlrQHNsYWd0ZXIubmFtZTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAtYqGuTSGbsTHZPiKQnNmvpVaxVuBZS6rV5xuKD47J9hz8Vq3Xh4PpuGY NW5Lvevp80oj6sYAhNuU380UNRqALFaer8MtG6fXpvBgq+MCxVQzMyYxAnopqWlZQIUQNQX9wZmI 0gVvgY6vwcXRBXkMyrzm41dy4oFwh+PTj3U+xwcCAwEAAaMuMCwwHAYDVR0RBBUwE4ERZXJpa0Bz bGFndGVyLm5hbWUwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQCf5+l4khcSjUOL8Wcu J7Q1eXhSPe0VJEsHSfVJCNFmfFZFiGZNwQRliOuGFxSy+uPb8ZVIZ3cBIen/K0k2hWS6pCiDm3xN dkFUmhWsibmyMoc91I0Re2ZWPmL6isxiyr56Qv7vNz2UHSinLJr/QtsvRv/RKFlcO1gm1wsCOPky ITCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQI EwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1 bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMT G1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJl ZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMzA3MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNV BAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNU aGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAw gYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV+065yplaHmjAdQRwnd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNa LIkVcI7dyfArhVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+RNiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUq VIUPSAR/p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEAAaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1Ud HwQ8MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwudGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWls Q0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxhYmVs Mi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEASIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/TCG4+DYf qi2fNi/A9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amcOY6MIE9lX5Xa 9/eH1sYITq726jTlEBpbNU1341YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggJmMIICYgIBATBpMGIxCzAJ BgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQD EyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIDD/EEMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgggFT MBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTA2MDEwNDE0NTIzNlow IwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFLUJZqKrCe6tetrvB5/8gTb9SZTnMHgGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDFrMGkwYjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNV BAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAgMP8QQwegYLKoZIhvcNAQkQ Agsxa6BpMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBM dGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIDD/EEMA0G CSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIGAlcexYNmfO9dqfrxHny9HUv40pNzCvTk+8UM3P62okjlhacnv43SjsveX GDxpKBQaJyVGQg618pzavxuN2AlrnE8Nym6gIc/WNcgP7ty5/Vqnt5ghvCDhNwxndfY/5WZSpA7V epfI9np50F3uZ1nkW+lYOM8mUXeUMG50Q9g3OCIAAAAAAAA= --=-i8dNqFKlh2SxSSYAGsAo-- From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 17:17:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE750126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:17:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04G68St010041; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:10:32 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04G62S3009971 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:06:05 +0100 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k04G5u78003073 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:05:57 -0800 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k04G5udt003072 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:05:56 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:05:56 -0800 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD Message-ID: <20060104160556.GA2902@webserver> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> <1136383809.24032.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1136383809.24032.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 08:33 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > > > > > > - are you sure that "-e 44100,16,2" is necessary when you have specified > > > > "--export_prof dvd-pal"? > > > > > > I think it is necessary -- I tried a *lot* of different encoding options > > > over time, and I think I ended up with the useful minimum set. Feel free to > > > try it out without that option and let me know. > > > > It is necessary. And NTSC dvd's requiring the corresponding option: > > > > -e 48000,16,2 > > Excuse me? > > -e specifies the IMPORT audio parameters. What kind of dvd you're making > has nothing to do with -e. Besides that, both US and non-US dvd's (NTSC > and not even the "related" fps thing has any relation) use an audio > sample rate of 48 Khz, for both mp2 and ac3. There is no reason to use > 44.1 Khz ever, it's simply not allowed. Nevertheless, if you don't specify the IMPORT audio parameters in this way, you will sometimes get video output that will not sync with the audio after mplex'ing. It makes no sense to me, but it is a fact. I have no idea what particular broken characteristic of the input makes this so. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 17:51:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C352126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:51:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04Gcp2a012726; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:43:35 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from web33408.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33408.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.140]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k04Gckpm012708 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:38:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 26416 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jan 2006 16:38:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=I9C0jGcKsMjqr37BB97o6SK8v9i4O1buUkR7//GDzq2/oHjtcof20f/VkS0/aa6X7eQHLAg5hBxem2DWXOPez4nH4L/X3eXzsOCr6P1Lz0/O8A020/q4WKFN+i6ADGNcl8YRy2yJHaPtnxbLHpvEBal++a68CSpgu4AfKchMdE0= ; Message-ID: <20060104163841.26414.qmail@web33408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.166.15.143] by web33408.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:38:41 PST Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:38:41 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Roberts Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Beginner gets no audio To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <1136386263.24032.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --- Erik Slagter wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 15:11 -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: > > > and I get a file /tmp/video.mpg (which doesn't seem to contain > anything > > useful) and i get another file called something like video.mv1, > which > > contains video of chapter 1, but no sound... Therein lies my > > problem--the lack of sound. > > Transcode generates only avi containers, no mpeg containers. If you > specify mpeg1 (why?!) you'll get an mpeg1 elementary stream that > needs > to be multiplexed with the audio elementary stream using mplex. > Ah, thanks. That hints at making sense to me, but clearly for this to be less than 50% Greek to me, I need to do quite a bit of background reading. I'm vaguely aware of the container idea, but nothing more than that. I have no clue which formats are containers and which are actual media formats, so I guess there's a good starting point. Epheristo! :) Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 17:51:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D242E126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:51:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04GiddN013084; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:48:19 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from web33407.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33407.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.139]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k04GiaUp013063 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:44:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 38556 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jan 2006 16:44:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lbQpXd/rtWzfPCvv+7+gerfatd1uSRpqeFoEIK9nHF5hIJwsf6caYroag85SOqvgdZQinpakMt6GgbTxAOdjhqZSRkZTawi7LTto4uSe5/AkIHd8QQ2ymZAD/PrLIvrnvuqVtqF6CMiaAV/MR9jjYtCzknEzIyhUGclGeZfDLxE= ; Message-ID: <20060104164431.38554.qmail@web33407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.166.15.143] by web33407.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:44:31 PST Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:44:31 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Roberts Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Beginner gets no audio To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <1136384567.24032.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --- Erik Slagter wrote: > > > -a N > > > > > > where N is the number of the audio track you want > > > > Hmm, that's what I thought, but whenever I do that, instead of > taking > > about two minutes to copy some video but no audio, it takes about > 10 > > minutes, creates an empty file called blah.m2v that contains no > video > > at all, and creates a 2Kb file called blah which "file" tells me is > an > > audio file, but it's way to small to be anything meaningful, and it > > doesn't play with anything I can think of to try on it. I've tried > -a N > > for N=0,1,2,128,129 and get the same regardless. > > I suspect your input stream is broken. Did you try the mplayer > module, > it sometimes can be much more forgiving. I'll try that, and vobcopy, both of which are working well enough on another machine. They might get me to the actually important task of converting formats/resolutions/whatever. (Of course, it took me flippin' days to build those tools last time, and this machine is a different architecture, so I'll have to do it again!) Thanks again, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 19:49:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9981B126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:49:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04IfXnd025464; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:45:45 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04IfSlP025449 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:41:31 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BCB1434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:41:24 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id BEA4A864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:41:23 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20060104160556.GA2902@webserver> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> <1136383809.24032.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060104160556.GA2902@webserver> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-PbAug37DS1mc/6Q+9tNc" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:41:22 +0100 Message-Id: <1136400083.2561.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-PbAug37DS1mc/6Q+9tNc Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 08:05 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > > -e specifies the IMPORT audio parameters. What kind of dvd you're makin= g > > has nothing to do with -e. Besides that, both US and non-US dvd's (NTSC > > and not even the "related" fps thing has any relation) use an audio > > sample rate of 48 Khz, for both mp2 and ac3. There is no reason to use > > 44.1 Khz ever, it's simply not allowed. >=20 > Nevertheless, if you don't specify the IMPORT audio parameters in > this way, you will sometimes get video output that will not sync > with the audio after mplex'ing. It makes no sense to me, but it is > a fact. I have no idea what particular broken characteristic of the > input makes this so. 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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:52:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04Ik9rc025991; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:49:46 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04Ik7II025974 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:46:08 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5BD1434060 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:46:07 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id C11B5864001; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:46:06 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Beginner gets no audio From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20060104163841.26414.qmail@web33408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060104163841.26414.qmail@web33408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-CrDOse5EtiojLsl7sK5v" Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:46:06 +0100 Message-Id: <1136400366.2561.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-CrDOse5EtiojLsl7sK5v Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 08:38 -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: > > Transcode generates only avi containers, no mpeg containers. If you > > specify mpeg1 (why?!) you'll get an mpeg1 elementary stream that > > needs > > to be multiplexed with the audio elementary stream using mplex. > >=20 >=20 > Ah, thanks. That hints at making sense to me, but clearly for this to > be less than 50% Greek to me, I need to do quite a bit of background > reading. I'm vaguely aware of the container idea, but nothing more than > that. I have no clue which formats are containers and which are actual > media formats, so I guess there's a good starting point. Please read the transcode wiki: http://www.transcoding.org Hint: avi, mpeg program stream, mpeg transport stream, asf, mp4, quicktime, mov, matroska are containers mpeg1/2/4(/avc/x264), indeo, wmv, mjpeg are video codecs. 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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 20:17:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04JAFLY028653; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 20:14:06 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04JA76m028629 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 20:10:11 +0100 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k04J9xLN006070 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 11:10:00 -0800 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k04J9vdZ006069 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 11:09:57 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 11:09:57 -0800 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD Message-ID: <20060104190957.GA6005@webserver> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> <1136383809.24032.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060104160556.GA2902@webserver> <1136400083.2561.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1136400083.2561.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Erik Slagter wrote: > On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 08:05 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > > > -e specifies the IMPORT audio parameters. What kind of dvd you're making > > > has nothing to do with -e. Besides that, both US and non-US dvd's (NTSC > > > and not even the "related" fps thing has any relation) use an audio > > > sample rate of 48 Khz, for both mp2 and ac3. There is no reason to use > > > 44.1 Khz ever, it's simply not allowed. > > > > Nevertheless, if you don't specify the IMPORT audio parameters in > > this way, you will sometimes get video output that will not sync > > with the audio after mplex'ing. It makes no sense to me, but it is > > a fact. I have no idea what particular broken characteristic of the > > input makes this so. > > I could imagine that if the input audio is 44.1 Khz and it is processed > as being 48 Khz, or vice versa, a/v sync gets lost. Or if the input audio is not processed at all, but is going to be mplexed in from an existing file. I have yet to see any case where specifying the -e option in this way breaks anything, but without it I have seen plenty of trouble. I think it all has more to do with mplex than anything else. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 23:48:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337A2126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:48:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04MgNcu018900; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:44:23 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au (sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au [203.219.190.106]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04MgIB2018876 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:42:20 +0100 Received: from localhost (sponge [127.0.0.1]) by sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E67137AD3 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:42:15 +1100 (EST) Received: from sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sponge [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19007-10 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:42:12 +1100 (EST) Received: from hezmatt.org (unknown [192.168.0.214]) by sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D3C137B0D for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:41:59 +1100 (EST) Received: by hezmatt.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2D72F4BB05; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:04:36 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:04:36 +1100 From: Matthew Palmer To: transcode-users@exit1.org Message-ID: <20060104210436.GC32488@hezmatt.org> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> <1136383809.24032.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060104160556.GA2902@webserver> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060104160556.GA2902@webserver> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by Solutions First Managed Firewall X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 08:05:56AM -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > Erik Slagter wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 08:33 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > > > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > - are you sure that "-e 44100,16,2" is necessary when you have specified > > > > > "--export_prof dvd-pal"? > > > > > > > > I think it is necessary -- I tried a *lot* of different encoding options > > > > over time, and I think I ended up with the useful minimum set. Feel free to > > > > try it out without that option and let me know. > > > > > > It is necessary. And NTSC dvd's requiring the corresponding option: > > > > > > -e 48000,16,2 > > > > Excuse me? > > > > -e specifies the IMPORT audio parameters. What kind of dvd you're making > > has nothing to do with -e. Besides that, both US and non-US dvd's (NTSC > > and not even the "related" fps thing has any relation) use an audio > > sample rate of 48 Khz, for both mp2 and ac3. There is no reason to use > > 44.1 Khz ever, it's simply not allowed. > > Nevertheless, if you don't specify the IMPORT audio parameters in > this way, you will sometimes get video output that will not sync > with the audio after mplex'ing. It makes no sense to me, but it is > a fact. I have no idea what particular broken characteristic of the > input makes this so. I think you might be confusing two different effects here. I, too, had non-syncing A/V when I was making my DVD videos -- but using -f 8 to mplex solved all my problems. Now, admittedly, I always used -e to transcode, but because transcode couldn't detect my audio parameters. If I didn't specify -e, I got the wrong speed of audio -- everything sounded "chipmunky" (very funny for Abba background music, I can tell you ) and, obviously, the sound was totally out of sync, because one second of input audio samples was being consumed by the output encoder in less than one second. This wasn't because of some encoding artifact, it was just because transcode was handling my audio stream wrong because it didn't know any better. I can't see how -e would help you with A/V sync in the circumstance where transcode properly determines the input audio stream parameters -- because, as far as I know, *all* that -e does is override those few simple parameters to transcode. - Matt -- The way to a man's heart is through his stomach, that way you don't get your knife caught in his ribs... -- Peter da Silva From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Wed Jan 4 23:48:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B91A126D89 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:48:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04Mk2aN019254; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:46:06 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au (sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au [203.219.190.106]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04MgITw018875 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:42:20 +0100 Received: from localhost (sponge [127.0.0.1]) by sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021221379F7; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:42:14 +1100 (EST) Received: from sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sponge [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15030-05; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:42:11 +1100 (EST) Received: from hezmatt.org (unknown [192.168.0.214]) by sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B58137B0A; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:41:59 +1100 (EST) Received: by hezmatt.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 580074BAFD; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 07:59:16 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 07:59:16 +1100 From: Matthew Palmer To: transcode-users@exit1.org Message-ID: <20060104205915.GB32488@hezmatt.org> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <1136386356.24032.83.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1136386356.24032.83.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by Solutions First Managed Firewall X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 03:52:36PM +0100, Erik Slagter wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 00:46 -0500, T wrote: > > > - are you sure that the "mplex -f 9" is more suitable for DVD VOB files > > than "mplex -f 8"? > > This really wrong, because it will not insert dummy DVD navigation > packs, which will make dvdauthor choke. Use -f 8 for DVD's, you may want > to use -f 9 if you're making a stream not for a DVD, you may safe a few > bytes, but won't hurt to have them, so -f 8 is always a safe choice. That explanation makes a lot of sense. Thanks. - Matt (off to edit that blog entry again) From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Jan 5 01:21:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11141126D89 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 01:21:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k050FVIX028406; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 01:18:51 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from inferno.slug.org (inferno.slug.org [64.81.35.113]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k050FRjn028386 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 01:15:29 +0100 Received: from inferno.slug.org (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k050FLOo008075 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:15:21 -0800 Received: (from phil@localhost) by inferno.slug.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k050FKq3008074 for transcode-users@exit1.org; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:15:20 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:15:20 -0800 From: Phil Ehrens To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD Message-ID: <20060105001520.GA6917@webserver> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> <1136383809.24032.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060104160556.GA2902@webserver> <20060104210436.GC32488@hezmatt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060104210436.GC32488@hezmatt.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Matthew Palmer wrote: > > I can't see how -e would help you with A/V sync in the circumstance where > transcode properly determines the input audio stream parameters -- because, > as far as I know, *all* that -e does is override those few simple parameters > to transcode. The point I thought I was making, over and over again, was that where it may not help except in odd circumstances, that it will never hurt. From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Jan 5 02:10:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D27126D89 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 02:10:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k0514586031801; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 02:07:08 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from web33402.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33402.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.134]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k05140bd031773 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 02:04:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 25276 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jan 2006 01:03:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mYVgu/lMXeJEJFBoIdTmjqN5xeKhejyZGsD0JQYurenP6/QwXuC3VLvAoArmDSZSMd80o3MYQLv4a2YmLlCheXphqCgnbOGcEDc+i/Ff/zEK5jB0OP3gbbV2+hPGdDSJek5wAE1EWaD5tefp3Hy4z6fpdXweGOBlRlG6216fUtM= ; Message-ID: <20060105010355.25274.qmail@web33402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.166.15.143] by web33402.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:03:55 PST Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:03:55 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Roberts Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Where to learn? Was: Beginner gets no audio To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20060104024049.GA26459@puff.jakemsr.gom> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --- Jacob Meuser wrote: >> snip my drivelling. > your basic problem is that you assume transcode can output in mpeg > container, which it cannot. it always helps to read documentation > first ... > > http://www.transcoding.org/ Weeeelll, actually no. While not meaning to sound ungrateful or anything that's not the point. The point is that it helps to be able to make head or tail of the documentation first; that is, to have the prerequisite knowledge require to understand it--which was the thrust of my request, the website might indeed have all this information somewhere, but the organization, and most of the content that I've struggled with so far, leaves me feeling it's a classic example of Peter van der Linden's concept of "clear only if known." However, nobody owes me any help, and I'm truely appreciative of the help that has been offered so far, I just hoped that there might be something that would stoop to my level that I might use to help me get going. If I do finally manage to grasp it in the end, I'll try to write such a document myself. Meanwhile, unless anybody has is able to suggest anything better (still hoping--perhaps a suggestion as to which _part_ of the website to start at?), I'll just have to plough through this, and guess/fiddle, however many times it takes till it does start to make some sense. Anyway, many thanks to all who've made suggestions and tried to point me in the right direction. I expect I'll catch up sometime, it's clear, however that it'll be a lot more painful than I'd hoped. Cheers, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Jan 5 05:46:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB29126D89 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 05:46:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k054drHA016904; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 05:43:26 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from web33402.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33402.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.134]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k054dnD1016888 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 05:39:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 2044 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jan 2006 04:39:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=24OTdanjL29/OvqDAF+PVC6yl7sZCz+9H5Hms7oWZC91dQdBtb5vtH2ejWxw0qn80VeMuXbSH1v9BFKOprXj/Xa2vHsuaj/jni/KZBvEn7EVUJCFmktRdXYsSJB2t/twYBR+qzr6Nab/PzGd5zqcMqPbhw3H0cMRQN3WmuKECnA= ; Message-ID: <20060105043944.2042.qmail@web33402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.166.15.143] by web33402.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:39:44 PST Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 20:39:44 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Roberts Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Beginner gets no audio To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <1136400366.2561.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi Erik, thanks for the hints. Cheers, Simon --- Erik Slagter wrote: > Hint: avi, mpeg program stream, mpeg transport stream, asf, mp4, > quicktime, mov, matroska are containers > mpeg1/2/4(/avc/x264), indeo, wmv, mjpeg are video codecs. > > Also hint: what people usually call "avi" is actually an avi file > with > (ms)mpeg4 + mp3 in it, but it does not need to be. > "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Jan 5 10:19:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D971126D89 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:19:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k059CecB008987; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:15:02 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from petasus.isw.intel.com (petasus.isw.intel.com [192.55.37.196]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k059CaZC008969 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:12:37 +0100 Received: from swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com [172.28.130.22]) by petasus.isw.intel.com (8.12.9-20030918-01/8.12.10/d: small-solo.mc, v 1.2 2004/09/17 18:05:04 root Exp $) with SMTP id k059JgRX007554 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:19:43 GMT Received: from swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.50]) by swsmsxvs01.isw.intel.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.7.47) with SMTP id M2006010509122903084 for ; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:12:29 GMT Received: from swsmsx402.ger.corp.intel.com ([172.28.130.26]) by swsmsx331.ger.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:11:56 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:11:53 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: interlacing basics Thread-Index: AcYNYMV0G1wXc0rORQu/7FCWcBVTQwEdisZw From: "Graefe, Ralf" To: "transcode Users Mailing List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2006 09:11:56.0379 (UTC) FILETIME=[1376AAB0:01C611D8] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by fries.zyn.de id k059CaZC008969 X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES Subject: [transcode-users] interlacing basics X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Hi there, I would like to get a basic understanding about interlacing. Especially I have the following questions. 1.) Is it correct that the comb effect in fast motion is only visibly on PC screen and not on TV ? Why? 2.) When I create a DVD that I only intend to use with TV I would not need to de-interlace with transcode? 3.) Does it hurt to de-interlace for videos intended to be played on TV? 4.) When I watch a normal movie DVD on PC I don't notice the comb effect (or at least not very much) but after ripping and transcoding the VOB into something else like AVI I see it very strongly, why? Thanks From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Jan 5 10:52:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B94A126D89 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:52:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k059nYql013032; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:49:48 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k059nTsD013007 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:49:31 +0100 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 43bceba7.60014; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:49:27 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] interlacing basics Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:35:51 JST In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.21 Message-ID: <43bceba7.60014@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >I would like to get a basic understanding about interlacing. Especially >I have the following questions. There's a fairly good description (written by yours truly, so IMHO ;) ) at http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?Interlacing that covers most of these points; see it for more details. >1.) Is it correct that the comb effect in fast motion is only visibly on >PC screen and not on TV ? Why? Yes, that's correct; CRT-style TVs are interlaced, and newer LCD or plasma TVs have hardware that filters out the "comb" effect (essentially deinterlacing the video on the fly). >2.) When I create a DVD that I only intend to use with TV I would not >need to de-interlace with transcode? That's correct. Use the --encode_fields option to transcode to indicate that the source video is interlaced, and the output video will be interlaced as well. >3.) Does it hurt to de-interlace for videos intended to be played on TV? Absolutely yes. By deinterlacing, you lose half of the original video data, which can make movement look visibly jerkier and still images look blurrier. >4.) When I watch a normal movie DVD on PC I don't notice the comb effect >(or at least not very much) but after ripping and transcoding the VOB >into something else like AVI I see it very strongly, why? Assuming you're talking about commercial movies, such movies are originally recorded at 24 fps (frames per second) in progressive (non-interlaced) mode. In PAL countries, the video and audio are sped up slightly to match the 25-fps TV standard; in this case, there's no need to modify the video data, and it shows up on both TV and PC in its original progressive form. In NTSC countries, a process called "telecining" is used to convert the movie to the 29.97fps TV standard, which results in some frames being interlaced, but PC players are generally smart enough to reverse this. However, when you re-encode the video to another format, the video data is modified and the telecining process can no longer be detected, so you occasionally see interlaced frames show up on your PC. --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Jan 5 11:04:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429A5126D89 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:04:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k05A1B8s014396; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:01:22 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from viefep16-int.chello.at (viefep16-int.chello.at [213.46.255.17]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k05A17IG014370 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:01:08 +0100 Received: from lazy.shacknet.nu ([213.47.196.156]) by viefep16-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20060105100101.IRSZ24236.viefep16-int.chello.at@lazy.shacknet.nu> for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:01:01 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by lazy.shacknet.nu with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1EuRvo-0006nm-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:01:16 +0100 Message-ID: <43BCEE6C.8030300@myzel.net> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:01:16 +0100 From: Peter Chiocchetti User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: transcode Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [transcode-users] interlacing basics References: <43bceba7.60014@msgid.achurch.org> In-Reply-To: <43bceba7.60014@msgid.achurch.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Andrew Church schrieb: >> 1.) Is it correct that the comb effect in fast motion is only visibly on >> PC screen and not on TV ? Why? > > Yes, that's correct; CRT-style TVs are interlaced, and newer LCD or > plasma TVs have hardware that filters out the "comb" effect (essentially > deinterlacing the video on the fly). Why does interlacing not result in half the brightness? I sometimes read, a tv monitors phosphor coating is slower than a computers, but then, why dont I see both fields at the same time? peter PS: another example of fast moving scenes might be sports - whats a house party? dancing or drunkards at an improvised bar :) From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Jan 5 11:20:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86744126D89 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:20:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k05AH5ww016177; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:17:35 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from achurch.org (p10218-ipbffx02hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp [60.39.233.218]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k05AH19D016153 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:17:03 +0100 Received: by achurch.org (wmail 0.9.57) id 43bcf21c.60044; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 19:17:00 JST From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church) To: transcode-users@exit1.org Subject: Re: [transcode-users] interlacing basics Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 19:12:17 JST In-Reply-To: <43BCEE6C.8030300@myzel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Mailer: MMail v5.21 Message-ID: <43bcf21c.60044@msgid.achurch.org> X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org >Why does interlacing not result in half the brightness? That's sort of like asking "why does only half a liter of water fit in this half-liter bottle?" ;) Interlaced TV sets are designed to produce the "proper" brightness given a certain input video. --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/ From transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Thu Jan 5 12:07:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: itdp@fh-biergarten.de Delivered-To: itdp@localhost Received: from fries.zyn.de (fries.zyn.de [213.239.207.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kliche.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A24126D89 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:07:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k05B4NEB021585; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:04:39 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k05B4KOM021565 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:04:21 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF7F1434060 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:04:18 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id DCDF4864001; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:04:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20060104190957.GA6005@webserver> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> <1136383809.24032.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060104160556.GA2902@webserver> <1136400083.2561.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060104190957.GA6005@webserver> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-hj0Tru9EJFad2DPMsFqs" Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:04:14 +0100 Message-Id: <1136459054.2561.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-hj0Tru9EJFad2DPMsFqs Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 11:09 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > Erik Slagter wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 08:05 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > > > > -e specifies the IMPORT audio parameters. What kind of dvd you're m= aking > > > > has nothing to do with -e. Besides that, both US and non-US dvd's (= NTSC > > > > and not even the "related" fps thing has any relation) use an audio > > > > sample rate of 48 Khz, for both mp2 and ac3. There is no reason to = use > > > > 44.1 Khz ever, it's simply not allowed. > > >=20 > > > Nevertheless, if you don't specify the IMPORT audio parameters in > > > this way, you will sometimes get video output that will not sync > > > with the audio after mplex'ing. It makes no sense to me, but it is > > > a fact. I have no idea what particular broken characteristic of the > > > input makes this so. > >=20 > > I could imagine that if the input audio is 44.1 Khz and it is processed > > as being 48 Khz, or vice versa, a/v sync gets lost. >=20 > Or if the input audio is not processed at all, but is going to be > mplexed in from an existing file. I have yet to see any case where > specifying the -e option in this way breaks anything, but without it > I have seen plenty of trouble. I think it all has more to do with > mplex than anything else. 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Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:08:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from fries.zyn.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k05B5txB021828; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:05:59 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on fries.zyn.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=JR_PGP_MIME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from artemis.slagter.name (erik-slagter.demon.nl [83.161.107.130]) by fries.zyn.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k05B5qr9021812 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:05:53 +0100 Received: from skylla.slagter.name (skylla.slagter.name [172.31.4.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "skylla.slagter.name", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by artemis.slagter.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048BA1434060 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:05:52 +0100 (CET) Received: by skylla.slagter.name (Postfix, from userid 100) id BDDB4864001; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:05:48 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [transcode-users] Re: Using transcode for DVD From: Erik Slagter To: transcode Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20060105001520.GA6917@webserver> References: <1136204758.27484.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060103015736.GD29329@hezmatt.org> <20060103093653.GA11389@hezmatt.org> <20060103163304.GA27651@webserver> <1136383809.24032.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060104160556.GA2902@webserver> <20060104210436.GC32488@hezmatt.org> <20060105001520.GA6917@webserver> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-sR/iGEMoxEQJtRQOGiKk" Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:05:48 +0100 Message-Id: <1136459148.2561.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) X-Mail-Checks: sa wwmf block (fries) X-WWMF-Status: 2.5.20051228.2!tsvurl@fries X-Mail-Blocker-Flag: YES X-BeenThere: transcode-users@exit1.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: transcode Users Mailing List List-Id: transcode Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org Errors-To: transcode-users-bounces@exit1.org --=-sR/iGEMoxEQJtRQOGiKk Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 16:15 -0800, Phil Ehrens wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > >=20 > > I can't see how -e would help you with A/V sync in the circumstance whe= re > > transcode properly determines the input audio stream parameters -- beca= use, > > as far as I know, *all* that -e does is override those few simple param= eters > > to transcode. >=20 > The point I thought I was making, over and over again, > was that where it may not help except in odd circumstances, > that it will never hurt. 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